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Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2310 on: March 27, 2023, 12:30:40 AM »
Only those with limited insight can't see what's going on here. Where in any of the above SL claims will it overturn the circumstantial evidence that convicted LM in the first place? Con artist.

A circumstantial case was presented by the Crown because there was no forensic evidence against Luke. If there is testing of the saved samples and they lead to DNA linked to another name then it could certainly lead to the overturning of the case, just as it did in the Steven Avery case. The circumstantial nonsense will simply fall away.

The victim of the 1985 rape with which Avery was convicted identified him as her attacker. She was, of course, wrong and apologised later.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2311 on: March 27, 2023, 07:25:33 AM »
A circumstantial case was presented by the Crown because there was no forensic evidence against Luke. If there is testing of the saved samples and they lead to DNA linked to another name then it could certainly lead to the overturning of the case, just as it did in the Steven Avery case. The circumstantial nonsense will simply fall away.

The victim of the 1985 rape with which Avery was convicted identified him as her attacker. She was, of course, wrong and apologised later.
Of course if the DNA turns out to be his his team will have a whole raft of excuses why it was there so he can’t lose by having it tested.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Parky41

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2312 on: March 27, 2023, 11:56:59 AM »
Of course if the DNA turns out to be his his team will have a whole raft of excuses why it was there so he can’t lose by having it tested.
Firstly let us swiftly apply reality to this = Crock of s**t.

Let us NOT deflect from what is NOT happening which is nothing legally, there is nothing new here, what there is, is an attempt to salvage something from all the previous manipulated hype.

Here is context and reality once more - 2021 and many people were contacted around the disposal of items from storage in relation to this case, to be returned to owner or permission to destroy. The enablers got wind of this and it was morphed into "Illegal destruction of evidence"

What was NEVER up for destruction/disposal were certain samples/tests retained in labs - Said it then that one would be extremely surprised if this were the case. What the manipulator/enablers now apply is that they stopped this - Have a word.

There is storage units for masses of items obtained in multiple crimes, they just get fuller and fuller until action is taken to clear out and make room for more. It takes little to imagine the storage for this case alone, 1000's of items including a massive replica wall. There is a slithering of truth in people who dealt with this case, the retainment of many items, officers now heading into retirement, many tasks needing done before they set sail into the sunset of those golden years ------ That is context and reality, there is no rushing to destroy anything because of some stupid TV show. There has never been anything found untoward in this case that has ever merited legal action where any evidence is concerned.

SF's, "15 sperm deposits" to SL and IB, 15 "unsatisfactory samples" to that predictive wording now of "not tested" - Gullible? How does it go? 'I am a little sperm head, I am defunct but my fellow swimmer survived, we speak for ourselves, no tests required to determine what we are?' - Of course the samples were bloody tested - Have a word!

Where is the slithering of truth and manipulation here? - I know, this is the first time we have actually seen this on a list as opposed to the reports we have around the forensics/testing. We can say this is new because the list is new to us, it is NOT new/different to what is already in possession. Dam, when we have Lean saying, she had still not matched the correct samples to reports, she is certainly not going to be saying I can match those on the list to anything, are they now? Best just to apply new - Yawn.

Skip the hype, the fallacy and go straight to what is important here - Not new, no appeals to be had, nothing hidden or undisclosed to anyone, it is the same tests/samples that these enablers have been spinning out for years. - Back to the WAP again. Here is a defunct sperm head, we can apply one solo male to this until we know who's it is. Here is another defunct sperm head, we can apply another male to this, we can't say it is the same male unless there is the ability to obtain full profiles - and on it goes --------

Here I go again, I know - When we apply LM having direct source of an agreement made in front of him around certain forensics in this case, we then have to apply absolute fact that he knows every single detail of that agreement. When we simply state "another source" without naming source, it allows manipulators and enablers to blank the exact reason for that agreement. And when someone scrapes and strives to blank the exact reason, then we apply the why to this? - It allows for what is still happening in the present day, continuous groundhog day -

VS is correct - There is nothing to lose for someone who is already in full possession of every detail of that agreement, the further clarification of "nothing found that could not be innocently explained away" never changes - Tactics to keep the same focus and support, manipulation and support by deception ----

Two accepted donors, any trace transferral/diffusion from original source of SK and of course LM. You are told there is absolutely nothing, that is zero of LM to do with Jodi Jones at all in any reports. There is, of course there is, let us take one small example here, the visit by Jodi to Mitchells home/ his bedroom the Saturday before her death. We can apply two things here? One that many samples were found pertaining to Jodi Jones, or that LM scrubbed that bedroom, a massive overhaul and clean up took place, the latter did not happen, did it now? - Continuously spun a yarn to place focus on just two things, the only two things discussed, introduced before that agreement took place, the bra strap and the trouser in a bag ------------- The rest blanked on repeat.

In brief, nothing illegal, no shady actions at all. Every single thing held on to for 18yrs were most should have been returned/disposed off many years ago. Certain test/samples that were never up for any disposal at all, no one put a halt to any of this, you don't halt what was not taken place. They got wind of items being disposed/returned by the very people this was taken place with. There was no illegal destruction of evidence.

That tiny excerpt put out, manipulated around about destroying items, we can ask again 'Were items belonging to a certain person disposed of without consulting with the owner first?' A civil matter around personal belongings and not evidence.

Again, take that knife pouch, a production at trial. A case solved, spent its time, the item reverts back to a possession, a belonging and no longer evidence - The Jones family, such bad people, imagine NOT wanting "bloody clothing" back - Some very odd people out there, that's for sure!



Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2313 on: March 27, 2023, 06:41:14 PM »
Firstly let us swiftly apply reality to this = Crock of s**t.

Let us NOT deflect from what is NOT happening which is nothing legally, there is nothing new here, what there is, is an attempt to salvage something from all the previous manipulated hype.

Here is context and reality once more - 2021 and many people were contacted around the disposal of items from storage in relation to this case, to be returned to owner or permission to destroy. The enablers got wind of this and it was morphed into "Illegal destruction of evidence"

What was NEVER up for destruction/disposal were certain samples/tests retained in labs - Said it then that one would be extremely surprised if this were the case. What the manipulator/enablers now apply is that they stopped this - Have a word.

There is storage units for masses of items obtained in multiple crimes, they just get fuller and fuller until action is taken to clear out and make room for more. It takes little to imagine the storage for this case alone, 1000's of items including a massive replica wall. There is a slithering of truth in people who dealt with this case, the retainment of many items, officers now heading into retirement, many tasks needing done before they set sail into the sunset of those golden years ------ That is context and reality, there is no rushing to destroy anything because of some stupid TV show. There has never been anything found untoward in this case that has ever merited legal action where any evidence is concerned.

SF's, "15 sperm deposits" to SL and IB, 15 "unsatisfactory samples" to that predictive wording now of "not tested" - Gullible? How does it go? 'I am a little sperm head, I am defunct but my fellow swimmer survived, we speak for ourselves, no tests required to determine what we are?' - Of course the samples were bloody tested - Have a word!

Where is the slithering of truth and manipulation here? - I know, this is the first time we have actually seen this on a list as opposed to the reports we have around the forensics/testing. We can say this is new because the list is new to us, it is NOT new/different to what is already in possession. Dam, when we have Lean saying, she had still not matched the correct samples to reports, she is certainly not going to be saying I can match those on the list to anything, are they now? Best just to apply new - Yawn.

Skip the hype, the fallacy and go straight to what is important here - Not new, no appeals to be had, nothing hidden or undisclosed to anyone, it is the same tests/samples that these enablers have been spinning out for years. - Back to the WAP again. Here is a defunct sperm head, we can apply one solo male to this until we know who's it is. Here is another defunct sperm head, we can apply another male to this, we can't say it is the same male unless there is the ability to obtain full profiles - and on it goes --------

Here I go again, I know - When we apply LM having direct source of an agreement made in front of him around certain forensics in this case, we then have to apply absolute fact that he knows every single detail of that agreement. When we simply state "another source" without naming source, it allows manipulators and enablers to blank the exact reason for that agreement. And when someone scrapes and strives to blank the exact reason, then we apply the why to this? - It allows for what is still happening in the present day, continuous groundhog day -

VS is correct - There is nothing to lose for someone who is already in full possession of every detail of that agreement, the further clarification of "nothing found that could not be innocently explained away" never changes - Tactics to keep the same focus and support, manipulation and support by deception ----

Two accepted donors, any trace transferral/diffusion from original source of SK and of course LM. You are told there is absolutely nothing, that is zero of LM to do with Jodi Jones at all in any reports. There is, of course there is, let us take one small example here, the visit by Jodi to Mitchells home/ his bedroom the Saturday before her death. We can apply two things here? One that many samples were found pertaining to Jodi Jones, or that LM scrubbed that bedroom, a massive overhaul and clean up took place, the latter did not happen, did it now? - Continuously spun a yarn to place focus on just two things, the only two things discussed, introduced before that agreement took place, the bra strap and the trouser in a bag ------------- The rest blanked on repeat.

In brief, nothing illegal, no shady actions at all. Every single thing held on to for 18yrs were most should have been returned/disposed off many years ago. Certain test/samples that were never up for any disposal at all, no one put a halt to any of this, you don't halt what was not taken place. They got wind of items being disposed/returned by the very people this was taken place with. There was no illegal destruction of evidence.

That tiny excerpt put out, manipulated around about destroying items, we can ask again 'Were items belonging to a certain person disposed of without consulting with the owner first?' A civil matter around personal belongings and not evidence.

Again, take that knife pouch, a production at trial. A case solved, spent its time, the item reverts back to a possession, a belonging and no longer evidence - The Jones family, such bad people, imagine NOT wanting "bloody clothing" back - Some very odd people out there, that's for sure!

I love it when you’re stung into hyperbolic verbosity….excellent.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2314 on: March 28, 2023, 01:20:40 PM »
Group member
Hi Folks, just a quick question really if anyone knows the answer. The day that Jodie was killed, was she in attendance at school that whole day, was she marked in all of her classes? I’m just thinking there isn’t a lot of time between 5.15 and when Jodie was found to clean up the scene and remove any trace of the evidence so to speak, especially with it being summer and it would’ve been just with kids, dog walkers etc. Isnt it a more reasonable conclusion that Jodie was killed earlier in the day at another location bc there is not a chance in hell someone can lose that amount of blood and there be no trace of it, common sense tells you that so what the police were thinking not looking for another location is beyond me, possibly if they looked into this “secret room

Sandra Lean
Both Jodi and Luke were marked as present for all their classes that day. The concert was at Newbattle High (not St David's, where Luke and Jodi attended) - it gets confusing, because Jodi was found behind Newbattle School, but she attended St David's. Neither school finished early that day - Newbattle did have a concert that evening, but the school day finished at its normal time.

School finished just after 3.30pm - Luke could walk home in about 20 minutes, but Jodi would have to get the bus to her home. We don't know, to this day, whether she got the school bus or the public bus but, according to her mum, she walked through the door at exactly 4.05pm. For her to have been killed at exactly 5.15pm, as the prosecution claimed, there are only 70 minutes for her to go upstairs, get changed, listen to a 7 minute long Rod Stewart track, walk to the V point in the wall and be involved in the horrendous fight for her life before the knife wounds to her throat which killed her.

Also, according to her mum, Jodi was in the house for exactly 45 of those 70 minutes. So, if all of this is correct, Jodi left home at 4.50pm, walked to the Easthouses end of the path (2 mins 40 seconds), stopped long enough to be seen having some sort of discussion with a male, by Andrina Bryson (call it another minute), then walked down to the V point (approximately 8 minutes) - it's now 5.02pm - climbed over the wall and, 13 minutes later, was dead. There's a huge problem with all of this as well - Jodi smoked cannabis within an hour of her death. Her mum insisted she never smoked in the house, so, in the remaining 13 minutes, we also have to build in enough time for that joint to be smoked.

The fight prior to her death was prolonged and moving - there were blood splashes on branches either side of the woodland strip to where Jodi's body was found. It's a very, very tight timescale, by any measure.

But we have to remember, the 5.15pm time of death was not arrived at by any form of scientific reasoning - an analyst was brought in to see if she could find a "window of opportunity" for Luke to have been the killer and all of the other timings (including the time Jodi left, the AB sighting, etc were adjusted around that. Any other time that evening and Luke Mitchell could not have been the killer.



Was sadistic killer Luke Mitchell on his other missing bike
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2315 on: March 28, 2023, 01:36:17 PM »
Jodi's sister Janine gives evidence in a temporary courtroom at the Laigh Hall in Parliament House, where a replica of the wall behind which Jodi's body was found has been specially constructed

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12401135.timeline-jodi-jones-murder-case/

How many witnesses gave evidence in Leigh/Laigh hall ?

Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2316 on: March 28, 2023, 01:50:25 PM »
15th July 2003

Lothian and Borders police confirmed that they are considering an appeal for witnesses on the BBC's Crimewatch programme.

However, yesterday a police spokesman declined to comment on reports that a 14-year-old youth had been questioned in connection with a missing knife. It is understood the boy had shown the knife off to friends after receiving it as a Christmas present, but it has since disappeared.



Was killer Luke Mitchell’s missing brown handled Jack Pyke knife a Christmas present from the previous year (2002) ?

And if so who bought the killer the knife - Corinne Mitchell?

Did psycho killer Luke Mitchell show his then girlfriend Kim T his Christmas present ie; new knife?


Evidence emerged about his fascination with knives, his enjoyment of cannabis and the fact he was two-timing Jodi with a girl who was "almost identical" to her.
« Last Edit: March 28, 2023, 01:57:16 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2317 on: March 28, 2023, 01:58:56 PM »
15th July 2003

Lothian and Borders police confirmed that they are considering an appeal for witnesses on the BBC's Crimewatch programme.

However, yesterday a police spokesman declined to comment on reports that a 14-year-old youth had been questioned in connection with a missing knife. It is understood the boy had shown the knife off to friends after receiving it as a Christmas present, but it has since disappeared.



Was killer Luke Mitchell’s missing brown handled Jack Pyke knife a Christmas present from the previous year (2002) ?

At the weekend police set up an e-mail address for people to leave information or post anonymous tip-offs. A police spokesman said they have received e-mails from as far afield as the US and Holland.

Police are anxious to speak to people who may have spotted Jodi just before she was murdered.


Strongly suspect many people sent in emails about psycho killer Luke Mitchell
« Last Edit: March 28, 2023, 02:03:10 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2318 on: March 28, 2023, 02:00:14 PM »
”A total of 220 police staff were involved in the inquiry, taking 3150 statements from more than 2000 people.

Detectives searched Mitchell's home on July 4, four days after Jodi's body was found, and took a number of items away for examination.

More than 20 bottles of urine, a Marilyn Manson CD and DVD and a calendar featuring the goth musician were among the items seized.


Killer Luke Mitchell was urinating in bottles found in his bedroom prior to his murder

Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2319 on: March 28, 2023, 02:06:28 PM »
15th July 2003

Lothian and Borders police confirmed that they are considering an appeal for witnesses on the BBC's Crimewatch programme.

However, yesterday a police spokesman declined to comment on reports that a 14-year-old youth had been questioned in connection with a missing knife. It is understood the boy had shown the knife off to friends after receiving it as a Christmas present, but it has since disappeared.


Where did the above info come from?

Were Corinne Mitchell or her killer son Luke Mitchell telling people the police were looking for a knife when they searched his home on the 4th July 2003 - 11 days before this article

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/11987571.jodis-aunts-make-tv-appeal-to-trace-teenagers-killer/
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2320 on: March 28, 2023, 02:08:09 PM »
15th July 2003

Lothian and Borders police confirmed that they are considering an appeal for witnesses on the BBC's Crimewatch programme.

However, yesterday a police spokesman declined to comment on reports that a 14-year-old youth had been questioned in connection with a missing knife. It is understood the boy had shown the knife off to friends after receiving it as a Christmas present, but it has since disappeared.


What did John F erris and Gordon D ickie tell police about killer Luke Mitchell’s 2002 Christmas present ie; his Jack Pyke knife?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2321 on: March 28, 2023, 02:09:13 PM »
15th July 2003

Lothian and Borders police confirmed that they are considering an appeal for witnesses on the BBC's Crimewatch programme.

However, yesterday a police spokesman declined to comment on reports that a 14-year-old youth had been questioned in connection with a missing knife. It is understood the boy had shown the knife off to friends after receiving it as a Christmas present, but it has since disappeared.


What was Kim T’s evidence regarding her then boyfriend Luke Mitchell’s 2002 Christmas presents
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2322 on: March 28, 2023, 02:12:01 PM »
Luke Mitchell

Quote
I shouted to the others but I couldn't tell them I'd found Jodi because I didn't want to upset her gran, but she said she wanted to come over the wall

The others held her back but she scrambled over the wall and said if her granddaugher was there she wanted to be with her

She sat down beside Jodi and cradled her in her arms

Did Grace McLean speak with the police regarding what Mitchel told her?

On what date did killer Luke Mitchell tell Grace McLean Alice Walker had ‘cradled her in her arms ’?

And did Grace McLean give evidence during the trial or make a statement?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2323 on: March 28, 2023, 02:23:36 PM »
Here is the article from the Daily Mail dated 22nd January 2005. The story broke the previous evening.


Byline: GRACE MCLEAN

A TEENAGER last night told how killer Luke Mitchell held a knife to her throat just a month before he killed and mutilated girlfriend Jodi Jones.

Mitchell, then only 14 years old, pulled on a balaclava, grabbed Kara van Nuil from behind and warned her not to move as he pressed the blade to her neck.

Last night she said: 'I was absolutely terrified. He was so strong. I didn't hear him coming. He just came up behind me, grabbed me around the neck with one arm and held the knife with the other.

'He told me: "Move and you are f***ing dead".' Miss van Nuil, now 17, met Mitchell at the Army Cadet HQ in Bonnyrigg, Midlothian, when she joined his cadet unit in February, 2002.

They started dating a few weeks later, even though Mitchell was already going out with Jodi and seeing another girl, Kimberley Thomson, in Perthshire.

Miss van Nuil told how she was at first mesmerised by Mitchell and how he wooed her with romantic text messages.

But she brought the relationship to an end after he followed her into the cadet hut one night and threatened her with the knife. She told the Scottish Daily Mail: 'He used to wear a balaclava and pull it up over his head like a hat.

'We were at cadets in May when I went into the hut on my own. The instructors were out having a cigarette with the other cadets. I was messing about with the blackboard and I didn't hear Luke coming but there was suddenly an arm around my neck.

'I got a glimpse of him as I looked back and he had pulled his balaclava over his face. He then put a knife to my throat and said I would be dead if I moved an inch.

'I was really scared and couldn't move.

He was so strong. I couldn't move my arms but I kept nipping his knees with my fingernails and begging him to let me go. He kept me like that for about a minute.

'When he put the knife down I turned to face him and he said, "I'm sorry, I'm sorry." He tried to pretend it was a joke but my neck was red and I was genuinely scared. I was crying my eyes out.' Mitchell never returned to cadets after the attack. A month later he strangled 14-year- old Jodi and cut her throat.

Miss van Nuil regrets not telling her parents Angela, 39, and Bill, 55, about the attack until after the murder.

She said: 'I never knew Jodi but when I found out Luke was her boyfriend I knew straight away that he had done it. I told my dad what happened in the cadet hut and he called the police.

'They came around and took hours of statements but I was never called to court.

'I'm so relieved - I couldn't have faced him in the court. I'm so sorry for what happened to Jodi. When it first happened, I used to feel such guilt and think "that could have been me".' Miss van Nuil, of Gorebridge, Midlothian, said: 'We never met anywhere but cadets, so I only saw him on Monday and Wednesday nights - I suppose because he was going out with Jodi.

'One of my friends said he had five girls on the go but I didn't care because I was crazy about him. He was so polite. I suspected he might have been a bit of a geek. But he always sent me lovely text messages.' But Miss van Nuil said she also saw flashes of his temper: 'One time he was on the shooting range and got told off by one of the instructors. All of a sudden he shouted something, threw down his gun and stormed off.

'There were other times, too. If someone so much as criticised him, he would lose his temper and shout and swear at them.' After the knife attack, she dumped Mitchell. But two days after he was first questioned about Jodi's murder, Miss van Nuil saw him walking down her street. She said: 'I was looking out the window. He was parading around like a cockerel. His friends all came out and started hugging him as if he was a hero.

'I was terrified. I hid behind the curtain, shaking, and hoped he would not see me.' Last night Miss Van Nuil broke down in tears on hearing the verdict.

'I'm just so happy,' she said. 'It's been a long wait and now it's all over.

I feel that I can finally rest easy.' Her mother, Angela, added: 'We're relieved that justice has been done for Jodi and pleased because we knew all along that he had done this.' It has emerged that at least one other girl also suffered a terrifying ordeal at Mitchell's hands.

The girl, who was just 11 at the time, was visiting Mitchell's father Philip, a family friend.

Mitchell, who was only 12, was also staying in the house in Livingston and the two youngsters were sharing a twin bedroom.

In the middle of the night, he climbed on top of her, held a knife to her throat and demanded she kiss him. Last night she said: 'I just can't tell you how I feel about the verdict.'

g.mclean@dailymail.co.uk


http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-127809847.html

Did they mean 2003?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2324 on: March 28, 2023, 02:26:50 PM »
Byline: GRACE MCLEAN

A TEENAGER last night told how killer Luke Mitchell held a knife to her throat just a month before he killed and mutilated girlfriend Jodi Jones.

Mitchell, then only 14 years old, pulled on a balaclava, grabbed Kara van Nuil from behind and warned her not to move as he pressed the blade to her neck.

Last night she said: 'I was absolutely terrified. He was so strong. I didn't hear him coming. He just came up behind me, grabbed me around the neck with one arm and held the knife with the other.

'He told me: "Move and you are f***ing dead".' Miss van Nuil, now 17, met Mitchell at the Army Cadet HQ in Bonnyrigg, Midlothian, when she joined his cadet unit in February, 2002.

They started dating a few weeks later, even though Mitchell was already going out with Jodi and seeing another girl, Kimberley Thomson, in Perthshire.

Miss van Nuil told how she was at first mesmerised by Mitchell and how he wooed her with romantic text messages.

But she brought the relationship to an end after he followed her into the cadet hut one night and threatened her with the knife. She told the Scottish Daily Mail: 'He used to wear a balaclava and pull it up over his head like a hat.

'We were at cadets in May when I went into the hut on my own. The instructors were out having a cigarette with the other cadets. I was messing about with the blackboard and I didn't hear Luke coming but there was suddenly an arm around my neck.

'I got a glimpse of him as I looked back and he had pulled his balaclava over his face. He then put a knife to my throat and said I would be dead if I moved an inch.

'I was really scared and couldn't move.

He was so strong. I couldn't move my arms but I kept nipping his knees with my fingernails and begging him to let me go. He kept me like that for about a minute.

'When he put the knife down I turned to face him and he said, "I'm sorry, I'm sorry." He tried to pretend it was a joke but my neck was red and I was genuinely scared. I was crying my eyes out.' Mitchell never returned to cadets after the attack. A month later he strangled 14-year- old Jodi and cut her throat.

Psycho killer Luke Mitchell attacked Kara Van Null with a knife in his hand a month before he committed his murder

Sandra Lean may have told her daughters this kind of behaviour is okay but in reality it’s a massive red flag

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