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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #975 on: November 01, 2022, 07:26:28 PM »
Sandra Lean
Mandy Jamieson Every big, public event/campaign is another "drop in the bucket" - that bucket's getting pretty full now - not long until it spills over and washes everything out into the open!!!



Wonder what Corinne Mitchell made of Sandra Lean’s latest video
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #976 on: November 01, 2022, 07:28:16 PM »
Sandra Lean
Kirsty Smith I know, sometimes, the more you know, the more frustrating it becomes, since it all seems so obviously wrong, there's a sense that "they" should be paying attention now and doing something to put it right.
But, as I've pointed out so many times, it's going to be up to US to force them to act - they'll never do it of their own accord.
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #977 on: November 01, 2022, 08:01:20 PM »

What date did Richard Hopkins travel to Scotland?


Has pretend criminologist Sandra lean ever been involved in a police murder investigation like this?

Sandra Lean
Geraldine Dunn Knowing what we now know, then looking back at that article, you're left wondering, how in the name of all things sane did they get away with this in plain sight.
We're not looking at anything Satanic, but our final case will be that it was a murder influenced by someone obsessed by satanism. We've got no confirmed sightings, no, wait, we've got two, so, at trial, we won't bother with them and we'll use the one we discounted as unconfirmed at the time.



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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #978 on: November 01, 2022, 08:07:17 PM »
Sans Howie
Can I ask Sandra Lean, was there records kept of all the 500 calls from members of the public? wonder if police picked and chose which ones were relevant to their case and not to the truth x

Sandra Lean
Sans Howie They will have been logged somewhere, but, knowing now what an absolute mess the recording of information was, I'd hate to be the one who had to find them. But we also know they were picking and choosing who to take statements from and who to ignore - can't imagine they'd have treated the phone calls any differently.
I know of several people who called in but never got a call back or a visit to give a statement.



Was Derek Edmond one of these people Sandra Lean?
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #979 on: November 01, 2022, 08:36:44 PM »
The police have recently been referred to as ‘dirty perverts’ for apparently questioning Luke Mitchell on his ‘sex life’

Does Sandra Lean explore in her book how and why police might do this ?

Did Sandra Lean ever explain to her ‘flying monkey’ Sharon Indy sunshine why the killer was asked these questions?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #980 on: November 01, 2022, 08:41:01 PM »
Has anyone read this book? 

Whatever you might or might not  think about Sandra, the book gives a lot of detail, and I would recommend it.

I would be very interested to read a book by someone who believes Luke is guilty, but , as far as I'm aware, nobody has written one!

Maybe Janine or [Name removed] will write one
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #981 on: November 01, 2022, 08:42:28 PM »
Sandra Lean
Mandy Jamieson Every big, public event/campaign is another "drop in the bucket" - that bucket's getting pretty full now - not long until it spills over and washes everything out into the open!!!



Wonder what Corinne Mitchell made of Sandra Lean’s latest video

Are they still keeping up the pretence
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #982 on: November 01, 2022, 09:11:06 PM »
Geraldine Dunn
As of the 7th July No confirmed sightings of Jodi after she left her home and that includes AB statement , their star witness was a nothing witness on the 7th July and yet the jury were asked to assume that her sighting was Jodi and Luke when the police themselves seen it as irrelevant .  Notice the clothing they describe Jodi wearing supported by the  reconstruction no mention of those boot leg denims in that description, no wander the woman didn't pick Luke out at court she knew it was not him even accepting that she has no idea how  she did not pick out that Deftones Hoody considering her clothes description was detailed I can understand why she found it hard to explain how she missed that black detailed hoody  Jodi was wearing , thats because AB did not see Luke and Jodi.  And all that talk of Satanism and black magic a no goer either yet it didn't stop them blackening the character of Luke at trial and taking up days of evidence watching a video which had no substance or relation to Luke or the murder (and people wonder why it was the longest trial ever ) As for Moped boys after cleaning themselves up , getting rid of their bike , changing their appearance, going in to hiding for days when the police are appealing for them to come forward (why did none of Jodi family or extended family tell the cops it was JF and GD they must have known it was them , unbelievable . ✌


Sandra Lean
Geraldine Dunn Knowing what we now know, then looking back at that article, you're left wondering, how in the name of all things sane did they get away with this in plain sight.
We're not looking at anything Satanic, but our final case will be that it was a murder influenced by someone obsessed by satanism. We've got no confirmed sightings, no, wait, we've got two, so, at trial, we won't bother with them and we'll use the one we discounted as unconfirmed at the time.


“We have found no link between Jodi’s death and anything connected with Satanism or black magic. It is not an avenue of inquiry we are following”

Yet

It is not an avenue of inquiry we are following - yet

But after the 7th of July they ended up finding a satanism connection

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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #983 on: November 01, 2022, 09:21:14 PM »
Teenie Fin
I've always wondered who was giving the papers all the information they were printing, I mean I honestly can't think of any other crime like it where the papers were getting so much info during an ongoing investigation. Or is that just me?

Sandra Lean
Teenie Fin It was circular - they have the cheek to accuse defence teams of carrying out "fishing expeditions," yet what we had here was a police investigation dropping snippets to the media (as they always did/do), then the media running to locals with those snippets, to add arms and legs and wings and tails, then feed them back to the police investigation.
Exactly what you'd expect from a fishing expedition - throw out the bait, wait, reel in the catch, rinse and repeat.
Defence teams - and certainly appeals teams - have no such luxury - they have to go begging for the barest of information, yet they're the ones accused of embarking on fishing expeditions. Make of that.....
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #984 on: November 02, 2022, 09:15:43 PM »
How was pretend criminologist Sandra Lean able to look at the case papers recently if she handed them all back last year?

27th June 2021
“I do want to put it on public record that if anything goes into the public domain before the papers are collected from me it will not be me who put them there no I will not have given my agreement for anything to go out I will not do that

So on Wednesday the 30th of June after the case papers have been collected I will no longer be associated with Luke’s case in any professional capacity because decisions taken about the direction of the campaign can’t be reconciled with the work that I do


https://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2021/07/04/transcript-of-sandra-leans-27th-june-2021-live-facebook-video-exit-speech/
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #985 on: November 02, 2022, 09:30:04 PM »
Sandra Lean stated to James English in 2019

“..because if people are going to write this rubbish knowing that people believe it
I think it’s worth remembering the one day this could be a member of their family that this stuff getting written about and people are believing - you know it’s been a bug bear of mine for all these years”


More barefaced lies

 *&^^&

Sandra Lean
If it helps, I can give a synopsis of what the revision to the Simon Hall chapter in No Smoke would have comprised, and why:

”In August 2013, it was reported that Simon Hall had confessed to the murder, in what many considered questionable circumstances, after ten years of maintaining his innocence. Some observers (including Simon's family) expressed concerns about Simon's mental health immediately prior to, and at the time of, the confession (a suicide attempt in the months before, for example.)

The confession and the circumstances in which it was made, have never been made public. There were other suicide attempts, the last being in February 2014, when he was found dead in his cell. The confession, whether reliable or not, does not alter the fact that the case on which the conviction was founded was extremely weak, and fell far below the standards most of us would expect when a life sentence is the potential outcome of proceedings.

There can be no doubt that the confession shocked those fighting claimed cases of Miscarriage of Justice, and raised serious questions about whether those fights should continue. However, where the fight is based on the evidence of the case as used at trial and in subsequent appeal proceedings, and that evidence is not robust enough to justify the convictions obtained, then the fight must continue, in the name of true justice.

We will never know if Simon Hall’s confession was genuine, or the confused utterings of a crumbling sanity. The decision about whether to take up, or continue to carry, the baton for claimed Miscarriages of Justice is a matter for the person deciding to do so, and their own conscience.

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8086.msg382961.html#msg382961

And the following year (2018) came the second innocence fraud book - with-out revising or withdrawing the first book

 *&^^&
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #986 on: November 02, 2022, 09:41:55 PM »
Was there ever any evidence to back up hoaxer Sandra Lean’s claims that the police “handed them an innocent explanation” regarding the borrowing of t-shirts or did [Name removed] borrow the t-shitt on the Sunday morning and wore it again on the Monday after school

“Is it possible that [Name removed] borrowed her sister t-shirt” - ‘course it was!

 *&^^&

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fqQ7lnucUMI

Plus the sadistic killer was the first to tell the police about the borrowed t-shirt
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #987 on: November 02, 2022, 09:47:52 PM »
James English asked Sandra Lean about the “inappropriate relationship’ between mother and son

What about Enmeshment between adoptee Corinne Mitchell and her sexually aggressive teenager son
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #988 on: November 02, 2022, 10:14:50 PM »
Where was killer Simon Hall living up until the 15th December 2001

Where was ‘home’?

He hated being in his adoptive parents home

Read more in The Truth Behind Killer Simon Hall & His Enablers #InnocenceFraud Phenomenon Scam blog series http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/the-truth-behind-killer-simon-hall-and-his-enablers-innocence-fraud-phenomenon-scam-%ef%b8%8f/

Were you actually attempting to insinuate this in your latest video re: [Name removed] Sandra Lean ?

 *&^^&

Where did sadistic killer Luke Mitchell tell the police the taxi driver dropped [Name removed] off to on the Saturday night?
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #989 on: November 02, 2022, 10:39:30 PM »
Who’s idea was it to label Andrina Bryson the ‘prosecutions star witness’?

Why could someone like Leonard Kelly not have been the ‘prosecutions star witness’ for example?

“I thought it was two laddies fighting. I was alarmed at the sound as it gave me a fright so I just slowed down and kept listening”

“I thought somebody had somebody in a headlock. It was a strangling sort of sound - a human

'It was a human sound, a restriction. It sounded like a gargling restriction of somebody's throat”

“The fact is it gave me a fright. The fact is I didn't look. That's it”


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