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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3045 on: April 25, 2023, 10:59:01 PM »
Has anyone seen Heather Brunt’s Twitter feed - she’s being encouraged by con artist Sandra Lean too

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Sandra Lean
Heather Brunt You use anything you like, Heather!!! This stuff makes me so angry, but I don't have the time to follow up on it, especially when it's everywhere at once. So happy to see you nailing them, though - thank you!!!


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« Last Edit: April 25, 2023, 11:24:05 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3046 on: April 25, 2023, 11:02:40 PM »
Scott C Forbes
@AuldM
I was distancing myself from the case, haven't been involved for some time, but DR article just poked the hornet nest again
4:20 pm · 25 Apr 2023
https://twitter.com/AuldM/status/1650882364942303233


Has the dangerous killer and Sandra Lean kicked him to the kerb
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3047 on: April 25, 2023, 11:04:08 PM »
I’ve seen no evidence he got a law degree

Can I respectfully suggest that you take that up with the Daily Record?

“ Also in Forbes' favourite newspaper today (Daily Record online) he is referred to as "an ex-convict who has a law degree”. (KenMore)
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3048 on: April 25, 2023, 11:07:35 PM »
Can I respectfully suggest that you take that up with the Daily Record?

“ Also in Forbes' favourite newspaper today (Daily Record online) he is referred to as "an ex-convict who has a law degree”. (KenMore)

The fraudulent criminal is referred to as a ‘former solicitor’ here https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/luke-mitchell-supporters-hand-over-25538169
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3049 on: April 25, 2023, 11:10:37 PM »
Can I respectfully suggest that you take that up with the Daily Record?

“ Also in Forbes' favourite newspaper today (Daily Record online) he is referred to as "an ex-convict who has a law degree”. (KenMore)

Have you seen any evidence that he has a law degree?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3050 on: April 25, 2023, 11:16:25 PM »
The fraudulent criminal is referred to as a ‘former solicitor’ here https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/luke-mitchell-supporters-hand-over-25538169

Not sure that negates my point. Being a former solicitor does not preclude you from having a law degree.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3051 on: April 25, 2023, 11:17:08 PM »
Have you seen any evidence that he has a law degree?

Yes.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3052 on: April 25, 2023, 11:32:01 PM »
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Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3053 on: April 25, 2023, 11:38:34 PM »
I haven’t

Bet you haven’t seen the Jemaa el-Fna in Marrakesh either but it’s there all the same.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3054 on: April 25, 2023, 11:40:13 PM »
Bet you haven’t seen the Jemaa el-Fna in Marrakesh either but it’s there all the same.

You’ve also claimed Judith Jones sent a text message to killer Luke Mitchell at 10,41pm

Which didn’t happen!

The sim card timings were out of sync

‘Donald Findlay QC, defending, asked him: ''You didn't get the impression that the person on the phone was agitated, uptight, champing at the bit or in a bad temper or anything like that?'' Mr Ovens said: ''No.''
Her voice shaking, Mrs Jones described how, hours later, she came to believe something was wrong when Jodi broke her curfew of 10pm.
At 10.20pm, she texted a message to Mr Mitchell's phone, because Jodi's was broken: ''Right Toad (Jodi's nickname), that's you grounded for another three weeks,'' it said.
A minute later, Mr Mitchell called back. Mrs Jones said: ''He said he hadn't seen Jodi all night. I said: 'What do you mean you haven't seen her? She was with you?' If I recollect, I just put the phone down. There was something really wrong.''
She called Mr Mitchell back and told him: ''I just want the truth. If she is with you, I don't care. I just want to know. He said: 'I haven't seen her.'''
Mrs Jones began phoning friends and later she called the police. Jodi's body was found later that night.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12411779.she-gave-me-a-kiss-and-went-out-i-never-saw-jodi-again-mother-tells-murder-trial-of-phone-calls-to-accused-after-daughter-went-missing/
« Last Edit: April 25, 2023, 11:47:08 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3055 on: April 25, 2023, 11:58:10 PM »
You’ve also claimed Judith Jones sent a text message to killer Luke Mitchell at 10,41pm

Which didn’t happen!

The sim card timings were out of sync

‘Donald Findlay QC, defending, asked him: ''You didn't get the impression that the person on the phone was agitated, uptight, champing at the bit or in a bad temper or anything like that?'' Mr Ovens said: ''No.''
Her voice shaking, Mrs Jones described how, hours later, she came to believe something was wrong when Jodi broke her curfew of 10pm.
At 10.20pm, she texted a message to Mr Mitchell's phone, because Jodi's was broken: ''Right Toad (Jodi's nickname), that's you grounded for another three weeks,'' it said.
A minute later, Mr Mitchell called back. Mrs Jones said: ''He said he hadn't seen Jodi all night. I said: 'What do you mean you haven't seen her? She was with you?' If I recollect, I just put the phone down. There was something really wrong.''
She called Mr Mitchell back and told him: ''I just want the truth. If she is with you, I don't care. I just want to know. He said: 'I haven't seen her.'''
Mrs Jones began phoning friends and later she called the police. Jodi's body was found later that night.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12411779.she-gave-me-a-kiss-and-went-out-i-never-saw-jodi-again-mother-tells-murder-trial-of-phone-calls-to-accused-after-daughter-went-missing/

It is obviously an error. Is this what you’re basing your claim on….one typing error in one newspaper when every other newspaper said 10.40?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3056 on: April 26, 2023, 12:05:54 AM »
It is obviously an error. Is this what you’re basing your claim on….one typing error in one newspaper when every other newspaper said 10.40?

Sandra Lean Aka Jigsawman had killer Luke Mitchell phoning Judith Jone back at 10:40pm

Where did she get her 10,39pm alleged text time from?

Jigsawman aka Sandra Lean

Timeline Monday June 30th 2003.

10.30pm Luke takes the dog for her last walk of the evening.
10.39pm Judy sends a text to Lukes phone, Right Toad, say goodnight toLuke. Thats you grounded for another week.
10.40pm Luke phones Judy to say he hasnt seen Jodi all night. Judy says she will call round Jodis friends. Luke returns to the house and tells his mother what Judy has said.
10.49pm Judy calls back to say Jodi is nowhere to be found, and she is calling the police. Luke says he will go up the path to look for Jodi, and if he doesnt find her, he will make his way to Judys house to decide what to do next. (This story was later changed to claim that Luke had agreed to meet the other members of the search party at the path.).


And Killer Luke Mitchell was seen leaving his house at around 22:00pm not 22:30pm

TIMELINE Of Almost 15 Year Old Scottish Killer Luke Mitchell’s Murder (Part 174)
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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/04/09/30th-june-2003-timeline-of-14-year-old-killer-luke-mitchells-murder-part-174/
« Last Edit: April 26, 2023, 12:13:00 AM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3057 on: April 26, 2023, 12:32:29 AM »
You’ve also claimed Judith Jones sent a text message to killer Luke Mitchell at 10,41pm

Which didn’t happen!

The sim card timings were out of sync

‘Donald Findlay QC, defending, asked him: ''You didn't get the impression that the person on the phone was agitated, uptight, champing at the bit or in a bad temper or anything like that?'' Mr Ovens said: ''No.''
Her voice shaking, Mrs Jones described how, hours later, she came to believe something was wrong when Jodi broke her curfew of 10pm.
At 10.20pm, she texted a message to Mr Mitchell's phone, because Jodi's was broken: ''Right Toad (Jodi's nickname), that's you grounded for another three weeks,'' it said.
A minute later, Mr Mitchell called back. Mrs Jones said: ''He said he hadn't seen Jodi all night. I said: 'What do you mean you haven't seen her? She was with you?' If I recollect, I just put the phone down. There was something really wrong.''
She called Mr Mitchell back and told him: ''I just want the truth. If she is with you, I don't care. I just want to know. He said: 'I haven't seen her.'''
Mrs Jones began phoning friends and later she called the police. Jodi's body was found later that night.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12411779.she-gave-me-a-kiss-and-went-out-i-never-saw-jodi-again-mother-tells-murder-trial-of-phone-calls-to-accused-after-daughter-went-missing/

’Smit et al. identified 4 individual cases where presentation of CCTV recordings, SIM-card, DVD content, and web content were the misleading elements (personal communication with N. Smit, 5th of April, 2018).
To summarize, research from several forensic disciplines, as well as real criminal cases, has demonstrated that experts conducting forensic examination that involve subjectivity, interpretation or opinion are susceptible to cognitive bias.


Cognitive and human factors in digital forensics: Problems, challenges, and the way forward
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1742287619300441
« Last Edit: April 26, 2023, 12:38:50 AM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3058 on: April 26, 2023, 07:27:41 AM »
This being seen at 5:15pm

Leonard Kelly was home by 5:15pm

Parky where did you get your 4:25pm timing from for the call from the killer to his grandmother Ruby Guetta?

Killer Luke Mitchell Had All Of This Time Over This Evening To Dispose, Clean & So Forth & Proxy Abuser, & Pretend Criminologist Sandra Lean’s Web Of Deceit To Reach Maslow’s Pyramid (Part 108)
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http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2022/10/31/killer-luke-mitchell-proxy-abuser-pretend-criminologist-sandra-leans-web-of-deceit-to-reach-maslows-pyramid-guest-blog-part-108/

Over a decade ago Sandra Lean had the time of the phonecall to the grandmother at 4:55pm

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Jigsawman aka Sandra Lean

Timeline Monday June 30th 2003.

4.05pm Jodi returns home from school
4.34 4.38pm Series of texts between Lukes phone and Judys phone (Jodis phone was broken, so Jodi borrowed her mothers)
4.39pm (approx) Judy plays a Rod Stewart track which lasts more than 5 minutes to Jodi and Joseph, leaving just 4 minutes for Jodi to get ready and leave in order for Bryson to have spotted her at 4.48
4.48-4.54pm Andrina Bryson sees a girl and a youth on the entrance to the path
4.50-4.55pm [Name removed] leaves on the motorbike to meet [Name removed] at 5pm. It is believed (although not confirmed) that he picked up the bike from [Name removed]s garden and drove along Lady path which runs at right angles to Roans Dyke, before cutting through the woods to meet [Name removed].
4.55pm Luke phones his mothers work and speaks to his grandmother

« Last Edit: April 26, 2023, 07:31:24 AM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3059 on: April 26, 2023, 08:14:10 AM »
« Last Edit: April 26, 2023, 08:18:06 AM by Nicholas »
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