Helge Bushing And Manfred Seyferth

[Vertigo Swirl]

I’d be very surprised if BKA hadn’t shared the evidence that have lead them to believe that Madeleine is dead with. Surely when running a joint investigation that’s the first thing you’d do? What would be the reason not to? Do you think the German authorities are going to stand back and let SY conduct diligences which they have already performed?

If Busching had been caught trafficking there’s your motive right there. That he eventually was given nothing doesn’t change the fact that that possibly was his motivation.

Explain how that works.
I presume you've decided this bit of the report must be a lie then
"The 46-year-old had reportedly given to Metropolitan Policed “voluntarily and without any financial or other consideration, information about the case that has been cross-checked” and “he is considered a reliable source.” "

[misty]

I’d be very surprised if BKA hadn’t shared the evidence that have lead them to believe that Madeleine is dead with SY. Surely when running a joint investigation that’s the first thing you’d do? What would be the reason not to? Do you think the German authorities are going to stand back and let SY conduct diligences which they have already performed?

If Busching had been caught trafficking there’s your motive right there. That he eventually was given nothing doesn’t change the fact that that possibly was his motivation.

I believe there is some sort of law which prevents images & videos gathered during the course of a criminal investigation being shared with third parties without the owner's consent. The material evidence BKA have gathered may well not have been unearthed at the time SY interviewed Busching.
Where was Brueckner in 2017?

[faithlilly]

I believe there is some sort of law which prevents images & videos gathered during the course of a criminal investigation being shared with third parties without the owner's consent. The material evidence BKA have gathered may well not have been unearthed at the time SY interviewed Busching.
Where was Brueckner in 2017?

I’d appreciate a cite for your first claim.

Your second claim I absolutely agree with however there’s been four years for the two authorities to share information and SY still don’t seem convinced Madeleine is dead.

[misty]

I’d appreciate a cite for your first claim.

Your second claim I absolutely agree with however there’s been four years for the two authorities to share information and SY still don’t seem convinced Madeleine is dead.

There's a lot of info here
https://www.unodc.org/e4j/en/cybercrime/module-6/key-issues/handling-of-digital-evidence.html

[faithlilly]

There's a lot of info here
https://www.unodc.org/e4j/en/cybercrime/module-6/key-issues/handling-of-digital-evidence.html

Thank you. I’ll have a look when I’ve got a minute.

[Anthro]

I believe there is some sort of law which prevents images & videos gathered during the course of a criminal investigation being shared with third parties without the owner's consent. The material evidence BKA have gathered may well not have been unearthed at the time SY interviewed Busching.
Where was Brueckner in 2017?

‘2017 - Convicted of sexual abuse of a child in Germany and sentenced to 15 months in prison’. Was this perhaps his girlfriend’s daughter?

[misty]

‘2017 - Convicted of sexual abuse of a child in Germany and sentenced to 15 months in prison’. Was this perhaps his girlfriend’s daughter?

He was extradited from Portugal to Germany in June 2017 to serve that sentence. That was not long after he'd been arrested for exposing himself to young girls in the playground at Sao Bartomoleu de Messines. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8488073/McCann-suspected-extradited-Portugal-twice-child-sex-offences.html

I wonder who he stayed with when he was in Portugal that year?

[sadie]

https://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/2017/08/28/madeleine-mccann-greece/
August 28, 2017

Scotland Yard is looking for the secret of British toddler Madeleine McCann in Athens after a witness contacted the team Grange. A Greek newspaper revealed that a German citizen living in Athens contacted  “Team Grange” claiming he had information about the case as he was in nearby area when 3-year-old Madeleine disappeared from a hotel in Algarve Portugal  in 2007.

According to Sunday newspaper To Vima, the 46-year-old German citizen has already spoken with detectives of Scotland Yard’s “Grange”, a team established in 2011 and assigned with the Madeleine’s case.

The meeting between the British detectives and the German took place in Athens a couple of days  ago, the man reportedly gave critical information about the girl’s fate. He has been described as “important and trustworthy witness.”

(some text removed here as not relevant to witness)

cont...

New witness

Citing a memo prepared by the Greek Police on 18 July 2017, To Vima reports that the German national had contacted the Grange team last May the aim to help investigation. The Police memo was based on a briefing the Greek police representative in London had received by the Metropolitan Police of UK.

The 46-year-old had reportedly given to Metropolitan Policed “voluntarily and without any financial or other consideration, information about the case that has been cross-checked” and “he is considered a reliable source.”

Citing several police sources and documents, To Vima writes that the German national who has permanent residence in France was arrested in Igoumenista, North-West Greece, in 2011 for the transport of illegal migrants from Africa. A case was filed but he was set free. He was arrested again in Thessaloniki in 2015, when he returned to Greece for holidays. He was sentenced to seven years and five months imprisonment. He denied charges claiming he had helped the three hiking foreigners. He served his sentence in the prison of Chania, Crete, and from there he contacted the team Grange.

HE was released form prison a few weeks ago and he allegedly used a cell phone registered to a woman, national of a Balkan country, and resident of Agios Panteleimonas district of Athens.

The man had been banned from living the country pending 2nd degree trial scheduled for next month.

To Vima has reportedly contacted the man in the region of Fthiotida, Central Greece. He admitted to have talked with Scotland Yard detectives who had come to Athens in  order to talk with him.

“I give important information for the case. On the day Madeleine disappeared I was also in the particular province in Portugal, in a neighboring area,” the German national told the newspaper. He claimed that he had contacted the local police back then but there was no further investigation.

“Now there is keen interest from Scotland Yard for the information I have, however I am not allowed to say anything to anyone else.” the man said adding that his cooperation with British police will continue in the coming days.

To Vima-reporter’s question about Madeleine’s fate and if he thinks she was still alive, the man replied, ten years have passed since then are a lot..”

Full story To Vima online.

To Vima-reporter’s question about Madeleine’s fate and if he thinks she was still alive, the man replied, ten years have passed since then are a lot..”


I think this sounds like Vima knew that Madeleine was alive in the early days of abduction, but that he had lost touch with the situation because 10 years had passed and anything could have happened during that period.

Does anyone else read it that way ?

[Brietta]

To Vima-reporter’s question about Madeleine’s fate and if he thinks she was still alive, the man replied, ten years have passed since then are a lot..”


I think this sounds like Vima knew that Madeleine was alive in the early days of abduction, but that he had lost touch with the situation because 10 years had passed and anything could have happened during that period.

Does anyone else read it that way ?

I think he knows more than he is saying ~ but I think that may be as a result of the commitment he gave to Scotland Yard that he would only speak to them.
I think they are taking what he has to say very seriously indeed and I think so does he.

[Lace]

I am convinced the man Tasmin saw was CB,  in her statement she says the man was wearing a black leather jacket.  The woman who owned the villa where CB lived said he always wore a black leather jacket,  coincidence?

https://www.fr24news.com/a/2020/06/villa-owner-of-madeleine-mccann-murder-suspect-urges-police-to-search.html

[faithlilly]

I am convinced the man Tasmin saw was CB,  in her statement she says the man was wearing a black leather jacket.  The woman who owned the villa where CB lived said he always wore a black leather jacket,  coincidence?

https://www.fr24news.com/a/2020/06/villa-owner-of-madeleine-mccann-murder-suspect-urges-police-to-search.html

Yes.

I know of a least 5 men who have a black leather jacket and wear it on a regular basis and Brueckner can hardly be called ugly. He certainly seems to have been quite successful with women.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I am convinced the man Tasmin saw was CB,  in her statement she says the man was wearing a black leather jacket.  The woman who owned the villa where CB lived said he always wore a black leather jacket,  coincidence?

https://www.fr24news.com/a/2020/06/villa-owner-of-madeleine-mccann-murder-suspect-urges-police-to-search.html

This woman also describes him as ugly, as did Tasmin.

[G-Unit]

I am convinced the man Tasmin saw was CB,  in her statement she says the man was wearing a black leather jacket.  The woman who owned the villa where CB lived said he always wore a black leather jacket,  coincidence?

https://www.fr24news.com/a/2020/06/villa-owner-of-madeleine-mccann-murder-suspect-urges-police-to-search.html

The woman also says she never met him.

Silva, who is Portuguese but speaks strangely with an Australian accent, said that she had never met Brueckner when he stayed at her house.
https://www.fr24news.com/a/2020/06/villa-owner-of-madeleine-mccann-murder-suspect-urges-police-to-search.html

Perhaps she was told about it by local people just as she was told he carried a gun;

“He likes to intimidate people from what I’ve been told. Everyone was talking about him with the gun because it was so unusual.
https://www.fr24news.com/a/2020/06/villa-owner-of-madeleine-mccann-murder-suspect-urges-police-to-search.html

According to Seyforth in the latest documentary Brueckner dressed smartly, like a head waiter, he wasn't like them. I understood  him to mean CB wasn't hippy-like, which is how I see Seyforth.

[Vertigo Swirl]

The woman also says she never met him.

Silva, who is Portuguese but speaks strangely with an Australian accent, said that she had never met Brueckner when he stayed at her house.
https://www.fr24news.com/a/2020/06/villa-owner-of-madeleine-mccann-murder-suspect-urges-police-to-search.html

Perhaps she was told about it by local people just as she was told he carried a gun;

“He likes to intimidate people from what I’ve been told. Everyone was talking about him with the gun because it was so unusual.
https://www.fr24news.com/a/2020/06/villa-owner-of-madeleine-mccann-murder-suspect-urges-police-to-search.html

According to Seyforth in the latest documentary Brueckner dressed smartly, like a head waiter, he wasn't like them. I understood  him to mean CB wasn't hippy-like, which is how I see Seyforth.

THe article also says "Silva said she had never seen Brueckner with the gun and thinks it was to enhance his image" which would suggest that she had seen him before, just not with a gun.

[xtina]

I am convinced the man Tasmin saw was CB,  in her statement she says the man was wearing a black leather jacket.  The woman who owned the villa where CB lived said he always wore a black leather jacket,  coincidence?

https://www.fr24news.com/a/2020/06/villa-owner-of-madeleine-mccann-murder-suspect-urges-police-to-search.html

Well, it seems CB went on a mission obviously trying to be discreet yet went in his everyday wear.

Strange how all these bungling things he did leading up to the abduction.

Yet then was the ultimate professional abductor leaving not one iota of evidence.

Leather Jackets IMO never go out of style and are worn by most men imo.

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