I'm getting reports that Madeleine is alive.

[Robittybob1]

How big is  awhite tailed spider...how often are poeple bitten by the spider. I simply dont find much of what sadie says credible

An adult white-tailed spiders is about 1 inch long, but they crawl over you as you sleep.  It is not a nice feeling for if you try and kill it, it will bite you back.  They start off as small spiders of course.  They don't have a web as they go hunting for prey.

[Vertigo Swirl]

An adult white-tailed spiders is about 1 inch long, but they crawl over you as you sleep.  It is not a nice feeling for if you try and kill it, it will bite you back.  They start off as small spiders of course.  They don't have a web as they go hunting for prey.

spiders don’t have tails in this country.

[Robittybob1]

How big is  awhite tailed spider...how often are poeple bitten by the spider. I simply dont find much of what sadie says credible

My son was bitten and developed an enormous ulcer.

[sadie]

Its an ad hom to tell me im closed mind. You seem to got a lot wrong. I have never said maddie is dead becasue HCW said so.  Im sure im not the only one here who think your ideas are ridiculous.. In fact I know im not.

Im not softening any stance but Im finding you more and more unreasonable and odd.

I dont beleive you were bitten by  a snake....I dont beleive you were shot at ...and I dont beleive you have had death threats. Im not calling you a liar I think you believe all this but non eof it happened as you think

I can do nothing if you cannot accept that you are closed minded.  I am glad that you are softening a little and that is true.

I have a photo of my bite; it doesn't look much cos it must have been a small snake.   There would be a report at the manor Hospital about giving me an anti tetanus jab, but I don't intend troubling them.

There is an official  Police Report on the shooting at my car, which I have never seen.  It was given late because my family were over from Canada and we were also rushing to go away on holiday at the time.  I gave the report, even late, because I felt that it was my responsibility to inform the police that someone was shooting at cars on the motorway

But because of circumstances, I truly think that my car was the only one ever being shot at.

Unless I have double deleted it, I will have a copy of the death threat email somewhere. It was just in the inbox.   IIRC the title of this was  "Death is Imminent".   I never opened it cos I didn't want anything nasty downloading.   Since then and immediately after I started talking about finding "interesting things" at Foral, I got another email that I immediately deleted .(double deleted, I think)  I cannot remember the words but it alluded to "if I stop now, they will let me off".


OK, you don't have to believe anything about me.  That is OK.

But, someday, maybe you will regret saying these things.  That is if you DO regretting at all, but perhaps that isn't you?


Dave let's just get on with trying to help Madeleine and her family.  That is what we are here for, isn't it?   It is very selfish of us both to take up forum space squabbling.   And not particularly good for the "supporters" on here.

[faithlilly]

According to her father


“Mr Sillence, 61, told The Sun how his daughter - now 24 - was left haunted by the sighting of the man and remains traumatised to this day.”

Doesn’t seem to me that she loved the drama of it all too much.

Part of the Sun article mentioned above.

‘ She even saw a little girl, believed to be Madeleine, on the balcony being watched by the prowler.

A photofit was made with her description of a fair-haired man with pockmarked face and sunglasses.

But Mr Sillence, who used to own the Praia da Luz apartment where Madeleine holidayed, said cops seemed more interested in an older suspect and the McCanns themselves.‘


Can you see the mistakes?

[Mr Gray]

I can do nothing if you cannot accept that you are closed minded.  I am glad that you are softening a little and that is true.

I have a photo of my bite; it doesn't look much cos it must have been a small snake.   There would be a report at the manor Hospital about giving me an anti tetanus jab, but I don't intend troubling them.

There is an official  Police Report on the shooting at my car, which I have never seen.  It was given late because my family were over from Canada and we were also rushing to go away on holiday at the time.  I gave the report, even late, because I felt that it was my responsibility to inform the police that someone was shooting at cars on the motorway

But because of circumstances, I truly think that my car was the only one ever being shot at.

Unless I have double deleted it, I will have a copy of the death threat email somewhere. It was just in the inbox.   IIRC the title of this was  "Death is Imminent".   I never opened it cos I didn't want anything nasty downloading.   Since then and immediately after I started talking about finding "interesting things" at Foral, I got another email that I immediately deleted .(double deleted, I think)  I cannot remember the words but it alluded to "if I stop now, they will let me off".


OK, you don't have to believe anything about me.  That is OK.

But, someday, maybe you will regret saying these things.  That is if you DO regretting at all, but perhaps that isn't you?


Dave let's just get on with trying to help Madeleine and her family.  That is what we are here for, isn't it?   It is very selfish of us both to take up forum space squabbling.   And not particularly good for the "supporters" on here.

Perhaps you could just stop your continual criticism of me. Im not softerning at all ...My views havent changed an iota.

I think you are basically imagining a lot of thigs to be true. I'll stick with the very credible HCW who is convinced maddie is dead and leave you to your psychic crackpots.

I am not here to help the McCanns...I'm not part of any team....more things you have imagined

[G-Unit]

I can do nothing if you cannot accept that you are closed minded.  I am glad that you are softening a little and that is true.

I have a photo of my bite; it doesn't look much cos it must have been a small snake.   There would be a report at the manor Hospital about giving me an anti tetanus jab, but I don't intend troubling them.

There is an official  Police Report on the shooting at my car, which I have never seen.  It was given late because my family were over from Canada and we were also rushing to go away on holiday at the time.  I gave the report, even late, because I felt that it was my responsibility to inform the police that someone was shooting at cars on the motorway

But because of circumstances, I truly think that my car was the only one ever being shot at.

Unless I have double deleted it, I will have a copy of the death threat email somewhere. It was just in the inbox.   IIRC the title of this was  "Death is Imminent".   I never opened it cos I didn't want anything nasty downloading.   Since then and immediately after I started talking about finding "interesting things" at Foral, I got another email that I immediately deleted .(double deleted, I think)  I cannot remember the words but it alluded to "if I stop now, they will let me off".


OK, you don't have to believe anything about me.  That is OK.

But, someday, maybe you will regret saying these things.  That is if you DO regretting at all, but perhaps that isn't you?


Dave let's just get on with trying to help Madeleine and her family.  That is what we are here for, isn't it?   It is very selfish of us both to take up forum space squabbling.   And not particularly good for the "supporters" on here.

Highly entertaining and informative for non-supporters though. 

[Mr Gray]

Highly entertaining and informative for non-supporters though. 

probably because Ive said what a lot of you think

[Robittybob1]

<snip>   I'll stick with the very credible HCW who is convinced maddie is dead  <snip>

I am not here to help the McCanns...I'm not part of any team.. <snip>

Pretty much sums you up, in your own words.

[Mr Gray]

Pretty much sums you up, in your own words.

I dont have  a problem with that.

[Robittybob1]

I dont have  a problem with that.

Good.   

[sadie]

No it isnt. It would depend a lot on the context...sadie said she was bitten by a snake...as I suspected she didnt actually see the snake...I think she was mistaken

I readily admit that I didn't see the snake.  It was in a large and dense crocosmus(sp?) plant and I was pulling out a giant weed which broke off three times.  After the second break, I thrust my hand down into the middle of it and was immediately bitten.

But a snake expert who was on the spot doing reconstruction work at our house, recognised it was a snake bite after I showed it to him a few hours later.  He went out and bare handedly ferked (eek!) around in the plant but it had scarpered.

There was some redness around it and when a physician friend came over from Australia a little while later, I showed it to him.   The bite had largely faded but the redness was still there, sort of spreading out.  He told me to go straight away and get a special anti tetanus injection.   Aparantly tetanus can lie inside the body for weeks multiplying, or gathering strength, before suddenly appearing full blown.  Once that happens, you die a very nasty death.  I was so lucky that he was over cos I was ignoring the redness.

I also showed the photograph to my Indian Cancer surgeon.  She said it was a small snake bite.


Anyway, nobody is interested in this and we are not here to argue, are we Dave?.

[Mr Gray]

I readily admit that I didn't see the snake.  It was in a large and dense crocosmus(sp?) plant and I was pulling out a giant weed which broke off three times.  After the second break, I thrust my hand down into the middle of it and was immediately bitten.

But a snake expert who was on the spot doing reconstruction work at our house, recognised it was a snake bite after I showed it to him a few hours later.  He went out and bare handedly ferked (eek!) around in the plant but it had scarpered.

There was some redness around it and when a physician friend came over from Australia a little while later, I showed it to him.   The bite had largely faded but the redness was still there, sort of spreading out.  He told me to go straight away and get a special anti tetanus injection.   Aparantly tetanus can lie inside the body for weeks multiplying, or gathering strength, before suddenly appearing full blown.  Once that happens, you die a very nasty death.  I was so lucky that he was over cos I was ignoring the redness.

I also showed the photograph to my Indian Cancer surgeon.  She said it was a small snake bite.


Anyway, nobody is interested in this and we are not here to argue, are we Dave?.

You were not treated for a poisonous snake bite.  didnt your snake expert ther eon the day tell you to go straight to hospital...tahts teh correct procedure. I dont beleive you werebitten by a snake....I dont beleive you were shot at and I dont believe youve had death threats. Can we leave it there

[sadie]

You were not treated for a poisonous snake bite.  didnt your snake expert ther eon the day tell you to go straight to hospital...tahts teh correct procedure. I dont beleive you werebitten by a snake....I dont beleive you were shot at and I dont believe youve had death threats. Can we leave it there

Of course we can

So, You don't believe me, therefore, in your eyes, I am either a liar or an idiot.  More ad homs …... SIGH
Your thoughts are YOUR problem, Dave, not mine.  But they may be if you spread them, so please desist. 

PS if I ever stumble across the bite photo or the Police Incident number ( I am very untidy with a mighty mountain of papers, so I might die before I find either) then if I can get my act together, I will send the incident number and the photo to someone whose address I know.   

The snake expert could see that I was OK several hours after the bite and no, he didn't suggest that I go to the hospital.  My guess is that he has had several bites. 



Good to know that we are dropping it here.  I will still be supporting you where I can 

Ciao!

[Mr Gray]

Of course we can

So, You don't believe me, therefore, in your eyes, I am either a liar or an idiot.  More ad homs …... SIGH
Your thoughts are YOUR problem, Dave, not mine.  But they may be if you spread them, so please desist. 

PS if I ever stumble across the bite photo or the Police Incident number ( I am very untidy with a mighty mountain of papers, so I might die before I find either) then if I can get my act together, I will send the incident number and the photo to someone whose address I know.   

The snake expert could see that I was OK several hours after the bite and no, he didn't suggest that I go to the hospital.  My guess is that he has had several bites. 



Good to know that we are dropping it here.  I will still be supporting you where I can 

Ciao!

Hopefully you will desist in calling me closed minded and of blindly supporting HCW... Which is where it all started.