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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3660 on: August 11, 2023, 08:27:28 PM »
Why didn’t Laura Martin for the guardian report the fact Laura W had become sadistic killer Luke Mitchell’s girlfriend by the time of her “best friends” funeral?

Many of Mitchell's friends maintain his innocence. Laura Wightman, who was Jodi's best friend and is close to Mitchell, said she thought the wrong person had been convicted.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/jan/23/ukcrime.lornamartin

Did Laura Martin for the Guardian and/or others manipulate what sadistic killer Luke Mitchell’s then new girlfriend Laura W had said in her September 2003 police witness statement ie; “I think he is innocent”? https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12409362.jodi-boy-friend-smoked-300-cannabis-joints-a-week-teenagers-boast-to-psychiatrist-in-doubt/

What did Laura W think when she learned killer Luke Mitchell had another new girlfriend - Gemma C?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3661 on: August 11, 2023, 11:30:50 PM »
The police knew within 14 days from when he committed his murder, at the latest, that sadistic killer Luke Mitchell had been given a wooden brown handled skunking knife for Christmas 2002
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/11987571.jodis-aunts-make-tv-appeal-to-trace-teenagers-killer/

What did the police find and seize during their 14th August 2003 search of Philip Mitchell’s house in Livingston?

Read your own quote.

“ However, yesterday a police spokesman declined to comment on reports that a 14-year-old youth had been questioned in connection with a missing knife. It is understood the boy had shown the knife off to friends after receiving it as a Christmas present, but it has since disappeared.”

The police confirmed nothing.

Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3662 on: August 12, 2023, 01:35:15 AM »
The police knew within 14 days from when he committed his murder, at the latest, that sadistic killer Luke Mitchell had been given a wooden brown handled skunking knife for Christmas 2002
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/11987571.jodis-aunts-make-tv-appeal-to-trace-teenagers-killer/

Read your own quote.

“ However, yesterday a police spokesman declined to comment on reports that a 14-year-old youth had been questioned in connection with a missing knife. It is understood the boy had shown the knife off to friends after receiving it as a Christmas present, but it has since disappeared.”

The police confirmed nothing.

The police “knew”!

It was “confirmed” the police “knew” about the knife by the 4th July 2003 - when they searched the killers home in Newbattle Abbey crescent looking for it

The police then searched Philip Mitchell’s house in Livingston on 14th August 2003

What did they find and seize?
« Last Edit: August 12, 2023, 01:41:10 AM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Chris_Halkides

A tale of two knives
« Reply #3663 on: August 12, 2023, 01:35:11 PM »
On page 194 of Innocents Betrayed Sandra Lean wrote, “A pouch, taken from Luke’s home, was said to belong to the ‘missing’ knife.  But it is worth noting that the size of the blade used to inflict the wounds found on Jodi would have to have been considerably larger than the knife which fitted to the pouch.  Indeed, when the professor was asked about the wound inflicted on Jodi’s tonsil (by the blade being plunged into her mouth), he demonstrated what should have been the ridiculous suggestion that the knife produced in court could have been the one which inflicted this injury—the professor showed the court that only by holding the knife at the very edge of the handle, with the tips of his fingers, could that knife have inflicted the injury without causing, for example, damage to the teeth and corresponding damage to the hand of the attacker (which was not found on Luke’s hands)."  From what I gathered in a Scottish Sun article, I surmise that the blade was four inches in length.

From EdinburghLive, "'There were about ten officers, some in forensic suits, emptying the skip to try to find the broken tip. I read the brand name on the knife and checked online. I found an exact match, and it was very expensive.' At the time, a field next to Tom’s garage was used by teenage mechanic apprentices for racing stock cars. One of them, now a dad in his mid-30s, said: 'We found a knife with blood on it in the skip. We were like, ‘What the *******.’ It was terrible.'"

Of course the knife from the skip might not have been the murder weapon, but one only hopes that it was tested correctly.

Offline Nicholas

Scammer Sandra Lean did not attend the trial
« Reply #3664 on: August 12, 2023, 04:11:47 PM »
On page 194 of Innocents Betrayed Sandra Lean wrote, “A pouch, taken from Luke’s home, was said to belong to the ‘missing’ knife.  But it is worth noting that the size of the blade used to inflict the wounds found on Jodi would have to have been considerably larger than the knife which fitted to the pouch.  Indeed, when the professor was asked about the wound inflicted on Jodi’s tonsil (by the blade being plunged into her mouth), he demonstrated what should have been the ridiculous suggestion that the knife produced in court could have been the one which inflicted this injury—the professor showed the court that only by holding the knife at the very edge of the handle, with the tips of his fingers, could that knife have inflicted the injury without causing, for example, damage to the teeth and corresponding damage to the hand of the attacker (which was not found on Luke’s hands)."

What knife was scammer Sandra Lean referring to?

She wasn’t in court!
« Last Edit: August 12, 2023, 04:49:17 PM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Tom Halliday
« Reply #3665 on: August 12, 2023, 04:16:22 PM »
From EdinburghLive, "'There were about ten officers, some in forensic suits, emptying the skip to try to find the broken tip. I read the brand name on the knife and checked online. I found an exact match, and it was very expensive.' At the time, a field next to Tom’s garage was used by teenage mechanic apprentices for racing stock cars. One of them, now a dad in his mid-30s, said: 'We found a knife with blood on it in the skip. We were like, ‘What the *******.’ It was terrible.'"

Of course the knife from the skip might not have been the murder weapon, but one only hopes that it was tested correctly.

Tom Halliday
👇
http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/05/24/killer-luke-mitchell-gossip-fantasist-tom-halliday-fraudster-scott-forbes-lazy-reporter-iona-young-the-2022-spin-on-the-knife-in-the-skip-from-2003-part-217/
« Last Edit: August 12, 2023, 04:48:49 PM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline faithlilly

Re: Scammer Sandra Lean did not attend the trial
« Reply #3666 on: August 12, 2023, 05:29:06 PM »
What knife was scammer Sandra Lean referring to?

She wasn’t in court!

But she knows people who were, unlike your good self.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: Scammer Sandra Lean did not attend the trial
« Reply #3667 on: August 12, 2023, 07:44:28 PM »
But she knows people who were, unlike your good self.

Lol

How could you possibly know that?

In reality you have no idea!
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Kenmair

Re: Scammer Sandra Lean did not attend the trial
« Reply #3668 on: August 12, 2023, 07:49:45 PM »
Lol

How could you possibly know that?

In reality you have no idea!

Faith allegedly knew someone on the jury too and it was almost not proven, aye. The only person Lean knew at the trial was CM who visited her shop. If there is so much evidence that could clear LM why are his defenders not taking it to legal professionals instead of having daft protests and petitions?





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Offline faithlilly

Re: Scammer Sandra Lean did not attend the trial
« Reply #3669 on: August 12, 2023, 08:13:15 PM »
Lol

How could you possibly know that?

In reality you have no idea!

I’d be surprised as you make so many mistakes.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Scammer Sandra Lean did not attend the trial
« Reply #3670 on: August 12, 2023, 08:20:27 PM »
Faith allegedly knew someone on the jury too and it was almost not proven, aye. The only person Lean knew at the trial was CM who visited her shop. If there is so much evidence that could clear LM why are his defenders not taking it to legal professionals instead of having daft protests and petitions?

My, who do you think I am now? Dr Lean or is it one of her daughters again?

Possibly true at the time but subsequently I’m sure she’s spoken to many individuals who attended the trial.

Name one well regarded legal or scientific expert who thinks Luke is guilty ( Pat Brown doesn’t count).
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Kenmair

Re: Scammer Sandra Lean did not attend the trial
« Reply #3671 on: August 12, 2023, 08:47:23 PM »
My, who do you think I am now? Dr Lean or is it one of her daughters again?

Possibly true at the time but subsequently I’m sure she’s spoken to many individuals who attended the trial.

Name one well regarded legal or scientific expert who thinks Luke is guilty ( Pat Brown doesn’t count).

I am not fussed who you are but you claimed recently you had a friend on the jury. I would suggest you ask Donald Findlay first if he thinks LM is guilty (a fine fellow behind the pipe and whiskers) or you could ask SM or PM what they think instead of grasping at straws for the rest of your life. Take your evidence and claims to any solicitor in Scotland and see what they say instead of arguing on the internets.

Ps. Dr Lean is a crackpot local hypnotist without a shred of credibility outside the Dalkeith and District Bingo club and a stupid persons idea of a smart person.


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Offline faithlilly

Re: Scammer Sandra Lean did not attend the trial
« Reply #3672 on: August 12, 2023, 10:34:39 PM »
I am not fussed who you are but you claimed recently you had a friend on the jury. I would suggest you ask Donald Findlay first if he thinks LM is guilty (a fine fellow behind the pipe and whiskers) or you could ask SM or PM what they think instead of grasping at straws for the rest of your life. Take your evidence and claims to any solicitor in Scotland and see what they say instead of arguing on the internets.

Ps. Dr Lean is a crackpot local hypnotist without a shred of credibility outside the Dalkeith and District Bingo club and a stupid persons idea of a smart person.

I’m afraid you’re mistaken as I’ve never claimed that i had a friend on the jury.

There is only one internet.

You really do spend an inordinate amount of time slating an individual who you claim has no credibility in the first place. Isn’t that rather a waste of time?
« Last Edit: August 12, 2023, 10:55:19 PM by faithlilly »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Kenmair

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3673 on: August 13, 2023, 03:55:56 PM »
The answer to your question was Donald Findlay but you seemed to have missed that. Feel free to ignore the rest.

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #3674 on: August 13, 2023, 06:12:44 PM »
The answer to your question was Donald Findlay but you seemed to have missed that. Feel free to ignore the rest.

Something else you appear to have got wrong.

From the Herald 2007

“ I ask about Luke Mitchell, who in 2005 was sentenced to life imprisonment for murdering his 14-year-old girlfriend, Jodi Jones. Mitchell’s appeal is scheduled for January 8 next year. It is thought that Findlay takes the case very personally.

“Of course it’s an important case,” he says. “There was an appalling loss of life. That young girl had done nobody any harm and had her whole life ahead of her. But equally, he’s a young boy who had his whole life ahead of him, and you want to be pretty sure that guilt was proved beyond reasonable doubt before you convict on that evidence. I get the sense that there is an air of disquiet about the verdict that wasn’t there at the time of the trial, and with some justification.”
« Last Edit: August 13, 2023, 06:33:37 PM by faithlilly »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?