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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1845 on: February 19, 2023, 07:59:26 AM »
Sandra Lean (2 months ago)
@Raddimus McChoyber  Don't apologise - I think many people don't realise the multiple differences between the two systems. For example, I'm regularly accused of "cherry picking" or "hiding" evidence because I don't put all the statements, transcripts, etc, online, in full. The fact is, in Scotland, I can't. The definition of disclosure of evidence to "third parties" essentially means that evidence can only be disclosed, in full, to those actively working on the case for legal proceedings (e.g. an application to the SCCRC or Court of Appeal) - the general public does not meet the definition of "third party" and disclosure to those people is prohibited. The best I can do is quote excerpts from documents, and even then, it's a fine line


More lies

 *&^^&

Why has this con women never published killer Luke Mitchell’s 22 page statement - which was read out during his trial  -along with the prosecutions opening/closing speech

Along with the judges summing up?

This was a public trial

 (‘The statement, read in court by the detectivehttps://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12409505.boy-friend-tells-how-dog-found-jodi-accused-said-he-recognised-girlfriends-bloody-body/)
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1846 on: February 19, 2023, 08:13:08 AM »
Sandra Lean (2 months ago)
@Raddimus McChoyber  Don't apologise - I think many people don't realise the multiple differences between the two systems. For example, I'm regularly accused of "cherry picking" or "hiding" evidence because I don't put all the statements, transcripts, etc, online, in full. The fact is, in Scotland, I can't. The definition of disclosure of evidence to "third parties" essentially means that evidence can only be disclosed, in full, to those actively working on the case for legal proceedings (e.g. an application to the SCCRC or Court of Appeal) - the general public does not meet the definition of "third party" and disclosure to those people is prohibited. The best I can do is quote excerpts from documents, and even then, it's a fine line


More lies

 *&^^&

Why has this con women never published killer Luke Mitchell’s 22 page statement - which was read out during his -along with the prosecutions opening/closing speech

Along with the judges summing up?

This was a public trial

trial (‘The statement, read in court by the detectivehttps://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12409505.boy-friend-tells-how-dog-found-jodi-accused-said-he-recognised-girlfriends-bloody-body/)

Liar Corinne Mitchell sat beside her killer son while he gave his 22 page written statement

This 22 page statement was read out in open court during the psycho killers trial by a police officer

Note the word ‘written’ statement and no mention of those tape recorders liar Corinne Mitchell referred to - where she said her tape was ‘labelled witness’ and her killer sons ‘tape’ was ‘labelled suspect’

What ‘tapes’ were you referring to Corinne?

(Lies to protect a (killer) son https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1481697/Lies-to-protect-a-son.html)
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1847 on: February 19, 2023, 10:34:55 AM »
Matt Elliott
Kellie Mellis Byrne Luke’s team are looking into the destruction of evidence and what/what isn’t available to test. The petition was turned down by the Advocate, but this is far from over. For the first time in a long time Luke has a much stronger position to fight for.


Killer Luke Mitchell is going nowhere

And his recorded telephone conversations with Sandra Lean (published by Naomi Channell) demonstrate he has not addressed his aggression and remains a serious and dangerous high risk offender
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1848 on: February 19, 2023, 11:50:07 AM »
Matt Elliott
Kellie Mellis Byrne Luke’s team are looking into the destruction of evidence and what/what isn’t available to test. The petition was turned down by the Advocate, but this is far from over. For the first time in a long time Luke has a much stronger position to fight for.


Killer Luke Mitchell is going nowhere

And his recorded telephone conversations with Sandra Lean (published by Naomi Channell) demonstrate he has not addressed his aggression and remains a serious and dangerous high risk offender

Another killer called Gerald Rowatt (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-30416570  https://www.thefreelibrary.com/9+years+for+brolly+killer.-a0132956912 ) is ‘supporting’ psycho killer Luke Mitchell

Are all these killers monitored under MAPPA (https://www.gov.scot/policies/reducing-reoffending/public-protection-multi-agency-public-protection-arrangements-mappa/) ?

(Rowatt commented here https://youtu.be/bYY8aMFc7yw https://youtube.com/@gerryrowatt3012)
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1849 on: February 20, 2023, 03:53:33 AM »
Innocence fraudster Sandra Lean in 2023
👇
Sandra Lean
Kirk Mulholland Each of the searchers - Luke, SK and AW went down in the direction of Jodi's body alone, so there was no-one else to see what they said, did, or saw


in 2007/08 👇

From the accounts of all three family members, Luke stayed at the other side of the wall whilst Stephen Kelly went over, then returned to the path, then Alice Walker went over the wall.

Above excerpt from 1st discredited book No Smoke
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1850 on: February 20, 2023, 04:06:38 AM »
From the accounts of all three family members, Luke stayed at the other side of the wall whilst Stephen Kelly went over, then returned to the path, then Alice Walker went over the wall.

Above excerpt from 1st discredited book No Smoke

14 years old and showed no fear by staying over the other side of that wall
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1851 on: February 20, 2023, 04:20:00 AM »
Innocence fraudster Sandra Lean in 2023
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in 2007/08 👇

From the accounts of all three family members, Luke stayed at the other side of the wall whilst Stephen Kelly went over, then returned to the path, then Alice Walker went over the wall.

Above excerpt from 1st discredited book No Smoke

Sandra Lean
Kirk Mulholland Each of the searchers - Luke, SK and AW went down in the direction of Jodi's body alone, so there was no-one else to see what they said, did, or saw

‘No one else’ except for killer Luke Mitchell

What did his 22 page written statement - which was read during open court - say ?
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1852 on: February 20, 2023, 04:22:03 AM »
Sandra Lean
…and, we now know that there's a possibility the gran moved Jodi to the position she was in when the police arrived


If this happened wouldn’t killer Luke Mitchell have told the police?

Sandra Lean
There's very little detail in the statements about what happened behind the wall


What did killer Luke Mitchell say?
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1853 on: February 20, 2023, 04:29:23 AM »
Innocence fraudster Sandra Lean in 2023
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in 2007/08 👇

From the accounts of all three family members, Luke stayed at the other side of the wall whilst Stephen Kelly went over, then returned to the path, then Alice Walker went over the wall.

Above excerpt from 1st discredited book No Smoke

Was killer Luke Mitchell also the last person behind that wall

If he helped Alice Walker on the way over - wouldn’t he have then helped her on the way back?

Steven Kelly was already back on the path
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1854 on: February 20, 2023, 04:32:01 AM »
Sandra Lean
Kirk Mulholland Each of the searchers - Luke, SK and AW went down in the direction of Jodi's body alone, so there was no-one else to see what they said, did, or saw (I mention "saw" because nobody, other than Luke, can say what he saw, since he was the first to go down, and, we now know that there's a possibility the gran moved Jodi to the position she was in when the police arrived.


By all accounts it appears killer Luke Mitchell was the last person behind the wall

Did he ‘poke’ Jodi Jones with ‘a big f***** stick’?


”I will embrace and stab it with a big f*****' stick.
~ killer Luke Mitchell
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1855 on: February 20, 2023, 04:40:22 AM »
Corinne Mitchell sat with her killer son for five plus hours whilst he gave his 22 page written statement on the 1st of July 2003 at Dalkeith police statement

What date did she make her first statement?

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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1856 on: February 20, 2023, 04:46:13 AM »
Corinne Mitchell sat with her killer son for five plus hours whilst he gave his 22 page written statement on the 1st of July 2003 at Dalkeith police statement

Killer Luke Mitchell stated in his first witness statement that “he went out to look for Jodi on his mother's suggestion

Corinne Mitchell would have known he was lying when he stated this

And according to his last telephone call with his mother at 00:30hrs he stated ‘I can't talk, I have to go

Text from Corinne Mitchell to her killer son Luke Mitchell

You will tell me right now what is wrong. I'm on my way up to find you

Corinne Mitchell evidence during the trial

I kept trying to phone him as he was late and in trouble
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1857 on: February 20, 2023, 04:59:35 AM »
Mr Turnbull: 'Did Luke go out again about 10pm to dispose of anything?' Mrs Mitchell: 'No.'

Mr Turnbull: 'Is it just coincidence he was seen a little after 10pm walking back to your house?'

Mrs Mitchell: 'Luke was in the house at that time.'

She then revealed that Mitchell phoned her at 12.30am after Jodi's body had been found but he never mentioned that.

She said: “I kept trying to phone him as he was late and in trouble. He would not answer and then he finally phoned and said, 'I can't talk, I have to go.' 'He phoned back again and when I asked what happened he said, 'I can't tell you.' 'I heard a man's voice in the background and Luke said it was a policeman and I asked to speak to him.'

Mr Turnbull: 'Luke calls you twice and didn't tell you what had happened to Jodi?'

Mrs Mitchell: 'That's right.' Mr Turnbull: 'Because, Mrs Mitchell, you already knew.'

Mrs Mitchell: 'I didn't know.'
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Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1858 on: February 20, 2023, 05:09:57 AM »
Mr Turnbull: 'Did Luke go out again about 10pm to dispose of anything?' Mrs Mitchell: 'No.'

Mr Turnbull: 'Is it just coincidence he was seen a little after 10pm walking back to your house?'

Mrs Mitchell: 'Luke was in the house at that time.'

She then revealed that Mitchell phoned her at 12.30am after Jodi's body had been found but he never mentioned that.

She said: “I kept trying to phone him as he was late and in trouble. He would not answer and then he finally phoned and said, 'I can't talk, I have to go.' 'He phoned back again and when I asked what happened he said, 'I can't tell you.' 'I heard a man's voice in the background and Luke said it was a policeman and I asked to speak to him.'

Mr Turnbull: 'Luke calls you twice and didn't tell you what had happened to Jodi?'

Mrs Mitchell: 'That's right.' Mr Turnbull: 'Because, Mrs Mitchell, you already knew.'

Mrs Mitchell: 'I didn't know.'


Killer Luke Mitchell didn’t give evidence during his trial - meaning Alan Turnbull couldn’t question him

Instead he questioned Corinne Mitchell
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1859 on: February 20, 2023, 06:22:59 AM »
Sandra Lean to James English in 2019

The reason I put the book out is if I was forced to give up - so if anything happened to me - I don’t think there’s anyone else in Scotland got the level of knowledge of the case that I’ve got

And the idea was put everything I know in there and if anybody else wants to come along - the informations there


What about that 22 page witness statement killer Luke Mitchell made while his mother Corinne Mitchell sat next to him at Dalkeith police station ?

Why did you choose to not include it in your book Sandra?

You knew the media hadn’t published it in full - even though it was read out in open court

And you weren’t ‘prohibited’ from writing about the evidence heard during the public trial
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