Author Topic: What's The Significance, If Any?  (Read 15327 times)

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What's The Significance, If Any?
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2021, 10:07:46 AM »
Are you encouraging me to indulge in what you described as a "fantasy"?
Where did I do that a propos the link I posted?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What's The Significance, If Any?
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2021, 10:10:16 AM »
What obstacles existed?
The need to return the car.  Where did they do this?  Do you think when they hired the car they did so knowing they were going to kidnap a child in advance?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline barrier

Re: What's The Significance, If Any?
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2021, 10:18:22 AM »
Back to the opening post and thread title, the significance is over stated imo, the BKA along with OG are stumped OG keep an open mind and obviously don't/didn't expect any startling revelation  to emerge.Its still not set in stone that a stranger abduction occurred from 5a.

“While this male is a suspect we retain an open mind as to his involvement and this remains a missing person inquiry.

“Our job as detectives is to follow the evidence, maintain an open mind and establish what happened on that day in May 2007.
« Last Edit: February 20, 2021, 10:21:09 AM by barrier »
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What's The Significance, If Any?
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2021, 10:46:17 AM »
Back to the opening post and thread title, the significance is over stated imo, the BKA along with OG are stumped OG keep an open mind and obviously don't/didn't expect any startling revelation  to emerge.Its still not set in stone that a stranger abduction occurred from 5a.

“While this male is a suspect we retain an open mind as to his involvement and this remains a missing person inquiry.

“Our job as detectives is to follow the evidence, maintain an open mind and establish what happened on that day in May 2007.

I think Holly was asking what was the significance of the appeal for information  being removed from the Met’s website, unless I have misunderstood?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Holly Goodhead

Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline jassi

Re: What's The Significance, If Any?
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2021, 10:56:52 AM »
Back to the opening post and thread title, the significance is over stated imo, the BKA along with OG are stumped OG keep an open mind and obviously don't/didn't expect any startling revelation  to emerge.Its still not set in stone that a stranger abduction occurred from 5a.

“While this male is a suspect we retain an open mind as to his involvement and this remains a missing person inquiry.

“Our job as detectives is to follow the evidence, maintain an open mind and establish what happened on that day in May 2007.


IMO OG don't sound overly committed to this line of investigation, but as the saying goes, leave no stone unturned.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: What's The Significance, If Any?
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2021, 10:59:52 AM »
The need to return the car.  Where did they do this?  Do you think when they hired the car they did so knowing they were going to kidnap a child in advance?

Afaik the contents of the witnesses' statement hasn't been verified so going on all the info provided and my own research it isn't clear where the witness and her husband were living at the time.  It appears they had connections with UK and Belgium via a job.  As Belgium is within Schengen what difficulties presented in travelling between Portugal and Belgium or any other country within Schengen?

Assuming they hired a car , as per wit stat, they could leave anywhere for collection either within Portugal or outside. 

With regard to your last question I assume at the time they arrived in Portugal they were oblivious to MM. 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Brietta

Re: What's The Significance, If Any?
« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2021, 11:01:40 AM »
IMO OG don't sound overly committed to this line of investigation, but as the saying goes, leave no stone unturned.

Play your cards close to the chest and don't lie about having a series of Aces up your sleeve ~ unless that's where you keep your High court judges.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What's The Significance, If Any?
« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2021, 11:07:13 AM »

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11834.msg630458#msg630458
Sorry but what has this got to do with the link to the news report from early May 2007 of a couple who saw a dark coloured saloon style car parked close to the supermarket and spot where Madeleine's trail went cold as far as the sniffer dogs were concerned?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What's The Significance, If Any?
« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2021, 11:09:34 AM »
Afaik the contents of the witnesses' statement hasn't been verified so going on all the info provided and my own research it isn't clear where the witness and her husband were living at the time.  It appears they had connections with UK and Belgium via a job.  As Belgium is within Schengen what difficulties presented in travelling between Portugal and Belgium or any other country within Schengen?

Assuming they hired a car , as per wit stat, they could leave anywhere for collection either within Portugal or outside. 

With regard to your last question I assume at the time they arrived in Portugal they were oblivious to MM.
I wonder if the police investigated car rental agency bookings post 3rd May?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline jassi

Re: What's The Significance, If Any?
« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2021, 11:14:26 AM »
Play your cards close to the chest and don't lie about having a series of Aces up your sleeve ~ unless that's where you keep your High court judges.

To use your card analogy, a main strategy is 'bluffing' - unless you happen to be playing Happy Families
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Brietta

Re: What's The Significance, If Any?
« Reply #26 on: February 20, 2021, 11:15:20 AM »
I think Holly was asking what was the significance of the appeal for information  being removed from the Met’s website, unless I have misunderstood?

Seems the goalposts have shifted somewhat to the assumption that the Policia Judicairia didn't bother to check out hire cars and other vehicles in the area.

They did.

And some of that information is in the files.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: What's The Significance, If Any?
« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2021, 11:17:57 AM »
I wonder if the police investigated car rental agency bookings post 3rd May?

You would hope so but if it wasn't done until OG kicked in unlikely such data still existed.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: What's The Significance, If Any?
« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2021, 11:19:38 AM »
IMO OG don't sound overly committed to this line of investigation, but as the saying goes, leave no stone unturned.

DCI Mark Cranwell didn't come over well in his appeal/interview with Martin Brunt imo.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Brietta

Re: What's The Significance, If Any?
« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2021, 11:20:02 AM »
To use your card analogy, a main strategy is 'bluffing' - unless you happen to be playing Happy Families

The assumption that the police should be publishing all the information they hold about an active case on the internet reduces me to paroxysms of laughter.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....