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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4215 on: October 25, 2023, 07:29:57 PM »

Nicholas believes Judith’s first phone call to Luke was at 10.20

Sandra Lean stated during her “keeping the record straight” video (at around 20:26) that Judith Jones tried to phone killer Luke Mitchell at 10:17pm - she then texted his mobile at 10:20pm

Why would killer Luke Mitchell be taking Mia the dog out for a walk to “save” Corinne Mitchell’s legs after Judith Jones’ text message?
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Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4216 on: October 25, 2023, 11:20:39 PM »
Sandra Lean stated during her “keeping the record straight” video (at around 20:26) that Judith Jones tried to phone killer Luke Mitchell at 10:17pm - she then texted his mobile at 10:20pm

Why would killer Luke Mitchell be taking Mia the dog out for a walk to “save” Corinne Mitchell’s legs after Judith Jones’ text message?

I’d advise everyone to watch the clip mentioned by the poster above. It is obvious from the context that Dr Lean meant 11.17 not 10.17.
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4217 on: October 26, 2023, 06:21:15 AM »
Sandra Lean stated during her “keeping the record straight” video (at around 20:26) that Judith Jones tried to phone killer Luke Mitchell at 10:17pm - she then texted his mobile at 10:20pm

Why would killer Luke Mitchell be taking Mia the dog out for a walk to “save” Corinne Mitchell’s legs after Judith Jones’ text message?
I’d advise everyone to watch the clip mentioned by the poster above. It is obvious from the context that Dr Lean meant 11.17 not 10.17.

Steven Kelly, Alice Walker & Janine Jones saw killer Luke Mitchell on the path at 11:14pm

There was no mention by any of them that killer Luke Mitchell’s phone rang at 11:17pm

Comparing TIMELINES - FACTS Vs The Murderer, His Mother & Armchair Detective Sandra Lean’s LIES Around Timings (Part 259)

http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/07/18/killer-luke-mitchell-comparing-timelines-facts-vs-the-murderer-his-mother-armchair-detective-scammer-sandra-leans-lies-around-timings/

Sandra Lean’s “keeping the record straight” video was pre recorded and edited - if she had meant 11:17 as you claim - she would have changed this time during the edits
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4218 on: October 26, 2023, 08:31:25 AM »
Comparing TIMELINES - FACTS Vs The Murderer, His Mother & Armchair Detective Sandra Lean’s LIES Around Timings (Part 259)

http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/07/18/killer-luke-mitchell-comparing-timelines-facts-vs-the-murderer-his-mother-armchair-detective-scammer-sandra-leans-lies-around-timings/

Sandra Lean had killer Luke Mitchell at the Newbattle entrance of the path at 10:59pm and by 11:05pm the killer could see Janine Jones, Steven Kelly and Alice Walker

How long did it usually take killer Luke Mitchell to walk this distance?

How long did it take killer Luke Mitchell to walk from his house to the Newbattle entrance of the path?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4219 on: October 26, 2023, 10:17:27 AM »
Sandra Lean

Luke called Mrs Jones back at 10:40pm to say he had not seen Jodi all evening”

The above was posted on the now deleted WAP website - reproduced here

https://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/07/14/killer-luke-mitchell-innocence-fraud-scammers-sandra-lean-un-convicted-baby-murderer-billy-middleton-from-wap-april-2011-on-actually-factually-guilty-murderer-luke-mitchell-part-258/

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12406880.phone-record-of-jodi-murder-accused-wiped/
7 January 2005

"Both the inbox and outbox were empty, but the SIM card revealed a message received on the evening of Friday, June 27, 2003, saying: "Luke its Kim im at ma grans can u phone mi on (number) Love u xKimx" Another message on the SIM card at 10.41pm from Jodi's mother read: "2 wks grounding toad . . . Say bye 2 luke"."

The Herald reported the time of the text to be 10:41.

The above is misinformation by the Herald reporter

There was no text message sent at 10:41pm reading “2 wks grounding toad . . . Say bye 2 luke
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4220 on: October 26, 2023, 10:38:23 AM »
Sandra Lean from p.378-379 of her second innocence fraud book IB;

Corinne did not understand much of the legal technicalities in Luke’s case. Again, that is not a criticism of Corinne - I’ve met so many people whose loved ones have been wrongly convicted and whose focus remains on what the system should have done. I was different, in that I hadn’t had the emotional trauma of having someone I loved treated that way, so I was able to step back and take a more analytical approach. But it was the difference in understandings about the legal technicalities, in particular, that led to so many misunderstandings and disagreements about how to proceed
In July that year, I received the SCCRC’s decision in the mail stating that they would not be referring the case back to the Court of Appeal. It was a shattering blow and brought the already fragile relationship between myself and Corinne to breaking point. Less than two weeks later, after eleven years working relentlessly on Luke’s behalf, I arrived home on the day of my daughter’s birthday to a note, hand-delivered through my letterbox. It stated simply that Power of Attorney, granted to me several years earlier to allow me access to documents and individuals related to the case, was revoked with immediate effect.
As a result, the website set up to campaign for Luke had to be taken down. So long as I had access to the case papers, I could back up everything I put out publicly on the site – without that access, I left myself and the Wrongly Accused Person organisation that hosted the site, wide open to allegations of dishonesty and even legal challenge. It was a difficult development to accept, pushing me to the brink of mental and emotional collapse. Everything, it seemed, had been for nothing.


As stated in the below;

Comparing TIMELINES - FACTS Vs The Murderer, His Mother & Armchair Detective Sandra Lean’s LIES Around Timings (Part 259)

http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/07/18/killer-luke-mitchell-comparing-timelines-facts-vs-the-murderer-his-mother-armchair-detective-scammer-sandra-leans-lies-around-timings/

Sandra Lean’s statement;

 “So long as I had access to the case papers, I could back up everything I put out publicly on the site – without that access, I left myself and the Wrongly Accused Person organisation that hosted the site, wide open to allegations of dishonesty and even legal challenge”

was and is complete and utter nonsense!

Sandra Lean would have known that the moment she published any material online, regardless of whether she removed it at a later date, she could and would still be “wide open to allegations of dishonesty and even legal challenge”.
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4221 on: October 26, 2023, 11:31:53 AM »
Sandra Lean 17th February 2017 here

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg386436.html?PHPSESSID=k0k3qqrjq8iql4l3p74bsg2430#msg386436

“Mayfield, via the route I explained earlier, Mayfield by the circuitous route, the takeaway at the end of the Easthouses Road (unlikely - the family used the takeaway in the centre of the Easthouses road and often had their food delivered), Newtongrange, or Newbattle by the circuitous route. She could have cut through the street where GD lived on the circuitous route to Newbattle, or gone through the school grounds and across the school playing fields towards where GD lived - in short, the only person she is believed to have known in that direction is GD and there is nothing of any substance to suggest she would have planned to go to GD's house. If she was heading towards Mayfield, she generally took the route through the complex - she would have gone to her Gran's or her cousin YW's flat, just across the road from her Gran's, where JF said he was when he saw the search trio leaving to look for Jodi.

Firstly, it's a claimed identity, and that's as far, I think, as we can go definitively with that. Secondly, (and I recommend Google streetview, Parkhead Place for this next bit) he was behind her - if she had come up onto the main Easthouses road at the junction with Maryburn Road, and her follower had not wanted her to know he was following, he could have gone up the first set of steps onto the Easthouses Road, emerging behind her without her knowing he was there. It's a busy road at that time of the evening - I don't imagine she would have heard someone walking in trainers behind her over the noise of the traffic - unless she'd specifically looked behind, she would have had no reason to know there was anyone behind her, "following" or not.

If Stocky Man had, for example, said he was going to the takeaway for food, he would have headed for the top set of steps onto the Easthouses Road, as those are the nearest steps to the takeaway. From that point, Jodi emerging onto the Easthouses Road further down, either at the second set of steps, or the junction with Maryburn Road, would have been in clear view. One of the witnesses said Stocky Man was just before the bus stop (presumably the one on the same side of the road as Jodi and Stocky Man)- for that to be the case, he had to have been on the Easthouses Road prior to the bus stop.

Witness statements purportedly outlining Jodi's movements that night claimed she must have gone up the second set of steps, or onto the Maryburn junction because she "didn't pass the window" of her house. That always struck me as strange - what reason would Jodi have had to walk in the opposite direction to where it was claimed she was headed (passing the window of her house would have meant she had to turn left, leaving her garden). Even if it had been claimed that Jodi was believed to be heading for Woodburn that night (which was never claimed, but just for completion), she still would not have "passed the window" - she would have turned right, up the steps (2nd set), and waited for the bus at the same bus stop Stocky Man was seen following her.

Bottom line, whether she was going to YW's, her Gran's, Luke's or Woodburn there would have been no reason for her to "pass the window" - so why did the witnesses make such a big deal about that?


 *&^^&

And now Sandra Lean has concocted a second “stocky” man

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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4222 on: October 26, 2023, 02:07:59 PM »
Steven Kelly, Alice Walker & Janine Jones saw killer Luke Mitchell on the path at 11:14pm

There was no mention by any of them that killer Luke Mitchell’s phone rang at 11:17pm

How many times did killer Luke Mitchell switch off his mobile phone on the 30th June and/or put it on silent and/or vibrate only?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4223 on: October 26, 2023, 02:38:11 PM »
catmu 🐱🐈🐈‍⬛🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳
@suzyhal35224037
Judith Jones and her "baby" 👶 👇 Did she know [Name removed] was infact the last known person to see her REAL baby - a 14 year old CHILD - alive 🤔
@PoliceScotland
 Luke Mitchell did NOT murder Jodi Jones!!!

https://twitter.com/suzyhal35224037/status/1714841773002850567

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catmu 🐱🐈🐈‍⬛🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳
@suzyhal35224037
[Name removed] 👇 confessed to murdering his 14 year old sister Jodi Jones. Why was this not taken seriously
@PoliceScotland
 🤔 Why isn't this your headline
@Daily_Record
 🤔 If Joseph is the murderer he has to face justice.

https://twitter.com/suzyhal35224037/status/1715444857865461847

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@suzyhal35224037
Sep 30
Judith Jones 👇 on the day of Jodi's funeral. Is that a black eye she's sporting 🤔 Does [Name removed] 👇 have a bruise on his face 🤔 Joseph was known for beating his sisters and stabbed his mother  Was this another altercation 🤔
@PoliceScotland
 Luke Mitchell is innocent

https://twitter.com/suzyhal35224037/status/1708243286551392647

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@suzyhal35224037
Sep 7
Replying to
@jools_4773
@StinsonHunter
 and 2 others
[Name removed] 👇 The last person identified as seeing Jodi Jones alive was 'Stocky Man' aka [Name removed] 🤷‍♀️
@PoliceScotland
 you have his SISTER  Janine Jones working as a WPC she committed perjury at Luke Mitchell’s trial.
https://twitter.com/suzyhal35224037/status/1699757773456580742


Is this the same Suzy from the JB forum?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4224 on: October 26, 2023, 03:11:07 PM »
Statements by Sandra Lean from 27th June 2021

So I’ve made out most of you would have seen or heard about the statement that was posted yesterday I didn’t see it myself until about 4 o’clock yesterday after I was out in an area with erm very poor signal so lots of you were trying to contact me and I could see there were messages coming in but I couldn’t actually open them to see what they were about erm just as well you did because had you not sent the information to me I would have known nothing about it because I’m blocked from the group that it was posted on So thank you everybody that tried to get to me yesterday I did finally find out what it was all about at about 4 o’clock yesterday afternoon

So I’ve explained before the difference between what families want to do and what I in my professional capac capacity can do in these cases and I totally understand the anger and frustration that people experience when I say things like we can’t do this or we can’t say that or we can’t do it this way or the consequences if we do it that way will be I I fully fully understand that but it’s always conveyed with the best interests of the convicted person at heart both now and in the future and and that’s I’m continually thinking where will this go in 5 years 10 years or whatever but I can’t tell anybody what to do you know I can make suggestions based on my knowledge and experience but everybody has the right to make their own decisions of course they do I’ve never never suggested otherwise it’s just that sometimes the consequences of those decisions have an impact on other things

So to the statement I’m not gonna address the whole thing because there’s no need I think the message was fairly self evident erm I spoke with Luke the day before this statement was posted and a great deal of what was in the statement didn’t come up in that conversation at all and what did come up wasn’t discussed in the tone or the interpretation that the statement would suggest so yet it came as a little bit of a surprise to me as well the day after erm I’d had a conversation with Luke I knew decisions were being taken about the direction of the campaign but not anything like what was said in the statement

There are two points I want to address firstly to the people who told lies about me and who then went on to misrepresent parts of the conversation he and I had on Friday that is and will always be between you and your conscience

The other aspect the most important in all of it that I have to address the statement now just let me yeah there was a claim that Luke advised me that all documents that have been withheld from the public for years be released immediately the implication being that I release them Luke said nothing of the sort and even if he had I could not have accepted such an instruction I’ve explained before that the difficulties with making public certain documents so not only would putting some of those documents in the public domain be an offence in Scotland it would also have or could also have an impact on Luke’s case in the future on my professional position and on the other cases that I work with

Now if it’s reached the stage that Luke or his family or his some of his supporters don’t are less concerned about the consequences for Luke’s case I accept that I fully understand that but I can’t allow those potential consequences to then impact on other people especially people currently with live proceedings so I hope I hope people understand I’m not being difficult I’m not being difficult

There are ramifications real consequences if I were to put those documents out now if those documents are gonna be made public then it will be somebody else who will put them out and I just hope that person whoever they are is ready to take the consequences of those actions both for Luke and for themselves
(sic)


https://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2021/07/04/transcript-of-sandra-leans-27th-june-2021-live-facebook-video-exit-speech/

”The Luke Mitchell trial transcripts”

https://justiceforlukemitchell.blogspot.com/2023/10/the-luke-mitchell-trial-transcripts_20.html

Ana Justice
@AnaJusticeLM[Name removed]
Updated blog, Luke Mitchell's trial transcripts - who can apply for them?
https://justiceforlukemitchell.blogspot.com/2023/10/the-luke-mitchell-trial-transcripts_20.html…
1:20 PM · Oct 23, 2023
https://twitter.com/AliceIrvine3/status/1716608959207948792

Alice Irvine
@AliceIrvine3
Wow this is good news then we can get the transcripts from the court  it's just going to cost a bomb  hopefully this can be done.
1:14 AM · Oct 24, 2023
https://twitter.com/AliceIrvine3/status/1716608959207948792

Ana Justice
@AnaJusticeLM[Name removed]
It's also possible to purchase specific sections/parts!
1:21 AM · Oct 24, 2023

Ana Justice
@AnaJusticeLM[Name removed]
@BobRuffTruth
@michellesings
10:39 PM · Oct 20, 2023


Alice Irvine appeared in “Convicting A Murderers” on rapists and killers Steven Avery and Brandon Dassey
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4225 on: October 26, 2023, 03:49:15 PM »
Why did Matt Elliott choose to edit his video down so it didn’t include Sandra Lean standing there with her hand out?

And did Matt Elliott do this of his own accord or was it suggested to him by someone that he edit out fraudster Scott Forbes and the delay in the handshake between Russel Findlay and Sandra Lean?

Looks like Matt Elliott is no longer making his film

Matthew Elliott
@mattelliottphot
I wonder how many actually understand how a narrative is ‘adopted’ by the prosecution and fed to the jury…
Did this happen in Luke Mitchell’s case?
ABSOLUTELY!
@AuldM
@WeKnowTheyKnow1
@SharonIndy_[Name removed]LM
@SandraLean5
@Naomi_TV
@Jerome_Elaut
 #justiceforlukemitchell
9:44 am · 14 Dec 2022

Auld Mick
@AuldM
Replying to
@mattelliottphot
@WeKnowTheyKnow1
  and 4 others
The police and prosecutor worked hand in hand. If any witnesses gave evidence contrary to police narrative, they were ignored, smeared or bullied. Evidence that questioned the narrative was hidden or destroyed
9:47 am · 14 Dec 2022



Matthew Elliott is a ‘super-fan’ of psychopathic and sadistic child killers


Matthew Elliott
@mattelliottphot
Happy Birthday
@damienechols
 I hope it doesn’t come and leave on silent feet.
4:45 pm · 11 Dec 2022


Matt Elliott (and Donna) helped Innocence Fraud promoter and grifter Bob Ruff with his podcast instead

Suspect Sandra Lean got in contact with Bob Ruff after listening to his first episode
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4226 on: October 26, 2023, 04:01:22 PM »
Stuart Henderson
Most Likely not the Most original thought i have had about the case but i'll throw it out there to see what gets said... 
The Moped was right against the V.... 
Would really help JF and GD climb and get over eh...


 @)(++(*
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4227 on: October 26, 2023, 04:33:14 PM »
”The Luke Mitchell trial transcripts”

https://justiceforlukemitchell.blogspot.com/2023/10/the-luke-mitchell-trial-transcripts_20.html

It appears Ana Azalia has left the group

Looks like Ana Azalia has recognised Sandra Lean is a bare faced liar

Ana Justice
@AnaJusticeLM[Name removed]
We've had confirmation from the court that they are in the process of converting the tapes from Luke Mitchell's trial to digital copies. There is 40 days of evidence that could be transcribed, at a cost for the transcription work!
#JusticeforLukeMitchell
#JusticeforJodiJones
5:31 PM · Oct 10, 2023

https://twitter.com/AnaJusticeLM[Name removed]/status/1711781538382168079
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4228 on: October 27, 2023, 11:11:09 AM »
I’d advise everyone to watch the clip mentioned by the poster above. It is obvious from the context that Dr Lean meant 11.17 not 10.17.
Steven Kelly, Alice Walker & Janine Jones saw killer Luke Mitchell on the path at 11:14pm

There was no mention by any of them that killer Luke Mitchell’s phone rang at 11:17pm

Comparing TIMELINES - FACTS Vs The Murderer, His Mother & Armchair Detective Sandra Lean’s LIES Around Timings (Part 259)

http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/07/18/killer-luke-mitchell-comparing-timelines-facts-vs-the-murderer-his-mother-armchair-detective-scammer-sandra-leans-lies-around-timings/

I was wrong about the 11:14pm timing

However, Sandra Lean’s “keeping the record straight” video was pre recorded and edited - if she had meant 11:17 - why didn’t she correct this before publishing her video?

Updated TIMELINE Of Almost 15 Year Old Scottish Teenage Killer Luke Mitchell’s Murder (Part 174

http://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2023/04/09/30th-june-2003-timeline-of-14-year-old-killer-luke-mitchells-murder-part-174/

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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #4229 on: October 27, 2023, 01:50:48 PM »
Killin' Time 15- Out to Launch
👇
https://youtu.be/SvCCz0ebGi4?feature=shared
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