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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2130 on: February 27, 2023, 11:17:35 AM »
Why didn’t Donald Findlay call killer Luke Mitchell’s fathers (Philip Mitchell) ‘new wife’ to give evidence about why she had bought her step son a Marilyn Manson calendar for his birthday ?

What evidence would killer Luke Mitchell’s step mother have given to the jury about her step son, Marilyn Manson and the calendar?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2131 on: February 27, 2023, 11:19:53 AM »
What evidence would killer Luke Mitchell’s step mother have given to the jury about her step son, Marilyn Manson and the calendar?

What were the pictures of in the Marilyn Manson calendar purchased by killer Luke Mitchell’s step mother?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2132 on: February 27, 2023, 11:23:29 AM »
What were the pictures of in the Marilyn Manson calendar purchased by killer Luke Mitchell’s step mother?

Evidence points to Philip Mitchell’s ‘new wife’ buying killer Luke Mitchell a Marilyn Manson calendar before he committed his murder

Detectives searched his home on July 4, four days after Jodi's body was found, and took a number of items away for examination. It later emerged that more than 20 bottles of a liquid thought to be urine, a Marilyn Manson CD and DVD and a calendar featuring the goth rocker were among the items seized.
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2133 on: February 27, 2023, 11:30:23 AM »
Stephen Sweeney
Was talking to my wife about stuff and some things i am confused about dose anyone know how long it took Luke to find the body after he went over the wall? And when he found the body did he phone the police while over the body or did he wait till everyone was over and phone them? Now one thought I had is if he did murder her and knew the body was over there would he not try and get them away from that area at all cost maybe by coming over and saying he didn't find anything and keep moving on also if it was a couple of mins he found it this would indicate he knew where the body was if it was 10 or so mins this means he was looking a good while before finding the body also if he phoned the police as soon as he found the body and never waited till everyone got over none of this screams out to me murderer again only my opinion doesn't prove anything just something to think about


Sadistic killer Luke Mitchell did NOT phone 999 immediately because he wanted to witness the ‘search trio’s ‘panicky’ reaction

And this psychopath stayed over the other side of the wall - near Jodi Jones body - when he could have been phoning 999
« Last Edit: February 27, 2023, 11:44:14 AM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2134 on: February 27, 2023, 11:45:31 AM »
”In the police statement read out to the court, Mitchell said he and Jodi were "very close" and that the only day they did not see each other was on Sundays, when he would visit his father.

Why did Corinne Mitchell tell James English her killer son Luke Mitchell stayed at his father Philip Mitchell’s house at the weekends, giving the impression he slept there ? 

Jodi Jones DNA was found on a pair of trousers hidden in a hold-all
« Last Edit: February 27, 2023, 11:48:30 AM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2135 on: February 27, 2023, 12:01:40 PM »
Did killer Luke Mitchell forge a birth certificate and ID in the name of Ian Tyler before getting a tattoo in October 2003?


[174] …. The appellant was asked for identification to prove that he was over 18 years of age. ……..he produced a birth certificate which showed that he was more than 18 and a photo identification card which matched the name.

Why would killer Luke Mitchell or his mother Corinne Mitchell forge a birth certificate and/or photo ID to say killer Luke Mitchell was 58 years of age

 *&^^&


Excerpt from Sandra Lean’s 1st discredited book No Smoke
In another attempt to show the Mitchell family as unreliable, the prosecution called witnesses who had not, previously, been made known to the defence team. Staff from a tattoo parlour were called to show that Corrine Mitchell had "lied" for her son, by providing him with fake id, so that he could have a tattoo. The fake id was not produced in court – only the word of the staff that it had been produced was available. It was, they claimed, a birth certificate, and Corrine Mitchell had claimed her son was the person named on that certificate. With prior warning, the defence would have been able to prove that either (a) Corrine Mitchell produced no such document, or (b) the staff at the tattoo parlour had broken the law by tattooing someone with an obviously fake id - the person they named on the birth certificate which Corrine Mitchell is supposed to have provided is a 58 year old man!

There is no evidence anywhere that when killer Luke Mitchell pretended to be Ian Tyler to get a tattoo in October 2003 he was also pretending to be 58 years old

 *&^^&
« Last Edit: February 27, 2023, 12:04:18 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2136 on: February 27, 2023, 12:06:28 PM »
Excerpt from Sandra Lean’s 1st discredited book No Smoke
”The tattoo evidence, led to prove the dishonesty of Corrine Mitchell, was not revealed to the defence prior to being led in court. Further, this evidence raised serious questions as to the honesty of the people testifying – they had no corroborating evidence (such as the birth certificate and photographic id they claimed to have been shown), and the name they claimed to have been given was that of a 58 year old man.

Were the Mitchell’s involved in any other frauds prior to killer Luke Mitchell’s murder

They had led evidence during the trial which ended in January 2005 that had nothing to do with the murder of Jodi - but alleged that Mitchell was involved in another crime - fraud.

Mr Findlay said: "What this had to do with Luke and a charge of murder, in my submission, defies any rational explanation, other than the fact that the Crown just used it to have another go at Luke
."
« Last Edit: February 27, 2023, 12:09:02 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2137 on: February 27, 2023, 12:14:25 PM »
Why would killer Luke Mitchell or his mother Corinne Mitchell forge a birth certificate and/or photo ID to say killer Luke Mitchell was 58 years of age

 *&^^&


Excerpt from Sandra Lean’s 1st discredited book No Smoke
In another attempt to show the Mitchell family as unreliable, the prosecution called witnesses who had not, previously, been made known to the defence team. Staff from a tattoo parlour were called to show that Corrine Mitchell had "lied" for her son, by providing him with fake id, so that he could have a tattoo. The fake id was not produced in court – only the word of the staff that it had been produced was available. It was, they claimed, a birth certificate, and Corrine Mitchell had claimed her son was the person named on that certificate. With prior warning, the defence would have been able to prove that either (a) Corrine Mitchell produced no such document, or (b) the staff at the tattoo parlour had broken the law by tattooing someone with an obviously fake id - the person they named on the birth certificate which Corrine Mitchell is supposed to have provided is a 58 year old man!

There is no evidence anywhere that when killer Luke Mitchell pretended to be Ian Tyler to get a tattoo in October 2003 he was also pretending to be 58 years old

 *&^^&

Raymond McCloy, 33, a tattoo artist who was working in the shop, told jurors he tattooed a male in October 2003 "who was identified to me as the accused in this trial".

He said that the male produced a birth certificate to show that he was a couple of months over the age of 18 and a photographic identity card.

The woman said the tattoo was a belated birthday present and was something of a "celebration" to help put a "difficult time" for the family behind them, it was claimed.


The above (7th October 2003) was a month after killer Luke Mitchell and his mother had orchestrated their disrespectful TV stunt on the day of Jodi Jones funeral
« Last Edit: February 27, 2023, 12:22:13 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2138 on: February 27, 2023, 12:15:16 PM »
Excerpt from Sandra Lean’s 1st discredited book No Smoke
”The tattoo evidence, led to prove the dishonesty of Corrine Mitchell, was not revealed to the defence prior to being led in court. Further, this evidence raised serious questions as to the honesty of the people testifying – they had no corroborating evidence (such as the birth certificate and photographic id they claimed to have been shown), and the name they claimed to have been given was that of a 58 year old man.

Were the Mitchell’s involved in any other frauds prior to killer Luke Mitchell’s murder

They had led evidence during the trial which ended in January 2005 that had nothing to do with the murder of Jodi - but alleged that Mitchell was involved in another crime - fraud.

Mr Findlay said: "What this had to do with Luke and a charge of murder, in my submission, defies any rational explanation, other than the fact that the Crown just used it to have another go at Luke
."


I presume they mean the tattoo business.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2139 on: February 27, 2023, 12:24:53 PM »
I presume they mean the tattoo business.

No

Whiplash trash was still in business up to 2016
« Last Edit: February 27, 2023, 12:47:11 PM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2140 on: February 27, 2023, 12:34:28 PM »
Evidence points to Philip Mitchell’s ‘new wife’ buying killer Luke Mitchell a Marilyn Manson calendar before he committed his murder

Detectives searched his home on July 4, four days after Jodi's body was found, and took a number of items away for examination. It later emerged that more than 20 bottles of a liquid thought to be urine, a Marilyn Manson CD and DVD and a calendar featuring the goth rocker were among the items seized.


Why didn’t Donald Findlay call Philip Mitchell and his ‘new wife’ to give evidence ?

And what exactly would they have said about killer Luke Mitchell, Marilyn Manson and when he visited his father/step mother ?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2141 on: February 27, 2023, 12:35:52 PM »
Stephen Sweeney
Was talking to my wife about stuff and some things i am confused about dose anyone know how long it took Luke to find the body after he went over the wall? And when he found the body did he phone the police while over the body or did he wait till everyone was over and phone them? Now one thought I had is if he did murder her and knew the body was over there would he not try and get them away from that area at all cost maybe by coming over and saying he didn't find anything and keep moving on also if it was a couple of mins he found it this would indicate he knew where the body was if it was 10 or so mins this means he was looking a good while before finding the body also if he phoned the police as soon as he found the body and never waited till everyone got over none of this screams out to me murderer again only my opinion doesn't prove anything just something to think about


Stephen Sweeney appears to be displaying signs of possible cognitive dissonance
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2142 on: February 27, 2023, 12:39:09 PM »
I presume they mean the tattoo business.

Psychopathic killer Luke Mitchell used an alias (deception) to obtain an underage tattoo - pretending to be an 18 year old Ian Tyler

Senior fingerprint officer James Aitken, 42, told the court that his examinations showed Luke Mitchell had "come into contact" with a tattoo consent form with the name Ian Tyler on it.
« Last Edit: February 27, 2023, 12:46:59 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2143 on: February 27, 2023, 12:43:56 PM »
I presume they mean the tattoo business.

In New York parents can be charged with “child endangerment’ for allowing their underage child to get a tattoo
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #2144 on: February 27, 2023, 12:54:41 PM »
I presume they mean the tattoo business.

Sadistic killer Luke Mitchell (and his accomplice mother Corinne) conned the tattoo parlour by using a fake alias
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation