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Offline Nicholas

Re: The POLICE were too STUPID to fathom this out
« Reply #105 on: April 16, 2021, 02:02:13 PM »
tricky to establish that as luke's mother's parents adopted her.

Interestingly in reading about luke family we read of a late Des Guetta, Corinnes adoptive brother. in interview with newspaper, Des Guetta refused to comment on allegations luke attacked him with a baseball bat some time prior to the murder.

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/I%27m+going+n+now+he+re%3B+JODI+JONES%3A+THE+MOTHERS+Luke%27s+mum+is+defiant...-a0127512562

... is there any credibility in the claim this attack happened? i can't  find this reported elsewhere but would be keen to learn more.

Yes Desmond (Des) Guetta passed away on 7th October 2017

https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/desmond-guetta-obituary?pid=186990984

Yet no mention of him by Corrine during the channel 5 show?
« Last Edit: April 16, 2021, 02:06:01 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The POLICE were too STUPID to fathom this out
« Reply #106 on: April 16, 2021, 02:07:04 PM »
tricky to establish that as luke's mother's parents adopted her.

Interestingly in reading about luke family we read of a late Des Guetta, Corinnes adoptive brother. in interview with newspaper, Des Guetta refused to comment on allegations luke attacked him with a baseball bat some time prior to the murder.

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/I%27m+going+n+now+he+re%3B+JODI+JONES%3A+THE+MOTHERS+Luke%27s+mum+is+defiant...-a0127512562

... is there any credibility in the claim this attack happened? i can't  find this reported elsewhere but would be keen to learn more.

Were Corrine and Desmond related by blood ?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The POLICE were too STUPID to fathom this out
« Reply #107 on: April 16, 2021, 02:09:38 PM »
Was Corrine Mitchell’s adoption official?

Weren’t her parents ‘travellers’?

And were her biological parents also ‘travellers’?

“A source said Mitchell was devastated by the death of the woman who adopted his mother Corinne as a child”
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The POLICE were too STUPID to fathom this out
« Reply #108 on: April 16, 2021, 03:50:15 PM »
Were Corrine and Desmond related by blood ?

It seems Desmond Guetta apparently had a child he’d not met for 30 years - although according to the post knew they existed?

I'm looking for my biological dad all I know about him is his name is Desmond Albert guetta
He lived and worked in Edinburgh he sold caravan's or cars think it was in corstophine/wester hails
He will be about 55-60 years old
I think he was last in Dalkeith? I have never spoke or met him he knows I exist Iam now 30 this year think it's time to see or speak to him please any info would be great thank you all xxx
(Jan 2015 Missing people Scotland)[/color]

Are Luke and Corrine Mitchell aware of this?
« Last Edit: April 16, 2021, 04:02:06 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The POLICE were too STUPID to fathom this out
« Reply #109 on: April 16, 2021, 04:23:58 PM »
tricky to establish that as luke's mother's parents adopted her.

Interestingly in reading about luke family we read of a late Des Guetta, Corinnes adoptive brother. in interview with newspaper, Des Guetta refused to comment on allegations luke attacked him with a baseball bat some time prior to the murder.

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/I%27m+going+n+now+he+re%3B+JODI+JONES%3A+THE+MOTHERS+Luke%27s+mum+is+defiant...-a0127512562

... is there any credibility in the claim this attack happened? i can't  find this reported elsewhere but would be keen to learn more.

Did the regulars in Dalkeith’s royal British legion club know anything about this and what did police statements say on the matter?

I’m guessing Sandra Lean omitted this from her book?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The POLICE were too STUPID to fathom this out
« Reply #110 on: April 16, 2021, 04:26:04 PM »
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/I%27m+going+n+now+he+re%3B+JODI+JONES%3A+THE+MOTHERS+Luke%27s+mum+is+defiant...-a0127512562

Judy and Corinne hardly knew each other before Jodi's murder. In the immediate aftermath of the killing they spoke frequently. Judy was concerned Luke would need emotional support and asked Corinne whether he was receiving counselling and if there was anything she could do to help.

But as the focus of the inquiry started to fix on Mitchell, Judy realised the boy she had reached out to was Jodi's killer.

Later, she would learn that the mother she grieved with had provided the killer with a false alibi. Reluctantly, she asked that Luke stay away from the funeral.

But in a very public slap in the face, Luke and Corinne created their own media circus - first inviting Sky TV round for an interview in which a smirking Luke denied he was the killer.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: The POLICE were too STUPID to fathom this out
« Reply #111 on: April 16, 2021, 04:54:29 PM »
Judy and Corinne hardly knew each other before Jodi's murder. In the immediate aftermath of the killing they spoke frequently. Judy was concerned Luke would need emotional support and asked Corinne whether he was receiving counselling and if there was anything she could do to help.

But as the focus of the inquiry started to fix on Mitchell, Judy realised the boy she had reached out to was Jodi's killer.

Later, she would learn that the mother she grieved with had provided the killer with a false alibi. Reluctantly, she asked that Luke stay away from the funeral.

But in a very public slap in the face, Luke and Corinne created their own media circus - first inviting Sky TV round for an interview in which a smirking Luke denied he was the killer.


Then we have the real slap in the face which Corrine received at her place of work from a rather drunken Judith. I believe the police had to be called.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: The POLICE were too STUPID to fathom this out
« Reply #112 on: April 16, 2021, 05:42:33 PM »
Then we have the real slap in the face which Corrine received at her place of work from a rather drunken Judith. I believe the police had to be called.

Yes but it pales in comparison to what Corrine’s son Luke did to Judith’s daughter Jodi

Although I doubt very much it went down anything like Corrine Mitchell alleged - she’s a renowned story teller after all

Were there any witnesses ?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The POLICE were too STUPID to fathom this out
« Reply #113 on: April 16, 2021, 05:50:43 PM »
Then we have the real slap in the face which Corrine received at her place of work from a rather drunken Judith. I believe the police had to be called.

The Mitchell’s appear to me to have treated the Jones family in a similar manner to how Corrine described the hedgehogs

What was it she said during the James English podcast - ‘poke it with a stick’

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Offline Nicholas

Re: The POLICE were too STUPID to fathom this out
« Reply #114 on: April 16, 2021, 06:05:01 PM »
Then there’s Sandra Lean insinuating Judith’s daughter - who was murdered by Luke Mitchell - went out to meet him wearing a dirty t-shirt covered in fresh semen  *&^^&

I’d say she’s held it together extremely well given the extreme psychological abuse her and her family have been subjected to
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The POLICE were too STUPID to fathom this out
« Reply #115 on: April 16, 2021, 06:06:25 PM »
Then we have the real slap in the face which Corrine received at her place of work from a rather drunken Judith. I believe the police had to be called.

What evidence is there Judith was drunk?

Sounds to me like you’ve been taken in by yet more tales

Corrine Mitchell was the drinker and Sandra lean is my source
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Offline faithlilly

Re: The POLICE were too STUPID to fathom this out
« Reply #116 on: April 16, 2021, 06:20:01 PM »
Yes but it pales in comparison to what Corrine’s son Luke did to Judith’s daughter Jodi

Although I doubt very much it went down anything like Corrine Mitchell alleged - she’s a renowned story teller after all

Were there any witnesses ?

Was there any witnesses to Luke killing Jodi?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: The POLICE were too STUPID to fathom this out
« Reply #117 on: April 16, 2021, 07:01:05 PM »
Was there any witnesses to Luke killing Jodi?

Are you suggesting if there aren’t witnesses to a murder then no one should be arrested, charged and subsequently convicted?
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Offline Parky41

Re: The POLICE were too STUPID to fathom this out
« Reply #118 on: April 16, 2021, 07:06:41 PM »
Most of the reasoning and debate around LM not being the killer of Jodi Jones is based upon that of 'fallacy' ?

AB - The first and foremost absolute basis for her sighting, the only factual reason for her attention was that of what appeared to be 'a disagreement, argument of sorts' Her attention was drawn to the male. His actions. It was he she recalled with certainty when she stated "I'm as sure as sure can be" This person was honest to a T. She made nothing up and she did not pick LM out in court on this absolute basis. LM some 18 months later had changed dramatically. Much fuller. long hair pulled tightly back in a ponytail. There is absolutely no doubt she had seen his picture many times in the paper after that Identification. She stuck firmly to that of the youth she had seen, on the path and in the Identification.

That photo Id where LM's hair is more blonde than anything else. It is however not 'poker straight' Any other picture we see of LM is that of a youth with brown - sandy coloured hair. Exactly the colour she described. 11 other youths in those pictures, different colour of hair, shape, size. - she picked LM out, even though his hair appeared very blonde as opposed to sandy. She remembered him with clarity. She was not drawn to the white background she was drawn to him.

Every other part of her description was nothing short of - dam good. From the first until those more in-depth clarification ones were obtained. The hair appearing to be clumped at his neck - it stuck out. That Khaki green jacket, not shiny, the bulging pocket, badge. The type was of possibility. Not definite. It appeared to be drawn at the waist. Parkas have draw cords do they not? What colour were the trousers, green?

Of the girl - Dark hair which was possibly contained. It was not flowing in whatever length. She had on a dark blue top with LIGHTER coloured trousers, possibly Jeans and possibly bootcut. Upon further clarification. Very dark blue/black possibly navy. The trousers were SLIGHTLY LIGHTER in colour than that of the top. They were loose fitting. Possibly Jeans but not trousers as such. Jodi was wearing a black hoody with slightly lighter coloured dark blue cord/jeans.

The attention was on the male. His actions. Not his clothing nor that of the female. She did however get those clothes pretty dam close to what they actually were.

So it is easy is it not - with this fallacy of reasoning to ignore all of this dam good description and choose to concentrate on that emblem. This witness had LM implanted in her recall, his apparent anger. Whatever else was captured in her mind was that of brief colours and description. Not everything, which is nigh on impossible to do - it was him and she did remember that face very clearly. When AB said "I'm as sure as sure as can be"

I was watching some TV documentary series last night - based on cameras in real police work. Glasgow? Comment by one of the DI's.
'I'm glad we can now do this, it used to annoy the hell of me when people simply thought crimes should be solved almost instantly. They are more often than not, that of a long drawn out process. Whilst we may be able to eliminate most in those first days and weeks, it still takes a long time of gathering evidence to solve. Often many months.

Therefore again, this fallacy of reasoning. That if they were so sure they had got their man, why did it take months until his arrest. - It is called investigating and being thorough. Making sure they do have the right man rather than fitting up the wrong one. Yes, we are all aware it happens. But still there is nothing in the case of LM to show this to be true, quite the opposite.

Offline faithlilly

Re: The POLICE were too STUPID to fathom this out
« Reply #119 on: April 16, 2021, 08:47:32 PM »
Are you suggesting if there aren’t witnesses to a murder then no one should be arrested, charged and subsequently convicted?
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I’m not suggesting that at all, I’m using your argument that if there were no witnesses then how can we be sure something actually happened?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?