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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2100 on: February 27, 2023, 08:02:47 AM »
[162] “….the appellant told the police at interview on 4 July 2003 that he and Jodi would sit on the other side of the wall from the Roan's Dyke Path near to the gap in the wall at the junction of the two paths and "have a cigarette or whatever". In the same interview he said that there was "a tiny wee path ... that folk walk along in the inside of that wall", i.e. on the other side from the Roan's Dyke Path. There was evidence, indeed, that just inside a gap in the wall at the junction of the paths stood a small tree with the initials [Name removed] and LM carved in its bark. A witness David Stirling described an occasion in early June 2003 when he was with friends and they met the appellant at the junction of the paths. They went down the inside of the wall (towards the "V") for some distance, then sat and smoked cannabis. Another witness, John [Name removed], said that on two occasions when the appellant telephoned asking for quantities of cannabis, they arranged to meet at the opening in the wall at the junction of the paths. On one of these occasions when they met the appellant said that he was waiting for Jodi”

Does anyone have a copy/or link to production 14

[160] Thereafter the evidence of Detective Constable Lindsay proceeded. She said inter alia that she went to the house at about 11 o'clock on 2 July. On the television in the livingroom there was a news item about the killing of Jodi Jones. She asked the appellant a question as to which way Jodi would have walked. He replied that she would have come out of the house, walked down the side of the janitor's house (i.e. Roan's Dyke House), past the back of the school, and down the Roan's Dyke Path. Detective Constable Lindsay said she knew the path. She asked him where this was. The appellant offered to draw her a sketch of the route, which was production No. 14. He marked Jodi's house with a cross, and then showed arrows from there, past the janitor's house (Roan's Dyke House) on to the junction with the Lady Path and thereafter on the other side of the wall from the Roan's Dyke Path which he marked with a hatched line and the word "path", to the point which he marked with an X and the words "body found". The wall was shown as a solid line. Detective Constable Lindsay said that the appellant told her he was aware that there was a hole in the wall at the junction and a small path close to the wall. The arrows were shown on the woodland side of the wall. She asked him if he had been down this route. He said that there was not a very good path and he had only been a short way down.
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Offline Mr Apples

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2101 on: February 27, 2023, 08:13:31 AM »
“….the appellant told the police at interview on 4 July 2003 that he and Jodi would sit on the other side of the wall from the Roan's Dyke Path near to the gap in the wall at the junction of the two paths and "have a cigarette or whatever". In the same interview he said that there was "a tiny wee path ... that folk walk along in the inside of that wall", i.e. on the other side from the Roan's Dyke Path. There was evidence, indeed, that just inside a gap in the wall at the junction of the paths stood a small tree with the initials [Name removed] and LM carved in its bark. A witness David Stirling described an occasion in early June 2003 when he was with friends and they met the appellant at the junction of the paths. They went down the inside of the wall (towards the "V") for some distance, then sat and smoked cannabis. Another witness, John [Name removed], said that on two occasions when the appellant telephoned asking for quantities of cannabis, they arranged to meet at the opening in the wall at the junction of the paths. On one of these occasions when they met the appellant said that he was waiting for Jodi”

Knew the locus like the back of his hand, including that V-break, but denied being in there before. He just kept tripping himself up. The court had to adjourned one day (don't know the exact date during the trial) because LM had taken unwell. I wonder if this was as a result  of him knowing he'd been well and truly sussed? Probably.

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2102 on: February 27, 2023, 08:26:55 AM »
Why did 14 year old killer Luke Mitchell have two rats in a glass container in his bedroom and where did they come from?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2103 on: February 27, 2023, 08:30:16 AM »
Knew the locus like the back of his hand, including that V-break, but denied being in there before. He just kept tripping himself up. The court had to adjourned one day (don't know the exact date during the trial) because LM had taken unwell. I wonder if this was as a result  of him knowing he'd been well and truly sussed? Probably.

So did Corine and Shane Mitchell

[94] The appellant's actions had also amounted to an attempt to construct a false defence; his explanations to police officers, and to the deceased's mother, as to why the deceased might not have arrived to meet him contradicted his knowledge of her movements on the evening of her death; he told David High that the deceased was not coming out, despite knowing she had left to meet him and had made no effort to enquire as to where she was when she failed to appear; and he had repeatedly lied about the circumstances in which his dog's reaction led him to the deceased.
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2104 on: February 27, 2023, 08:33:29 AM »
What was the evidence of Mahasweta Roy
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2105 on: February 27, 2023, 08:35:32 AM »
How many litres of urine were found in killer Luke Mitchell’s bedroom on the 4th July 2003?

Apparently less than 2 litres a day is considered ‘normal’ - 1.7 litres
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2106 on: February 27, 2023, 08:43:05 AM »
How many litres of urine were found in killer Luke Mitchell’s bedroom on the 4th July 2003?

Apparently less than 2 litres a day is considered ‘normal’ - 1.7 litres

And how often did Corinne Mitchell empty the urine bottles from her killer sons bedroom prior to his murder?
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Offline Nicholas

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« Reply #2107 on: February 27, 2023, 08:45:58 AM »
And how often did Corinne Mitchell empty the urine bottles from her killer sons bedroom prior to his murder?

Corinne Mitchell said her killer son Luke was sleeping downstairs on one of the large sofas in the living room from 1st July 2003

But killer Luke Mitchell said ‘because he slept on top of a bunk bed it was more convenient to do that than to do anything else’

Meaning the killer was urinating in bottles before he committed his murder

Plus the evidence also suggested he was sleeping on the floor of his bedroom on/under a duvet
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2108 on: February 27, 2023, 08:58:17 AM »
And how often did Corinne Mitchell empty the urine bottles from her killer sons bedroom prior to his murder?

According to Gerard Seenan for the guardian on 22nd January 2005

“When police searched his home, they found, in his squalid bedroom, 20 bottles of urine they believe may have been prepared for a satanic ritual.

What ‘satanic ritual’ was Gerard Seenan referring to?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2109 on: February 27, 2023, 09:09:10 AM »
And how often did Corinne Mitchell empty the urine bottles from her killer sons bedroom prior to his murder?

Corinne Mitchell claimed her killer son Luke was given chores to do

If true - wouldn’t one of these chores have been to clean his bedroom and dispose of the urine bottles ?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2110 on: February 27, 2023, 09:13:10 AM »
How many litres of urine were found in killer Luke Mitchell’s bedroom on the 4th July 2003?

How did killer Luke Mitchell collect 20 bottles or urine by the 4th July 2003 if detective constable Lindsay was at the house?

“During the search of 203 Newbattle Abbey Crescent on 4 July 2003 a number of bottles containing liquid were found in the appellant's bedroom, some on and some under the bed.
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2111 on: February 27, 2023, 09:23:19 AM »
How did killer Luke Mitchell collect 20 bottles or urine by the 4th July 2003 if detective constable Lindsay was at the house?

“During the search of 203 Newbattle Abbey Crescent on 4 July 2003 a number of bottles containing liquid were found in the appellant's bedroom, some on and some under the bed.

And where did all those empty bottles come from in 3 and a bit days in order to be filled in the first place?

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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2112 on: February 27, 2023, 09:25:46 AM »
Meaning the killer was urinating in bottles before he committed his murder

And where did all those empty bottles come from in 3 and a bit days in order to be filled in the first place?

The evidence points to killer Luke Mitchell utinating in bottles before he committed his murder
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2113 on: February 27, 2023, 09:55:15 AM »
What was the evidence of Mahasweta Roy

Mahasweta Roy was also involved in serial killer Tobin case

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/dna-of-murder-accuseds-son-found-999175
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Offline Myster

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2114 on: February 27, 2023, 10:03:50 AM »
How did killer Luke Mitchell collect 20 bottles or urine by the 4th July 2003 if detective constable Lindsay was at the house?

“During the search of 203 Newbattle Abbey Crescent on 4 July 2003 a number of bottles containing liquid were found in the appellant's bedroom, some on and some under the bed.
He'd got his own little IRN-BRU factory going right there... except it was 10x stronger and much more flavourful.
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.