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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1155 on: November 21, 2022, 07:52:37 PM »

Ron M
1 month ago
Scott Forbes you make the point of the horrific injuries that Jodi suffered
The 4 people in the circle and one is dead 
This is just my thoughts those other
3  committed  and or witness a murder
How did those 3 behave after the murder
I am lead to believe that they had no medical  problems caused by that day or new medical issues that would explain something is wrong
This is leading me to believe that those 3 are dangerous with sign's of psychopathy
Their medical file's will prove this
If you Ken what I mean

Ron M
21 hours ago
After great amount of discussion
Those guys that I have  spoke to
Have decided to go after those involved in Jodi's murder there are 5 men  who were over that V  at some point Not including Luke as he is not guilty and was set up
God have mercy on their soul🙏

#33 | Scott Forbes : I Can Prove Luke Mitchell Is Innocent
11,195 views · 1 month ago...more
Premeditated Patter

Has the bloke who runs that YouTube channel reported this and if not why not?

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Offline Parky41

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1156 on: November 21, 2022, 08:45:37 PM »

Ron M
1 month ago
Scott Forbes you make the point of the horrific injuries that Jodi suffered
The 4 people in the circle and one is dead 
This is just my thoughts those other
3  committed  and or witness a murder
How did those 3 behave after the murder
I am lead to believe that they had no medical  problems caused by that day or new medical issues that would explain something is wrong
This is leading me to believe that those 3 are dangerous with sign's of psychopathy
Their medical file's will prove this
If you Ken what I mean

Ron M
21 hours ago
After great amount of discussion
Those guys that I have  spoke to
Have decided to go after those involved in Jodi's murder there are 5 men  who were over that V  at some point Not including Luke as he is not guilty and was set up
God have mercy on their soul🙏

#33 | Scott Forbes : I Can Prove Luke Mitchell Is Innocent
11,195 views · 1 month ago...more
Premeditated Patter

Has the bloke who runs that YouTube channel reported this and if not why not?

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Clearly it is Ron who has some series problems going on upstairs, and no surprise in the slightest that he supports the other one who is the same.

When I read that on You Tube - It spelt the following, an up the ante on the constant abuse from Mr Forbes with his playground behaviour, as with yourself, every poster is applied as being one of the 'others' not to be listened to. I believe I have been JH, someone in the police, but above all someone who appears to be downing buckets of vodka by the minute, whilst on 'mushrooms?' The usual - Cannot prove what is being said around the actual evidence to be wrong, so Mr Forbes simply attacks constantly. He has absolutely no intellectual skills to discuss and debate.

So, this threat of sorts, a 'wee' message from the four corners of 'Glesgi' perhaps. To try and silence the discussion. - The reversal of course of 'There will be those who oppose the truth' to those who are lying constantly being exposed. A poster on the Blue Forum stopped for a while for he had been threatened, such is the level of thugs involved in Mitchell's pleas of innocence. As of course was JH herself. The main support and not of course those who are intelligent enough to have their doubts around realistic areas. Who do not jump from 'guilty by media' to 'Innocence by the same means' to 'Joining in with the smear-campaign'

Dim and dimmer still. I put up what came directly from the Mitchell's, and he applies it as being "drivel" I put up further information, which as you know, some was 'gleamed' from Ms Lean, and he applies "Where are you getting this -----------?" from. For a male who claims to have studied case papers forever, he knows virtually nothing of the actual case itself, of LM V HMA. But alas and is clear, Mr Forbes role is not around LM V HMA, is it?

Mr Forbes takes the bog standard, someone said something as being the only truth, that the actual words were spoken (that is the truth part), and transforms these into something that belongs in a very bad sci fi story!

The knife in the skip, class is it not? - That the police did nothing, just send in a forensic team to rake through a skip looking for the tip. It did not form part of the trial is the astonishment of the male who had the skip? That will be because it was NOT evidence, yielding nothing of any value. But alas and sadly, he has fallen into that fantasy of the police doing nothing with what was not "vital evidence" - The, they only had lies for Luke saga, because they take at face value those promoting a convicted killer as innocent, without being able to prove this at all.

It is a threat still the same - Incited by the disinformation, manipulation and blatant lies of course. But should anything happen to these innocent people - There will be no responsibility taken on board from those promoting the lies--------------


Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1157 on: November 21, 2022, 09:08:34 PM »
Clearly it is Ron who has some series problems going on upstairs, and no surprise in the slightest that he supports the other one who is the same.

When I read that on You Tube

Does this bloke not keep an eye on what’s going on with his channel and the comments being made or is he also part of the problem?

https://twitter.com/InnocenceFraudW/status/1594789010148294656
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1158 on: November 21, 2022, 09:12:36 PM »
When I read that on You Tube - It spelt the following, an up the ante on the constant abuse from Mr Forbes with his playground behaviour, as with yourself, every poster is applied as being one of the 'others' not to be listened to. I believe I have been JH, someone in the police, but above all someone who appears to be downing buckets of vodka by the minute, whilst on 'mushrooms?' The usual - Cannot prove what is being said around the actual evidence to be wrong, so Mr Forbes simply attacks constantly. He has absolutely no intellectual skills to discuss and debate.

Chosen by killer Luke Mitchell and his abusive, lying mother Corinne Mitchell

Would be interested to know how often the killer and Scott Forbes speak to one another/prison visits etc - same applies to Corinne

And what exactly is coming directly from the pair of them and repeated by Forbes
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1159 on: November 21, 2022, 09:21:20 PM »
So, this threat of sorts, a 'wee' message from the four corners of 'Glesgi' perhaps. To try and silence the discussion. -

Wasn’t it the brother (Johnny Boy 🤦‍♀️) of one of the psychopathic killers of James Doyle (53) his daughter Christina Halleron (25) Christina’s 18-month-old son Mark and three of Mr Doyle's sons, James (23) Andrew (18) and Tony (14) who put James English in contact with Sandra Lean or Corinne Mitchell?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1160 on: November 21, 2022, 09:25:30 PM »
The reversal of course of 'There will be those who oppose the truth' to those who are lying constantly being exposed. A poster on the Blue Forum stopped for a while for he had been threatened, such is the level of thugs involved in Mitchell's pleas of innocence. As of course was JH herself. The main support and not of course those who are intelligent enough to have their doubts around realistic areas. Who do not jump from 'guilty by media' to 'Innocence by the same means' to 'Joining in with the smear-campaign'

Dim and dimmer still. I put up what came directly from the Mitchell's, and he applies it as being "drivel" I put up further information, which as you know, some was 'gleamed' from Ms Lean, and he applies "Where are you getting this -----------?" from. For a male who claims to have studied case papers forever, he knows virtually nothing of the actual case itself, of LM V HMA. But alas and is clear, Mr Forbes role is not around LM V HMA, is it?

Scott Forbes is a total moron - as is his girlfriend Nicky Mac (they’ll be a blog on her at some point)

Doubt he’ll be aware of what some us heard/read regarding the Mitchell’s and the things said over the years

Corinne Mitchell was (& is) a liability, as Sandra Lean was well aware of - as was unconvicted child killer Billy Middelton

Forbes appears to be in self destruct mode - although he put on a different face for Russell Findlay and those cameras
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1161 on: November 21, 2022, 09:34:59 PM »
Mr Forbes takes the bog standard, someone said something as being the only truth, that the actual words were spoken (that is the truth part), and transforms these into something that belongs in a very bad sci fi story!

He also appears extremely paranoid as does his girlfriend Nicky Mac

Notice too how pretend ‘criminologist’ Sandra Lean appears to feed into his BS also the ‘sci fi’ stories began with the Mitchell’s and Colin Bowman/Sandra Lean
« Last Edit: November 22, 2022, 01:31:55 AM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1162 on: November 21, 2022, 09:41:56 PM »
The knife in the skip, class is it not? - That the police did nothing, just send in a forensic team to rake through a skip looking for the tip. It did not form part of the trial is the astonishment of the male who had the skip? That will be because it was NOT evidence, yielding nothing of any value. But alas and sadly, he has fallen into that fantasy of the police doing nothing with what was not "vital evidence"

‘Fallen into that fantasy’ or always been in that fantasy?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1163 on: November 21, 2022, 09:44:41 PM »
It is a threat still the same

There will be no responsibility taken on board

Like Corinne Mitchell and her ‘out of control’ killer son Luke Mitchell
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1164 on: November 21, 2022, 10:06:48 PM »
Like Corinne Mitchell and her ‘out of control’ killer son Luke Mitchell

Ana Azaria
Hi Nicola, I'm copying and pasting a previous response from Dr Sandra Lean on this topic, because she explains it better than me - "The age of criminal responsibility in Scotland was 8 in 2003, but the age at which they could be taken to court was 12. Children under 16 could only be taken to court on the instructions of the Lord Advocate. However, children aged 12 - 15 who are accused of committing crimes should be referred to the children's panel as "children in need" (According to ScotGov Child Protection Policy).
Therefore, we can only conclude that there was a direct intervention by the Lord Advocate to divert this case away from all of the child protection policy in existence, in order for Luke to be tried as an adult.
Another consequence of this move was sentencing - Luke no longer had the protection of sentencing restrictions which would have been in place had he been treated as he should have been - a 15 year old accused of a serious crime, rather than a 16 year old - and therefore, he could be subjected to the harshest of ADULT sentences - and he was."

Nicola
Ana Azaria thank you! Our justice system makes me feel sad. Taking a 15 year old to trial as an adult. It's just so bad. Was LM imprisoned in an adult prison? They must have had him on remand and then jailed after the verdict all of which was adult prison and not juvenile until he was legally an adult. Those two 10 year olds were released at 18 having served only 8 years for murder. They should have been put in adult prison but I digress. They're not the topic of the group


Whether this was the case or not - thanks to pretend ‘criminologist’ Sandra Lean many of the people who have been taken in by her nonsense possibly won’t recognise the red flags to look out for when their own partners or children start behaving like killer Luke Mitchell did

And if anyone did intervene it was because they recognised this ‘out of control’ teen killer was (and is) a dangerous psychopath

Wonder if Nicola would feel the same if killer Luke Mitchell did the same to someone she loved as what he did to [Name removed]

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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1165 on: November 21, 2022, 10:58:12 PM »
but above all someone who appears to be downing buckets of vodka by the minute, whilst on 'mushrooms?'

Does he think that squash bottle masks what’s in the bottle?

Do they grow lots of ‘mushrooms’ where he’s from?

Wonder if his medical records show he’s been prescribed methadone?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1166 on: November 21, 2022, 11:02:20 PM »
‘ Truth has to be repeated constantly, because Error also is being preached all the time, and not just by a few, but by the multitude. In the Press and Encyclopaedias, in Schools and Universities, everywhere Error holds sway, feeling happy and comfortable in the knowledge of having Majority on its side.…’ ~ John Wolfgang Goethe

Sandra Lean
This, my good people, is why we have to keep on doing, every hour of every day, what we do. Repeat truth. Sounds easy - it's one of the hardest things you'll ever be called upon to do.


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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1167 on: November 22, 2022, 01:06:27 AM »
People really need to steer clear of this toxic, abusive, manipulative hoaxer and her ‘ramble f..kery’
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https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg390752.html?PHPSESSID=g3ao496973c7bl9a3sto7un7v4#msg390752
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1168 on: November 22, 2022, 01:43:17 AM »
It's interesting how one simply keeps on turning things on to others.

Scott Forbes
9 hours ago
Same guy scrapping moped, his mum and half sister burning clothes, he tells cops that Alice W told him not to go forward and then gets threatened by Judith and Alice with Joe and forced to leave Dalkieth.


In reality

Suspect they scrapped the knives and other bike

We know they were burning something in the garden - clothing more than likely

Suspect Corinne Mitchell was the one to tell her older son Shane Mitchell ‘not to go forward’ and it was Corinne who ‘threatened’ Shane and why ‘he was forced to leave Dalkeith’
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1169 on: November 22, 2022, 01:51:16 AM »
Michael Taylor https://www.facebook.com/michael.taylor123
Innocence Fraud why you trying to shove your opinion down my throat? I don't give a toss what your opinion is as it's clear from just reading one of your blogs you will do/say anything to detract anyone from knowing the truth.

So who are you? Who you trying to protect? Are you the killer or know the killer?

Lengths that family has went too to try hide the truth is unreal. Must be hurting knowing the walls are crumbling down slowly around you.


You seen this 👆🏽 Sandra Lean
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