Author Topic: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean  (Read 877967 times)

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Offline Rusty

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3300 on: May 09, 2023, 03:07:56 PM »
Its not the same though is it? They are fighting what they see as an injustice.  The guilty camp are just fighting.  They already have what they want.

Maybe if you attacked the evidence that got the conviction in the first place, there would be no need for those of us that support guilt to bother. But since you  cannot lay a glove on the evidence that got the conviction and instead attack and smear the innocent, then there are those of us that will continue to put you in your place.
« Last Edit: May 10, 2023, 09:35:32 PM by mrswah »

Offline Rusty

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3301 on: May 09, 2023, 03:10:17 PM »
investigation and the anomalies within the statements of witnesses was that threshold met?

You have not seen any witness statements in full, nor did you attend the 42 day trial.

Offline Dexter

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3302 on: May 09, 2023, 03:15:17 PM »
I think you are missing some salient points.  1) in the process of fighting a perceived injustice these people you seem to laud appear to be firmly pointing the finger at the victim’s own family causing absolute misery to them and that in itself is an injustice 2) The guilty camp are fighting the campaign to have an evil murderer released from prison, which seems fair enough to me.

He will be released whenever the powers that deem fit. If not then he won't.

Which people I seem to laud? This used to be an ok forum  but that is long gone.
« Last Edit: May 09, 2023, 03:17:47 PM by Dexter »

Offline Rusty

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3303 on: May 09, 2023, 03:16:11 PM »
I think you are missing some salient points.  1) in the process of fighting a perceived injustice these people you seem to laud appear to be firmly pointing the finger at the victim’s own family causing absolute misery to them and that in itself is an injustice

Exactly this. It is the exact reason why they don't and will never get anywhere. Now that this campaign is being targeted for membership of the Ku Klux clan, i suspect the authorities will be keeping a very close eye on them, if they have not been doing so already.

Offline Dexter

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3304 on: May 09, 2023, 03:17:11 PM »
Maybe if you attacked the evidence that got the conviction in the first place, there would be no need for those of us that support guilt to bother. But since you and your ilk cannot lay a glove on the evidence that got the conviction and instead attack and smear the innocent, then there are those of us that will continue to put you and your ilk in your place.

My ilk? Can you not post without insulting people. I came on to reply to a comment, I have done so

I don't have to do anything else  as I have no desire to dedicate my life to interacting with others when I don't need to.

Offline Rusty

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3305 on: May 09, 2023, 03:18:17 PM »
What was it Gandhi said…First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

It was not Gandhi that said it, a myth. But this is cringe even for you. The most over used quote in the history of the internet. Cheesy!

Offline Rusty

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3306 on: May 09, 2023, 03:24:53 PM »
He will be released whenever the powers that deem fit. If not then he won't.

Which people I seem to laud? This used to be an ok forum  but that is long gone.

You first came on here and pretended to be Forbes spokesperson and typed the biggest pile of poo I have ever read. And that is saying something considering faith has 20'000 posts of poo.

If i remember correctly, you were asked on multiple occasions to provide evidence of what you were typing, every single time you ignored or deflected. I may go back and ask for that evidence again, but no doubt you will scuttle away in to hiding again.

Offline Rusty

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3307 on: May 09, 2023, 03:27:51 PM »
My ilk? Can you not post without insulting people. I came on to reply to a comment, I have done so

If you are offended by a word, then that is your problem, not mine.

I don't have to do anything else  as I have no desire to dedicate my life to interacting with others when I don't need to.

Ummm then why are you here? I know why you are here, you are going to be providing evidence of your pals law degree, right?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3308 on: May 09, 2023, 04:09:41 PM »
He will be released whenever the powers that deem fit. If not then he won't.

Which people I seem to laud? This used to be an ok forum  but that is long gone.
You seem to think Faithlilly and her pal Sandra Lean are a cut above for a start "Over their heads FL over their heads".  You have otherwise failed to address my points. 
« Last Edit: May 09, 2023, 04:12:53 PM by Venturi Swirl »
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3309 on: May 09, 2023, 04:15:51 PM »
It was not Gandhi that said it, a myth. But this is cringe even for you. The most over used quote in the history of the internet. Cheesy!
There's nothing more laughable than people trying to sound intellectual by quoting some clever-sounding meme they saw on Bernie Sanders twitter and not checking its veracity.   @)(++(*
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Kenmair

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3310 on: May 09, 2023, 06:07:44 PM »
Can anyone advise when the current theory of [Name removed] being the killer was formulated?  I know SF was accusing MK for many years but wondered which year his theory changed or was it SL? At some point the Da Vinci rapist was in the mix and it seems to me there is a degree of anyone will do as long as its not LM and it's just not fair that people weren't interrogated more than LM at the time so we'll deflect and blame and make podcasts accusing the family and mop up the remnants of the Jeremy Kyle audience for gullibilty.

Without doubt the Pro-LM campaign is Cult-like and even has a leader and sacred texts (plus the Channel 5 doc) that must not be challenged. And don't mention SM or PM, they just want a quiet life and leave random strangers and murderers to campaign for their boy.
« Last Edit: May 09, 2023, 06:14:09 PM by KenMore »

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3311 on: May 09, 2023, 06:33:40 PM »
You have not seen any witness statements in full, nor did you attend the 42 day trial.

I didn’t have to.

Frontline Scotland….change in the search party’s statements….no retraction or denial.

The single, most important piece of evidence against Luke was shown to have gone from being supportive of his statements in the first instance to changing completely by the time that they gave evidence in court.

Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Rusty

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3312 on: May 09, 2023, 06:34:37 PM »
Can anyone advise when the current theory of [Name removed] being the killer was formulated?


He has always been Leans No1 suspect from day one, the rest of the stuff is just noise. I think Nic mentioned in a previous comment. What she says in public and what she says privately are chalk and cheese. My best guess, is everything that you will read in Forbes book, will have been prepped by Lean.


Offline Rusty

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3313 on: May 09, 2023, 06:38:39 PM »
I didn’t have to.

Frontline Scotland….change in the search party’s statements….no retraction or denial.

Another bias, one-sided documentary that was taken off-air.

https://www.scotsman.com/news/bbc-axes-biased-mitchell-documentary-2510094

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3314 on: May 09, 2023, 06:42:46 PM »
Maybe if you attacked the evidence that got the conviction in the first place, there would be no need for those of us that support guilt to bother. But since you and your ilk cannot lay a glove on the evidence that got the conviction and instead attack and smear the innocent, then there are those of us that will continue to put you and your ilk in your place.

The only reason you are here is because we ARE taking the evidence to pieces nail by rotten nail. What’s left? The stinking remains of house built of sand, guarded by compliant rodents.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?