Dog alerts indicating Cadaver Odor

[ferryman]

The defence lawyer said that he wishes the arguido to be asked again if Madeleine bled. To which he said it was common for Madeleine to have nosebleeds. He says that he doesn’t know if in fact his daughter bled while on holiday in Portugal, because he does not want to be influenced by the news in the Press, regarding the detection of human blood in the apartment where his daughter disappeared.

Ah, well, we know Paul Anthony Gordon bled ...

[Redblossom]

If there was NO point sending in the dogs, then you are calling the British authorities fools as well as wasters of time and money. perhaps that includes Gerry Mccann as well who stated it was him would requested these dogs to be brought in.

The  other flats were relet as well, so that argument is not too strong. And if , as purported by some, Eddie alerts to all sorts of things, you would think he would alert to all these other things in any one of those other apartments, and Murats villa just as much, if any tom dick or harry could have rented them.

The only comment made today I think, and by Angelo, that furthers the argument that the cadaver dog issue couldbe problematic, is that flat 5a had loads of people trapsing in and out of it, from that night, before police were called, and later on.

There would have been a point in sending Eddie: ruling out that there was a body to find.

But that was about it ...

You  are too funny sometimes, OBVIOUSLY there was no body in 5a, so.......they sent Eddie in for a different reason

[ferryman]

The simple fact is that The Dogs produced nothing at all.  And certainly nothing fit to be used in a Court of Law.  A complete waste of time, in fact.  Except for Martin Grime.

Lucrative for him.

At least in the short term ...

[Redblossom]

The simple fact is that The Dogs produced nothing at all.  And certainly nothing fit to be used in a Court of Law.  A complete waste of time, in fact.  Except for Martin Grime.

Lucrative for him.

At least in the short term ...

i think the police on a massive child abuse and suspected multiple murder case  would have been the arbiters of how long to keep him on, therefore the only ones paying him for his months of work

[Carana]

Carana:

But there's also this from Harrison's report, which I've never understood (concerning Keela this time, not Eddie):

The most poignant being :
When 'Keela' was nine months old she was tasked to search an open fishing boat, contaminated by rotting fish flesh and BLOOD.
A missing person was believed to have killed on the boat.
The dog located and alerted to a blood sample that was so small that when LOW
COPY analysed was reported as being PRIMATE and an uncompleted sample.
There are only two scenarios to suit this find. The blood was either human or a gorilla went out in a boat fishing ! !
Should you require further examples or comments, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Mark Harrison

Now, here's a thing.  What's uploaded on line suggests Mark Harrison.

However, the original doesn't have his name ...

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P9/09_VOLUME_IXa_Page_2268.jpg

Beyond doubt it's in the section marked Grime's profile.

What's that all about?

There's something a bit odd... You're right.

pp. 2262-2268 = MG's profile.

So what is that other document? Something sent by Harrison in advance? Not sure yet.

[Carana]

The typed-out /OCRd document says Mark Harrison at the bottom:

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES_PERSONAL.htm

But the original doesn't.

[Carana]

Carana:

But there's also this from Harrison's report, which I've never understood (concerning Keela this time, not Eddie):

The most poignant being :
When 'Keela' was nine months old she was tasked to search an open fishing boat, contaminated by rotting fish flesh and BLOOD.
A missing person was believed to have killed on the boat.
The dog located and alerted to a blood sample that was so small that when LOW
COPY analysed was reported as being PRIMATE and an uncompleted sample.
There are only two scenarios to suit this find. The blood was either human or a gorilla went out in a boat fishing ! !
Should you require further examples or comments, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Mark Harrison

Now, here's a thing.  What's uploaded on line suggests Mark Harrison.

However, the original doesn't have his name ...

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P9/09_VOLUME_IXa_Page_2268.jpg

Beyond doubt it's in the section marked Grime's profile.

What's that all about?

The typed-out /OCRd document says Mark Harrison at the bottom:

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES_PERSONAL.htm

But the original doesn't.


I think I've worked it out, but not sure.

The sig of Mark Harrison at the bottom isn't a sig, but a link to his pages. In which case, that anecdote wasn't from MH, but from Grime's profile.

[peter claridge]

The defence lawyer said that he wishes the arguido to be asked again if Madeleine bled. To which he said it was common for Madeleine to have nosebleeds. He says that he doesn’t know if in fact his daughter bled while on holiday in Portugal, because he does not want to be influenced by the news in the Press, regarding the detection of human blood in the apartment where his daughter disappeared.

Ah, well, we know Paul Anthony Gordon bled ...

Ah, well, but Gerald wants to give us an excuse for why Madeleine's blood may have been found in the apartment.  Also, don't you think it's a tad remiss of the McCann's to leave their sleepwalking daughter that suffered with nosebleeds in an unlocked apartment...

[DCI]

The defence lawyer said that he wishes the arguido to be asked again if Madeleine bled. To which he said it was common for Madeleine to have nosebleeds. He says that he doesn’t know if in fact his daughter bled while on holiday in Portugal, because he does not want to be influenced by the news in the Press, regarding the detection of human blood in the apartment where his daughter disappeared.

Ah, well, we know Paul Anthony Gordon bled ...

Ah, well, but Gerald wants to give us an excuse for why Madeleine's blood may have been found in the apartment.  Also, don't you think it's a tad remiss of the McCann's to leave their sleepwalking daughter that suffered with nosebleeds in an unlocked apartment...

My god, where do you find this rubbish? Do you have proof she was a sleep walker, or suffered with nosebleeds?

Madeleine could have bled from a cut on her leg. She tripped up the plane steps, when boarding.

[Eleanor]

The defence lawyer said that he wishes the arguido to be asked again if Madeleine bled. To which he said it was common for Madeleine to have nosebleeds. He says that he doesn’t know if in fact his daughter bled while on holiday in Portugal, because he does not want to be influenced by the news in the Press, regarding the detection of human blood in the apartment where his daughter disappeared.

Ah, well, we know Paul Anthony Gordon bled ...

Ah, well, but Gerald wants to give us an excuse for why Madeleine's blood may have been found in the apartment.  Also, don't you think it's a tad remiss of the McCann's to leave their sleepwalking daughter that suffered with nosebleeds in an unlocked apartment...

My god, where do you find this rubbish? Do you have proof she was a sleep walker, or suffered with nosebleeds?

Madeleine could have bled from a cut on her leg. She tripped up the plane steps, when boarding.

There they go again.  More utter rubbish.

[registrar]

The defence lawyer said that he wishes the arguido to be asked again if Madeleine bled. To which he said it was common for Madeleine to have nosebleeds. He says that he doesn’t know if in fact his daughter bled while on holiday in Portugal, because he does not want to be influenced by the news in the Press, regarding the detection of human blood in the apartment where his daughter disappeared.

Ah, well, we know Paul Anthony Gordon bled ...

Ah, well, but Gerald wants to give us an excuse for why Madeleine's blood may have been found in the apartment.  Also, don't you think it's a tad remiss of the McCann's to leave their sleepwalking daughter that suffered with nosebleeds in an unlocked apartment...

My god, where do you find this rubbish? Do you have proof she was a sleep walker, or suffered with nosebleeds?

Madeleine could have bled from a cut on her leg. She tripped up the plane steps, when boarding.

There they go again.  More utter rubbish.

quite

 - hark! - the sound of scraping the bottom of a barrel of Port

It'll be blue bags and fridges again next - these things tend to come round in cycles

[DCI]

The defence lawyer said that he wishes the arguido to be asked again if Madeleine bled. To which he said it was common for Madeleine to have nosebleeds. He says that he doesn’t know if in fact his daughter bled while on holiday in Portugal, because he does not want to be influenced by the news in the Press, regarding the detection of human blood in the apartment where his daughter disappeared.

Ah, well, we know Paul Anthony Gordon bled ...

Ah, well, but Gerald wants to give us an excuse for why Madeleine's blood may have been found in the apartment.  Also, don't you think it's a tad remiss of the McCann's to leave their sleepwalking daughter that suffered with nosebleeds in an unlocked apartment...

My god, where do you find this rubbish? Do you have proof she was a sleep walker, or suffered with nosebleeds?

Madeleine could have bled from a cut on her leg. She tripped up the plane steps, when boarding.

There they go again.  More utter rubbish.

Downright disgusting lies, Eleanor. Hope admin are taking note, of these lies 

[Eleanor]

The defence lawyer said that he wishes the arguido to be asked again if Madeleine bled. To which he said it was common for Madeleine to have nosebleeds. He says that he doesn’t know if in fact his daughter bled while on holiday in Portugal, because he does not want to be influenced by the news in the Press, regarding the detection of human blood in the apartment where his daughter disappeared.

Ah, well, we know Paul Anthony Gordon bled ...

Ah, well, but Gerald wants to give us an excuse for why Madeleine's blood may have been found in the apartment.  Also, don't you think it's a tad remiss of the McCann's to leave their sleepwalking daughter that suffered with nosebleeds in an unlocked apartment...

My god, where do you find this rubbish? Do you have proof she was a sleep walker, or suffered with nosebleeds?

Madeleine could have bled from a cut on her leg. She tripped up the plane steps, when boarding.

There they go again.  More utter rubbish.

Downright disgusting lies, Eleanor. Hope admin are taking note, of these lies 

Don't worry about Admin, DCI.  Never have I seen such an unbiased Forum in all of the six years that I have been at this.

[sadie]

Peter keeps doing this.

The worst example of a blatent lie was when he said words like "None of the tapas checked their children and (IIRC) that Jane Tanner didn't see anything".  .... he didn't even try and soften the lie at all.

Me too.  I hope that admin are watching this guy.

[Eleanor]

Peter keeps doing this.

The worst example of a blatent lie was when he said words like "None of the tapas checked their children and (IIRC) that Jane Tanner didn't see anything".  .... he didn't even try and soften the lie at all.

Me too.  I hope that admin are watching this guy.

Don't worry about it, Sadie.  They know what they are doing.  This is what I mean, you see.