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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1141 on: November 20, 2022, 01:10:37 AM »

The same Graham Mann who door stepped Andrina Bryson with fantasist and abuser Scott Forbes

I don’t believe AB agreed to meet with these two blaggers. Scott Forbes is a compulsive liar

In 2010, solicitor, Graham Mann and myself tracked Ms Bryson to a house in Newtongrange. After making inquiries at her old property, she called our office. She was angry that we were trying to trace her but agreed to meet with us.

We assured her we only wished to ask a few questions regarding the identification of Luke Mitchell. When we arrived at her home, her husband and mother-in-law were in attendance. They were angry that we had been looking for them and Graham Mann reminded them that it was our job. Ms Bryson was as nervous a witness I had ever come across.

We asked why she couldn’t pick Luke out in court considering the detailed description she had given of the man she had seen and subsequently able to identify from a photo. She wasn't sure, so I asked her if Luke had changed appearance, size, or weight from the alleged sighting to him appearing in court. Before Ms Bryson could answer me, her mother in-law interrupted by stating, “that's it, that's it finished, no more questions.”  We asked the reason why, but the meeting was quite obviously over.  Ms Bryson has since moved to Australia, and it is my understanding she was again very nervous when she was tracked down in 2021 for the TV series
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It is NOT the ‘job’ of any lawyer to attempt to intimidate witnesses

Re Graham Mann

[103] It is disappointing that the appellant's agents should have written such an offensive letter. The writer's remark about the advocate depute was disgraceful. He could have pursued the question of consulting with Dr Turner by a simple letter written with the courtesy that any responsible lawyer would show in such circumstances..

https://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/search-judgments/judgment?id=ea6e86a6-8980-69d2-b500-ff0000d74aa7

Does anyone know if Graham Mann’s behaviour has ever been reported or investigated?
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1142 on: November 20, 2022, 09:34:05 AM »
Luke said nothing of the sort and even if he had I could not have accepted such an instruction I’ve explained before that the difficulties with making public certain documents so not only would putting some of those documents in the public domain be an offence in Scotland it would also have or could also have an impact on Luke’s case in the future on my professional position and on the other cases that I work with
https://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2021/07/04/transcript-of-sandra-leans-27th-june-2021-live-facebook-video-exit-speech/

“My professional position” as an innocence fraud pusher and hoaxer

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I did what I set out to do and that’s incredible that is an absolutely fantastic feeling

Malignant narcissist Sandra Lean ‘set out’ to con people

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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1143 on: November 20, 2022, 02:53:33 PM »
I mentioned recently to Mr Forbes, who I see by the latest report in the media has increased his 6yr lie to 12yrs now of being Mitchell's lawyer, that his continuous evasion of the evidence will not make it disappear, that without any doubt he appears to actually know very little himself - Specifically chosen it would seem to be the full-on voice of Mitchell in this full-blown smear campaign. Where piece by piece he is in fact exposing this farce yet simply too dim to see this it would seem. I feel Ms Lean is going to soon run out of "He is simply mistaken -------------"

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you come across as you do. ...yourself and our **** appear to work in concert and display a frightening lack of understanding of crime. A couple of gossips. The knife was found in a skip, were Joe J and [Name removed] frequented, in a skip the man seen running from the murder scene was heading towards. Police forensics teams searched for the tip of the knife. The knife there after 'disappeared'. But ill let our **** to make up nonsense and gossip.

Wouldn’t be at all surprised if we come to learn Nicky Mac and her boyfriend Scott Forbes ‘work in concert’

And the pair of them appear to be on something

Wonder why killer Luke Mitchell and his cruel and callous mother Corinne Mitchell decided to dispose of con-artist Sandra last year and choose this ‘dangerous clown’ ?

Sandra Lean - 27th June 2021
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So to the statement I’m not gonna address the whole thing because there’s no need I think the message was fairly self evident erm I spoke with Luke the day before this statement was posted and a great deal of what was in the statement didn’t come up in that conversation at all and what did come up wasn’t discussed in the tone or the interpretation that the statement would suggest so yet it came as a little bit of a surprise to me as well the day after erm I’d had a conversation with Luke I knew decisions were being taken about the direction of the campaign but not anything like what was said in the statement
https://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2021/07/04/transcript-of-sandra-leans-27th-june-2021-live-facebook-video-exit-speech/


Hoaxer Sandra Lean has known for years what cruel and callous Corinne Mitchell is really all about - just like Stephanie Bon knew regarding the Hall family. As did people like Phoebe Grant.

Phoebe Grant on killer Simon Hall’s mother Lynne Hall  - August 2009
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You’re (sic) mother has always thought she was the victim in all of this. Always always. But I can’t believe she’s actually playing that card to you. Wrong and unforgivable
http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/06/14/quite-a-hall-tale-part-12a%ef%b8%8f-2/
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1144 on: November 20, 2022, 03:28:27 PM »
Sandra Lean - 27th June 2021
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So I’ve explained before the difference between what families want to do and what I in my professional capac capacity can do in these cases and I totally understand the anger and frustration that people experience when I say things like we can’t do this or we can’t say that or we can’t do it this way or the consequences if we do it that way will be I I fully fully understand that but it’s always conveyed with the best interests of the convicted person at heart both now and in the future and and that’s I’m continually thinking where will this go in 5 years 10 years or whatever
http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2021/07/04/transcript-of-sandra-leans-27th-june-2021-live-facebook-video-exit-speech/

And it wasn’t about killer Luke Mitchell or any other killer, rapist or their family members

This was ALL about malignant narcissist Sandra Lean

And the only ‘professional capacity’ Sandra Lean has is that of a ‘professional’ con-artist and hoaxer!
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1145 on: November 21, 2022, 11:13:39 AM »
Sandra Lean - 27th June 2021
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So I’ve explained before the difference between what families want to do and what I in my professional capac capacity can do in these cases and I totally understand the anger and frustration that people experience when I say things like we can’t do this or we can’t say that or we can’t do it this way or the consequences if we do it that way will be I I fully fully understand that but it’s always conveyed with the best interests of the convicted person at heart both now and in the future and and that’s I’m continually thinking where will this go in 5 years 10 years or whatever
http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2021/07/04/transcript-of-sandra-leans-27th-june-2021-live-facebook-video-exit-speech/


What would the ‘consequences’ be Sandra Lean
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1146 on: November 21, 2022, 12:26:00 PM »

it is the MSP's who are being blasted

Journalist turned MSP Russell Findlay wrote the following http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1049.msg29979#msg29979

Russell Findlay also wrote and published an article headed “Miscarriages of justice charity stripped of lottery funding“ which suggested Mr Findlay had been in direct contact with Sandra Lean - or at least received a statement from her (either directly from her or passed on from her by someone else)

MOJO Scotland were - according to Sandra Lean - ‘giving people false hope’  ⬇️

2019

Dr Sandra Lean said it was "really exciting" when MOJO asked to get involved with Luke Mitchell case two years ago.

Mitchell was jailed for the 2003 murder of Jodi Jones, 14, but continues to protest his innocence.

Lean said: "It was really exciting news. It looked like the case was getting picked up again, it looked like there was going to be some real progress here."

However, last month Mitchell's mother Corinne blasted MOJO for "doing nothing" since taking on her son's case and recovered his case files from their office.

Lean told STV News: "Part of the problem was the promises being made were not being kept. The case review itself was something of a farce. There was no central strategy. There was no planned route to how this review was going to take place.

"The idea of having the Luke Mitchell case, this huge case on their books, was good publicity for them."

The campaigners say that the alleged failings may have harmed Mitchell's case.

Lean added: "I was going to say it's a disaster but if they're not doing the work, they're giving false hope to people and that, in the circumstances these people are in, that it shocking, that is dreadful.

Russell Findlay also wrote and published articles on psychopathic killers Joe Steeel and Thomas Campbell claiming they didn’t commit the crimes https://twitter.com/RussellFindlay1/status/1145689825447763968

Neither convicted killers ever proved their actual, factual innocence!

”Foolish Stuart Dempsey Follow’s Toxic Abuser Michelle Moore & ‘Balls Of Steel’ Scott Forbes..”
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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/11/01/killer-luke-mitchell-foolish-stuart-dempsey-follows-toxic-abuser-michelle-moore-balls-of-steel-scott-forbes-part-113/

Russell Findlay also wrote and published the innocence fraud grift of David Wilson on Margaret McLaughlin’s killer George Beattie (the case/campaign has all the usual hallmarks/red flags)

As previously referred to in the post below

David Wilson - another grifter involved with the ‘innocence’ movement (‘friendly’ with Jerry Buting) has previously attempted to do this with a couple of cases, maybe more

David Wilson was involved in a TV show where he attempted to suggest another convicted killer was responsible for the murder of Carl Bridgewater

Carl Bridgewater’s killers had their conviction deemed ‘unsafe’ by the court of appeal

None of the 4 men ever cleared their names - regardless of what MSM reported

But the ‘innocence’ movement pretended otherwise, as did David Wilson

David Wilson has also written a book about Margaret McLaughlin‘s killer and apparently, according to Libby Brooks, the book claims David Wilson has ‘identified a more likely suspect in the killing’

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Russell Findlay possibly duped by David Wilson’s word play ?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jun/10/scottish-tory-msp-george-beattie-case-scotland

Lots of people can and do get sucked into the very real innocence fraud phenomenon grift - reasons vary

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/narcos-scotland-glasgow-ice-cream-24129341

And not all people who promote these innocence frauds are motivated by alleged altruism and honesty or because of their alleged knowledge on killers
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1147 on: November 21, 2022, 12:57:08 PM »
Specifically chosen it would seem to be the full-on voice of Mitchell in this full-blown smear campaign. Where piece by piece he is in fact exposing this farce yet simply too dim to see this it would seem. I feel Ms Lean is going to soon run out of "He is simply mistaken -------------"

Sandra Lean
‘We need men (and women) of independent mind. Thank you Scott Forbes - for never bowing to their tinsel show!!!’


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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1148 on: November 21, 2022, 02:52:54 PM »
Sandra Lean
I just wanted to say a massive thank you to everyone who came along for yesterday's petition handover and vigil. It was amazing to meet everyone and to see all your posters and banners - you did Luke proud. It was a dignified, respectful event and a number of passing members of the public stopped to chat and find out more.
Thanks, too, to everyone who's shared and commented on social media - getting the word out to those who don't know yet is every bit as important!!!
Another huge milestone met and passed. We're getting there!!!


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The petition won’t make any difference. There’s been ‘no milestone’ met or ‘passed’

There won’t be an independent review

This isn’t about killer Luke Mitchell and his mother Corinne

This is all about Sandra Lean (and to a lesser degree - Scott Forbes)

It’s about Sandra Lean’s ‘work’ - similar to Stephanie Bon’s ‘work’

People like Sandra Lean lie with ease. Stephanie Bon wasn’t much different;


Stephanie Bon - February 2013
My only interest in Simon’s case is and always has been to see justice be done for Mrs Albert
I feel that malicious gossip and bad press did not help Simon when he was first arrested and to replicate it on a website to help free him just doesn’t make sense to me
It is a shame that J4S had to be taken down as it had a lot of supportive messages from people to Simon as well as a lot of good press showing support and progress and also the turnaround of people’s opinion back then, despite the allegations made by mrs h, it did help Simon and brought attention to his case
I am disappointed that Simon didn’t feel he could share his latest revelation with me at the time I started J4S or during my work campaigning as I would definitely have advised him to seek the best advise and own up to the appropriate people as opposed to being speculated and gossiped about until it got leaked on a public forum
Despite mrs h’s allegations, Simon did not disclose this information to me as he well knows

https://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/06/11/quite-a-hall-tale-part-10b%EF%B8%8F/

Stephanie Bon didn’t care about Joan Albert. She didn’t know her and had never met her.

Stephanie Bon bare faced lied about killer Simon Hall’s ‘latest revelation’ (the Zenith burglary) - just like Sandra Lean lies about facts to do with killer Luke Mitchell and Corinne and Shane Mitchell

Sandra Lean’s behaviour resembles Stephanie Bon’s behaviour

Stephanie Bon - 4th February 2013
If you ask your husband, he will tell you that he brought 2 cd players to my house when we were going out after he had disappeared for a weekend and noone knew where he was. He’d been nicked for the night but this was way before Joan was murdered, nothing to do with the case, so do you want to add another robbing to the list? maybe he’s lying to you? My brother was there and other people saw them, I went mental and threw them out! You stupid cow, are you going to announce another f..k up of his publicly? Shall i? unlike you, its not Simon i want to damage, its you! (sic)


Sandra Lean’s abuse and attacks of JuJ’s are also all about Sandra Lean (See through in her last video)

Killer Simon Hall may have told Stephanie Bon ‘he’d been nicked for the night’ when he chose to commit his murder but if true, why did Stephanie Bon choose to keep this from Suffolk police during their investigation?

And why didn’t Stephanie Bon tell the police about the ‘2 cd players’ ?

People lie. Even during murder investigations. Motivations vary

But Sandra Lean’s abuse and attacks of the Jones/Walker family have been (and are) deplorable

Copy of chapter from Sandra Leans first discredited book
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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/11/20/copy-of-chapter-5-from-sandra-leans-1st-discredited-book-smoke-mirrors-promoting-the-innocence-fraud-phenomenon-of-guilty-killer-simon-hall/

The story about forensics not having been carried out before liar Lynne Hall went to look around the house was also concocted

As was the treading in glass nonsense
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1149 on: November 21, 2022, 03:45:42 PM »
Biffy Mackay (Today)
Has stocky man been named publicly??

Ellen Barclay
yes Scott forbes says more then Dr Sandra Lean book . .Dr Sandra Lean couldn't say in her book as we're Scott forbes can say more .think we should gave both books too scottish parliament library of they have one .


Does Ellen know the real reason why Sandra Lean didn’t say in her book

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Freddie Gren
It's difficult we can't say names on the group due to the rules


But they can post links ‘on the group’ where innocent names are used

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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1150 on: November 21, 2022, 04:03:02 PM »
And the latest BS on an alleged knife blade

Did Sandra Lean write about this in her 2nd book?

Today - Edinburgh live
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”Tom’s motor repair site at Newbattle Home Farm, Midlothian, was around 500 yards from where her mutilated body was found 19 years ago.

The car mechanic is now speaking out now after recently finding out the blade was not even submitted as evidence during the trial…

Speaking, to the Scottish Sun Tom said: “We had a skip for our scrap metal at the top of the farm buildings

Tom, who stays in nearby Mayfield, continued: “The next morning two vans and various cars were there when I came to open the garage.

“There were about ten officers, some in forensic suits, emptying the skip to try to find the broken tip.

“I read the brand name on the knife and checked online. I found an exact match, and it was very expensive.”

At the time, a field next to Tom’s garage was used by teenage mechanic apprentices for racing stock cars.

One of them, now a dad in his mid-30s, said: “We found a knife with blood on it in the skip. We were like, ‘What the f***.’ It was terrible.”

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Emma Johnston
Sandra Lean would that knife even be capable of Inflicting the injuries sustained...from what I have heard and watched wasn't it just a small knife???

Sandra Lean
Emma Johnston The knife of Luke's that they claimed was "missing" wouldn't have been able to inflict those injuries, no. But this knife - the one in the skip, is nothing like the one they used in court (claiming it to be missing). And yes, this knife WOULD be capable, quite definitely.


Psychopathic Killer Robin Garbutt disposed of the weapon he used to murder his wife Diana (while she was asleep) near to where he committed his murder.

The metal scrap heap is possibly where the weapon originated from, but when this killer attempted to throw it back over the wall, it landed on top of it instead of going over the wall and into the scrap metal heap on the other side

There are pictures of the wall in Neil Wilby’s blog - the scrap metal heap cannot be seen in the photos
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’Dr Truthseeker loses her moral compass’

https://neilwilby.com/2020/06/22/dr-truthseeker-loses-her-moral-compass/

Sandra Lean may have known this from Jane Metcalfe - who has been (and is being) groomed, conned and exploited by many people - including by Sandra Lean and Michael Naughton from Bristol uni

But she would certainly have gleaned tidbits and ideas from Neil Wilby’s blogs on Diana Garbutt’s killers crimes and innocence fraud

Latest on this psycho killer and innocence fraudster
”And in Melsonby, analysis of blood spatter found at a crime scene revealed the truth behind a husband’s lies.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001f8gg/ad/expert-witness-series-2-5-body-in-the-woods-and-murder-at-the-post-office
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1151 on: November 21, 2022, 05:49:53 PM »
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Tom, who now works as a bathroom designer and fitter, has no connection with Mitchell, 34, apart from repairing his family’s car.

But he doesn’t believe the caged murderer killed Jodi.

He said: “Nobody placed any importance on that knife.

“When I learned it wasn’t documented, it raised my suspicions the police may  have tried to conceal the discovery.”

What year did Tom Halliday claim to have repaired ‘the family’s car’?

And has Tom ever met Stuart Dempsey - who also fits bathrooms
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1152 on: November 21, 2022, 06:01:15 PM »
Pamela Wilson (Today)
6 hours ago (edited)
Maybe i missed something..but the guy that shaved his head so he didn't look like 'The killer' ...how did he know at that point what the killer looked like?..This case is just mental, poor Luke .

Scott Forbes
2 hours ago
Same guy scrapping moped, his mum and half sister burning clothes, he tells cops that Alice W told him not to go forward and then gets threatened by Judith and Alice with Joe and forced to leave Dalkieth.[/color

Transcript of Interview with James Matthews - SKY News on 3rd September 2003
JAMES MATTHEWS:   This burning of clothes keeps getting mentioned and there is also the subject of a missing knife, is that your missing knife?
LUKE:   No.  The burning clothes that wasn’t us.  They just stated that a female relative of the suspect admitted to burning clothes.



JAMES MATTHEWS:   Was that you or anyone connected to you?
LUKE:   No, not that we know of.
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1153 on: November 21, 2022, 06:10:53 PM »
Scott Forbes
1 month ago
Massive break through in this case: Headlines coming soon 👏👏👏👏👏👏

Scott Forbes
9 days ago
 @D Xz  I've been advised Monday. There had to be legal checks done. 🔪 🗡


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cyber nat
@Scott Forbes   didnt sk state online that police took his clothes that night?

Scott Forbes
2 hours ago
 @cyber nat  again your spreading lies. Alice Walker washed SK clothes along with Jannies.


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So many things Lean claims keep getting contradicted by people who were actually there at the time...
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1154 on: November 21, 2022, 07:12:48 PM »
June 2019 - Edinburgh Live By Alan McEwen and Robert Fairnie - Digitel Journalist
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The blade was discovered buried in a drystone dyke around 300 yards from the scene of the attack

Mitchell is planning to launch a new appeal against his conviction after a member of the public discovered the six-inch blade buried around 300 yards from the scene of the attack

A source told them that in 2015 a local man was digging next to a drystone dyke when they found the knife, with a dark brown wooden handle.

They added: "Stones had been moved from the dyke and put back on top of it. The man, who has no connection to the Mitchells or Joneses and is a local business owner, realised the potential significance.

"He picked it up with pliers and pit it in a freezer bag to preserve it before handing it in to Dalkeith police station . He told them it should be checked out due to the Jodi Jones murder.
https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/luke-mitchell-supporters-want-kitchen-16444615

300 yards now an alleged knife found 500 yards away

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Was the ‘source’ abusive fantasist Scott Forbes or hoaxer Sandra Lean

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