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registrar

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Re: Another view of dog evidence
« Reply #165 on: April 17, 2013, 10:30:57 PM »
Grime made 90+k out of Jersey

maybe the same again out of Luz

motivational factors anyone?

No wonder he's kept a low profile ever since these two 'occurences' - the money is in the bank after all   
 

registrar

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Re: Another view of dog evidence
« Reply #166 on: April 17, 2013, 10:52:07 PM »
anthropomorphism - I shan't bore you with

So let's stick to facts:

dogs can be trained to do just about anything - if the handler trains them accordingly

for every wag of the tail/bark/frozen posture - there might just be a little treat and the approval of the handler

That's not 'dissing' the dogs - they are ANIMALS - with NO self awareness or logic - just after that little doggy treat when they have done what their handler expected.

There is no moral dilemma with the dogs (they don't have that in their dictionary) but quite possibly with the handler

Especially when huge cash prizes are for the taking - for the handler, clearly not for the dogs - they get a chew if they're lucky

It's really as simple as that

Redblossom

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Re: Another view of dog evidence
« Reply #167 on: April 17, 2013, 11:56:23 PM »
Grime made 90+k out of Jersey

maybe the same again out of Luz

motivational factors anyone?

No wonder he's kept a low profile ever since these two 'occurences' - the money is in the bank after all

hate to break it to you when Mr Grime was on PDL he was working for  the UK police so no, he didnt make loads of money

In Jersey he was there for months as an independent

And NO he did not keep a low profile after it, he never made his own profile high  to start with, the media did for their own paid and PR reasons, he carried on working, the MEDIA decided not to make such a pigs arris out of any further cases he worked successfully on, even if they were high profile aka Keith Prout!!! cadaver dog alerted, no body, no forensics, but man confessed, dont let the facts get in the way of your bias now

Redblossom

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Re: Another view of dog evidence
« Reply #168 on: April 18, 2013, 12:00:47 AM »
Oh and btw registrar cadaver dogs do not react to coconut shells or any vegetables per se UNLESS they have the scent of cadaver on them, there you go, think about that whike you teyand figure out why chikdrens milk teethand bones were found in cellars in that goddam awful home which I may remind you is a scene under investigation in the ajimmy Saville sexual abuse inquiry

ferryman

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Re: Another view of dog evidence
« Reply #169 on: April 18, 2013, 12:28:34 AM »
even if they were high profile aka Keith Prout!!!

Grime never had anything to do with anyone called Keith Prout

debunker

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Re: Another view of dog evidence
« Reply #170 on: April 18, 2013, 09:37:40 AM »
Grime made 90+k out of Jersey

maybe the same again out of Luz

motivational factors anyone?

No wonder he's kept a low profile ever since these two 'occurences' - the money is in the bank after all
Cite please for the suggestion that he was working for the English Police.
hate to break it to you when Mr Grime was on PDL he was working for  the UK police so no, he didnt make loads of money

In Jersey he was there for months as an independent

And NO he did not keep a low profile after it, he never made his own profile high  to start with, the media did for their own paid and PR reasons, he carried on working, the MEDIA decided not to make such a pigs arris out of any further cases he worked successfully on, even if they were high profile aka Keith Prout!!! cadaver dog alerted, no body, no forensics, but man confessed, dont let the facts get in the way of your bias now

debunker

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Re: Another view of dog evidence
« Reply #171 on: April 18, 2013, 09:38:22 AM »
Oh and btw registrar cadaver dogs do not react to coconut shells or any vegetables per se UNLESS they have the scent of cadaver on them, there you go, think about that whike you teyand figure out why chikdrens milk teethand bones were found in cellars in that goddam awful home which I may remind you is a scene under investigation in the ajimmy Saville sexual abuse inquiry

They react to anything correctly 80-90% of the time. The other 10-20% are errors.

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Re: Another view of dog evidence
« Reply #172 on: April 18, 2013, 01:22:55 PM »
even if they were high profile aka Keith Prout!!!

Grime never had anything to do with anyone called Keith Prout

And Eddie the wonder dog actually gave incorrect signals at a carpet in the front room....when Prout actually confessed to killing his wife in a out building then putting her body in the back of the Land Rover.....again Eddie didn't alert to any body there... strange  >@@(*&) >@@(*&) >@@(*&)

Redblossom

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Re: Another view of dog evidence
« Reply #173 on: April 18, 2013, 08:50:43 PM »
even if they were high profile aka Keith Prout!!!

Grime never had anything to do with anyone called Keith Prout

And Eddie the wonder dog actually gave incorrect signals at a carpet in the front room....when Prout actually confessed to killing his wife in a out building then putting her body in the back of the Land Rover.....again Eddie didn't alert to any body there... strange  >@@(*&) >@@(*&) >@@(*&)

And you don't know that he didn't bring her into the house after killing her before when he wrapped her in a curtain, perhaps from the living room? Food for thought. I will take your post saying he killed her in an outbuilding as true despite  having googled for thr information and not found it.

@Debunker, the cite that Mr Grime worked for the UK police when he was in PDL is 1) his Linkedin profile and 2) his rogatory interview which is in the files where he says he is retired but at the time was working for the SYP. It seems he left SYP in August 2007, exact date unknown, after the PDL deployment.
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I am a retired police offer, previously at the service of the South Yorkshire police. Between August 1-8, 2007, and while working for the South Yorkshire police, I collaborated with the Judicial Police, Portugal, as regards their Operations Task Force.
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http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES_RIGATORY.htm

@Ferryman, you knew exactly who I was talking about, Adrian Prout, so you could have just corrected my memory lapse instead of making an issue of it

Offline muratfan

Re: Another view of dog evidence
« Reply #174 on: April 18, 2013, 10:28:30 PM »
Prout said he killed her in the building outside, then put her body in the car and went in the car to a pub, with the body in the car still.

Offline muratfan

Re: Another view of dog evidence
« Reply #175 on: April 18, 2013, 10:39:14 PM »
Mind you, Eddie the super dog, who was taken to the woods to search for the body, didn't pick up any scent at all in the woods.  So not that good a dog is it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2062923/Kate-Prout-murder-Husband-Adrian-confesses-shows-police-Red-Hill-Farm-grave.html



Redblossom

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Re: Another view of dog evidence
« Reply #176 on: April 18, 2013, 11:04:53 PM »
Prout said he killed her in the building outside, then put her body in the car and went in the car to a pub, with the body in the car still.

So he had a curtain prepared in the car to wrap her up in? Rather than sneek her body back in the house and use a curtain to do so? pls do cite now the report where he killed her in an outbuilding, cheers, and you DO realise dont you that even if he personally didnt bring her body into the living room HE may have contaminated it with HER death scent? Food for thought before you run off and say Eddie is useless



registrar

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Re: Another view of dog evidence
« Reply #177 on: April 18, 2013, 11:23:34 PM »
Oh and btw registrar cadaver dogs do not react to coconut shells or any vegetables per se UNLESS they have the scent of cadaver on them, there you go, think about that whike you teyand figure out why chikdrens milk teethand bones were found in cellars in that goddam awful home which I may remind you is a scene under investigation in the ajimmy Saville sexual abuse inquiry

The above is .. with respect ... twaddle

Grime bombed in Jersey

you may muse as much as you like about milk teeth and such much

he got paid 90k for that little fishing trip and produced a piece of coconut

END OF

Redblossom

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Re: Another view of dog evidence
« Reply #178 on: April 18, 2013, 11:50:47 PM »
Prout said he killed her in the building outside, then put her body in the car and went in the car to a pub, with the body in the car still.

Bump for blind murat

Redblossom

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Re: Another view of dog evidence
« Reply #179 on: April 19, 2013, 12:00:19 AM »
Registrar pls provide evidence that eddie has ever alerted to a vegetable when he is trained to alert to dead human bodies, its not rocket science