"Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean

[Nicholas]

Bill (William) Long - psych assessment/report - November 2013

“Mr Hall married in prison in 2007/08 to the woman who, before and since, presented as his champion to the media, the prison system and others, putting forward the case for his innocence and his ‘wrongful imprisonment’.

Bill Long conflated Stephanie Bon and Stephanie (Hall)

[Nicholas]

Bill (William) Long - psych assessment/report - November 2013

“Mr Hall married in prison in 2007/08 to the woman who, before and since, presented as his champion to the media, the prison system and others, putting forward the case for his innocence and his ‘wrongful imprisonment’.

Bill Long conflated Stephanie Bon and Stephanie (Hall)

Bill Long omits to mention Lynne and Phil Hall, Shaun Hall, Jamie Barker, Stephanie Bon, Michael Naughton, Bristol university students, Scott Lomax, Sandra Lean, Billy Middleton, Michael Mansfield, Gabe Tan, Campbell Malone, Corenna Platt, Keir Starmer, Louise Shorter, David McCorkle, Tiernan Coyle, the criminal cases review commission and numerous others involved in the innocence fraud PR campaign and them championing his ‘innocence’ and his wrongful imprisonment’

and zero responsibility lies with killer Simon Hall

The 2007 rough justice TV show is written out of the narrative

Forensic psychologist Bill Long lied and re-wrote history - as did many others

[Nicholas]

John Halley Advocate
@AdvocateHalley
Replying to
@AuldM
@GlasgowAdvocate
 and 6 others
And this was broadcast? What forensic interviewing knowledge did
@jamesmatthewsky
 have? What about an apology from him and
@SkyNews
 for this deplorable interview which clearly violates empirically demonstrated principles of developmentally appropriate questioning for adolescents?
7:01 PM · Dec 17, 2022
https://twitter.com/AdvocateHalley/status/1604190175696920577

John Halley Advocate
@AdvocateHalley
Replying to
@AdvocateHalley
 @AuldM
 and 8 others
E.G:
researchgate.net
(PDF) Testimony and Interrogation of Minors: Assumptions About Maturity and Morality
PDF | This article examines the legal histories and social contexts of testimony and interrogation involving minors, developmental research on... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on...
7:05 PM · Dec 17, 2022

John Halley quoting a bad example using the innocence fraud case of the Central Park 5

Link to article here https://www.researchgate.net/publication/7062342_Testimony_and_Interrogation_of_Minors_Assumptions_About_Maturity_and_Morality

Larry Elder’s latest video on this innocence fraud case of the Central Park 5 worth a listen
👇
https://youtu.be/hwRQztpF6qU

And also worth watching each of the police interviews - which can be found here
👇
https://centralpark5joggerattackers.com/videos/

[Nicholas]

Bill (William) Long - psych assessment/report - November 2013

“Mr Hall married in prison in 2007/08 to the woman who, before and since, presented as his champion to the media, the prison system and others, putting forward the case for his innocence and his ‘wrongful imprisonment’.

Bill Long conflated Stephanie Bon and Stephanie (Hall)

This is a lie as it never happened!

[Nicholas]

Bill (William) Long - psych assessment/report - November 2013

“Mr Hall married in prison in 2007/08 to the woman who, before and since, presented as his champion to the media, the prison system and others, putting forward the case for his innocence and his ‘wrongful imprisonment’.

Bill Long conflated Stephanie Bon and Stephanie (Hall)

Bill Long also omits any and all psychology abuse and harm caused by killer Simon Hall’s actions (murder) and 11 1/2 year long innocence fraud and fraudulent PR campaign

[Parky41]

John Halley Advocate
@AdvocateHalley
Replying to
@AuldM
@GlasgowAdvocate
 and 6 others
And this was broadcast? What forensic interviewing knowledge did
@jamesmatthewsky
 have? What about an apology from him and
@SkyNews
 for this deplorable interview which clearly violates empirically demonstrated principles of developmentally appropriate questioning for adolescents?
7:01 PM · Dec 17, 2022
https://twitter.com/AdvocateHalley/status/1604190175696920577

John Halley Advocate
@AdvocateHalley
Replying to
@AdvocateHalley
 @AuldM
 and 8 others
E.G:
researchgate.net
(PDF) Testimony and Interrogation of Minors: Assumptions About Maturity and Morality
PDF | This article examines the legal histories and social contexts of testimony and interrogation involving minors, developmental research on... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on...
7:05 PM · Dec 17, 2022

John Halley quoting a bad example using the innocence fraud case of the Central Park 5

Link to article here https://www.researchgate.net/publication/7062342_Testimony_and_Interrogation_of_Minors_Assumptions_About_Maturity_and_Morality

Larry Elder’s latest video on this innocence fraud case of the Central Park 5 worth a listen
👇
https://youtu.be/hwRQztpF6qU

And also worth watching each of the police interviews - which can be found here
👇
https://centralpark5joggerattackers.com/videos/

The most interesting part is the blanking of Auld Nicks fantasy! With 'I don't believe there was not a thread of evidence' a close second. Finger in the pie Lean showing face.

There is no combatting the evidence around that Sky interview - Fully actioned and sanctioned by the Mitchells at a time they thought they were in the clear. I mean, how were they know it would all come back to bite them on the a**e. Cock sure and proudly displaying those feathers fully believing his alibi and lack of forensics had sealed that deal for him. Making the day of his victims funeral something he had to be a part of.

They (AD's on Twitter) can give advice and links until the cows come home around child capacity and so forth, legal rights etc etc etc - Done to death already, they bring nothing new to the table.

Dam that parka. - Two friends in Woodburn, a coat taken to eliminate it from the enquiry, to make sure it was NOT the one worn by Mitchell that day. "Hidden" yet another joke. KC one friend who testified to knives and cannabis. LW the other who's house Mitchell spent most of his days in after the murder. Dam right they were of interest where Mitchell was concerned, no different to his fathers house. That jacket without a doubt in their statements - But the fans of Auld Nick in his many guises will soak it up as meaningful, the intellectually inept and that is inclusive of Auld Nick and Lean.

Outstanding work by the police, holding on to absolutely everything for all these years. That list split into three in reality. We have that by the police/Crown of insignificant value needs not be disclosed. We then have the schedule of used and unused fully disclosed. Everything retained way past the legal threshold. - Work of hiding anything? Have a word. 

[Nicholas]

The most interesting part is the blanking of Auld Nicks fantasy! With 'I don't believe there was not a thread of evidence' a close second. Finger in the pie Lean showing face.

There is no combatting the evidence around that Sky interview - Fully actioned and sanctioned by the Mitchells at a time they thought they were in the clear. I mean, how were they know it would all come back to bite them on the a**e. Cock sure and proudly displaying those feathers fully believing his alibi and lack of forensics had sealed that deal for him. Making the day of his victims funeral something he had to be a part of.

They (AD's on Twitter) can give advice and links until the cows come home around child capacity and so forth, legal rights etc etc etc - Done to death already, they bring nothing new to the table.

Dam that parka. - Two friends in Woodburn, a coat taken to eliminate it from the enquiry, to make sure it was NOT the one worn by Mitchell that day. "Hidden" yet another joke. KC one friend who testified to knives and cannabis. LW the other who's house Mitchell spent most of his days in after the murder. Dam right they were of interest where Mitchell was concerned, no different to his fathers house. That jacket without a doubt in their statements - But the fans of Auld Nick in his many guises will soak it up as meaningful, the intellectually inept and that is inclusive of Auld Nick and Lean.

Outstanding work by the police, holding on to absolutely everything for all these years. That list split into three in reality. We have that by the police/Crown of insignificant value needs not be disclosed. We then have the schedule of used and unused fully disclosed. Everything retained way past the legal threshold. - Work of hiding anything? Have a word.

“Luke Mitchell, who gave the interview on 3 September last year, told the interviewer he had been asked by Jodi's family to stay away from the funeral.

He said: "That was a hard blow. I was dreading going to the funeral but I did want to go and being told not to go, due to the fact it will turn the funeral into a media circus, was bad.

"It would have been a media circus without me but if it's the family's wishes, that's what I was going to do." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4137755.stm

He didn’t though did he

Double binds, boundary violations - and that’s just from Corinne Mitchell

[Nicholas]

And instead of being humiliated he told people (mainly woman) about his alleged vigorous masturbation and insertion of objects into his anus

 

No humiliation in that

 

No humiliation regarding an 11 1/2 year innocence fraud scam

Not one single thought for the woman he murdered or her loved ones who he tormented with his public innocence fraud hoax, enabled by numerous people who lied for him and themselves

Was it mentioned that during some of these disclosures killer Simon Hall claimed to have had an erection

[Nicholas]

And instead of being humiliated he told people (mainly woman) about his alleged vigorous masturbation and insertion of objects into his anus

 

No humiliation in that

 

No humiliation regarding an 11 1/2 year innocence fraud scam

Not one single thought for the woman he murdered or her loved ones who he tormented with his public innocence fraud hoax, enabled by numerous people who lied for him and themselves

And then there are the con-artists like Sandra Lean who attempts to dupe, deceive and exploit anyone who listens to her

Have barely scratched the surface on the innocence fraud

[Nicholas]

Outstanding work by the police, holding on to absolutely everything for all these years. That list split into three in reality. We have that by the police/Crown of insignificant value needs not be disclosed. We then have the schedule of used and unused fully disclosed. Everything retained way past the legal threshold. - Work of hiding anything? Have a word.

What is being hidden is killer Luke Mitchell’s dangerousness and his cold, deceitful and manipulative character

[Nicholas]

What is being hidden is killer Luke Mitchell’s dangerousness and his cold, deceitful and manipulative character

And it’s possible prison staff could be enabling him like in the case of killer Simon Hall

The following was written by an offender supervisor re SH in 2013

“He does not appear to be manipulating the system or staff”

He had manipulated ‘the system and staff’ for around 11 1/2 years
👇
http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/06/11/quite-a-hall-tale-part-10b%ef%b8%8f/

[Nicholas]

And it’s possible prison staff could be enabling him like in the case of killer Simon Hall

The following was written by an offender supervisor re SH in 2013

“He does not appear to be manipulating the system or staff”

He had manipulated ‘the system and staff’ for around 11 1/2 years
👇
http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/06/11/quite-a-hall-tale-part-10b%ef%b8%8f/

And not long after Lynne Hall’s interview with the media in which she stated;

“I’m absolutely shocked because I know he is innocent and I still believe he is.

“But it’s the system. If he had pleaded guilty in the beginning, he would be home now.

“I know he has been really low and in hospital recently. He’s given up.”

“I believe he feels he can’t take any more after all the fight he has put up and how brave he has been”[/color]

https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/21734522.capel-st-mary-simon-halls-mothers-shock-murder-confession/

Killer Simon Hall’s offender supervisor stated;

“He attempted to contact his wife two weeks ago and obviously she wants nothing to do with him. He has also contacted his mother who has also told him the same thing.

[Nicholas]

The following was written by an offender supervisor re SH in 2013

“He does not appear to be manipulating the system or staff”

He had manipulated ‘the system and staff’ for around 11 1/2 years
👇
http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/06/11/quite-a-hall-tale-part-10b%ef%b8%8f/

Killer Simon Hall and his prison solicitor fabricated a Guittard application 

http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/12/18/psychopathic-killer-simon-hall-blog-dated-6th-february-2013/

Prison solicitor David McCorkle attempted to contact killer Simon Hall around this time - presumably concerned about said fabricated Guittard application (which I had objected to at the time ie; the fabrications)

[Nicholas]

Killer Simon Hall and his prison solicitor fabricated a Guittard application 

http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/12/18/psychopathic-killer-simon-hall-blog-dated-6th-february-2013/

Prison solicitor David McCorkle attempted to contact killer Simon Hall around this time - presumably concerned about said fabricated Guittard application (which I had objected to at the time ie; the fabrications)

Killer Simon Hall - February 2013

“My Mum is too sly for that though and other people do her dirty work for her, like Shaun for example. She’s the expert puppet master, pulling strings and controlling people with her crocodile tears and guilt trips”

“People should know that of all of you I am the most sane at the moment”

[Nicholas]

Colin Bowman - 21st November 2010
I apologise for making a post (above) which did not address the thread topic.
My understanding of the Hall case is weak, and am rather improving that understanding by following recents posts on the case and its personalities.
It seems an interesting case, given that it is accepted by some that its circumstantial arguments so depend on what is said about particular fibres; that if that evidence fails, then the whole case falls.
That would be an interesting conception to get into play. Namely that circumstantial prosecutions can have lynch-pin presumptions and intrepretations; such that circumstantially gained convictions can be overturned across identifying and discrediting that lynch pin evidence. So it would contribute to building-up a tool-box of instruments that can be employed to deconstruct circumstantial prosecutions.
colin

Does Colin Bowman no longer post on the forums?

Would be interested to hear his take on the personalities involved in killer Luke Mitchell’s innocence fraud