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Re: Ohio Police shoot 16-year-old Ma’Khia Bryant.
« Reply #45 on: April 23, 2021, 11:58:22 AM »

MSNBC guest suggests Ma'Khia Bryant was shot for 'not being perfect,' having a 'bad day'

Host Joy Reid called the deadly police-involved shooting a 'murder'.

"The way she's been talked about, because she was a big girl, right? And so people just see her as the aggressor. They don't see her humanity"

https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-joy-reid-guest-makhia-bryant-shot-having-bad-day


People see her as the aggressor, because she was the aggressor.

It has nothing to do with her being obese or black & whole lot more to do with her lunging at two women with a knife & saying she was going to "stab the f*ck out of them". Her humanity was clearly on display in them moments.

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Re: Ohio Police shoot 16-year-old Ma’Khia Bryant.
« Reply #46 on: April 23, 2021, 04:02:54 PM »

Security Camera Footage with Audio of Ma’khia Bryant shooting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoksXSo5LGw

The footage & audio gives additional information about the incident, including that the officer did not draw his weapon until Ma'Khia had lunged at the first woman. He had his hand on his weapon ready to draw (I think any officer attending a report of an attempted stabbing would do the same until they confirmed the scene was safe) but did not draw & fire until it was obvious the pink ladies life was in danger.

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Re: Ohio Police shoot 16-year-old Ma’Khia Bryant.
« Reply #47 on: April 23, 2021, 04:11:57 PM »

I think BLM might have lost this one.  But top marks for trying.

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Re: Ohio Police shoot 16-year-old Ma’Khia Bryant.
« Reply #48 on: April 23, 2021, 04:14:20 PM »
Knife-wielding 16-year-old was arguing with 2 girls over unmade bed before cop shot her

MA'KHIA Bryant was arguing with two other girls over an unmade bed moments before she was shot by police, her foster mom said yesterday.

Angela Moore, her foster mom, said Bryant was involved in a fight with two other girls over housekeeping.

"It was over keeping the house clean," Moore told CNN. "The older one told them to clean up the house because 'Mom doesn't like the house dirty,'" Moore said. "So that's how it all started."

 https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14718880/makhia-bryant-shooting-latest-updates-knife-bed-live/
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Re: Ohio Police shoot 16-year-old Ma’Khia Bryant.
« Reply #49 on: April 23, 2021, 04:28:57 PM »
I think BLM might have lost this one.  But top marks for trying.

It's jaw dropping the lengths that BLM supporter celebrities, politicians & civil rights activists are willing to go to in making an attacker out to be a victim & still demonising the police, as if this was some racist murder.

I think this footage shows their complaint isn't about bad cops at all but rather a hatred for all cops.

The camera footage clearly shows who was being the aggressor in the incident & who were trying to defend themselves.

The footage of the shooting shows an almost text book like example of when lethal force is justifiable in defence of another.

But, no doubt the call of #Justice For Ma'khia, will continue indefinitely, since it seems pretty obvious the officer can't be charged with anything.

There was no unnecessary use of force or reckless/negligent behaviour on display in the slightest.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Ohio Police shoot 16-year-old Ma’Khia Bryant.
« Reply #50 on: April 23, 2021, 05:07:45 PM »
It's jaw dropping the lengths that BLM supporter celebrities, politicians & civil rights activists are willing to go to in making an attacker out to be a victim & still demonising the police, as if this was some racist murder.

I think this footage shows their complaint isn't about bad cops at all but rather a hatred for all cops.

The camera footage clearly shows who was being the aggressor in the incident & who were trying to defend themselves.

The footage of the shooting shows an almost text book like example of when lethal force is justifiable in defence of another.

But, no doubt the call of #Justice For Ma'khia, will continue indefinitely, since it seems pretty obvious the officer can't be charged with anything.

There was no unnecessary use of force or reckless/negligent behaviour on display in the slightest.

I agree absolutely.  Not only was she intent on at least causing serious harm, it was towards another black person.  Do BLM think that this is okay?

The Policeman is now out of the loop.  He killed a black girl in defence of another black girl.  Take that to Court, if they dare.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Ohio Police shoot 16-year-old Ma’Khia Bryant.
« Reply #51 on: April 23, 2021, 08:40:59 PM »

I am fast getting beyond understanding of what is going on.

I don't have the time or patience to trawl through The Internet to look for other likewise Cases, especially in America.  But they do seem to only come up with Cases of white policemen killing black people.  I don't want to know if black Policemen killed white people, sad though it might be.  But it does happen.

I wouldn't have lasted ten minutes in The British Police Service.  But Loners don't do well despite having a better idea of what they are supposed to be doing.

America can now go and stuff itself.  It will all come to ruin while BLM briefly take over.

I don't know if black people behave more badly, but I bet that some of them do.

I have tried for all of my life not to put people in boxes no matter who they are.

I grew up in a London that was coloured by people of colour, some of whom were enormously useful after The War.  They were just there and with every right to be so.  Some of them were a bit uppety, mostly the good looking ones, but generally this is what it is all about.  Isn't it? 

But it is how we perceive them that matters.

America slaughtered thousand of American Indians because they didn't understand that these people only wanted to help them.  They were afraid.

I don't have the patience to go into slavery.  It was too long ago and perhaps too many of them. 

I myself am the great grand daughter of a Romany, which appeared to be some cause for shame.  My entire family pretended that this never happened.  And so they deprived me of who I am.  And I am a couple of shades darker than some, much to my pleasure.  I spent enough time lying in the Sun to know what colour I wanted to be.

Not quite the same thing of course.  But this probably the best that you all are going to get from me.

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Re: Ohio Police shoot 16-year-old Ma’Khia Bryant.
« Reply #52 on: April 24, 2021, 06:38:27 AM »

MSNBC's Joy Reid has argued that something must have 'scared' 16-year-old Ma'Khia Bryant before she lunged at another woman with a knife and was shot dead by a cop.

Police were called to a chaotic scene at the foster home in Columbus, Ohio, on Tuesday, and police officer Nicholas Reardon opened fire on Ma'Khia when she launched her knife attack.

The events that took place before police arrived remain uncertain, but Ma'Khia's foster mother Angela Moore has said the teen had argued with two of her former foster children over an untidy bed. 

During her broadcast of 'The ReidOut' on MSNBC on Thursday, Joy made an argument defending Bryant's actions before the shooting.

'We don't know the details of what happened beforehand but I'm bothered that no one is asking what could've scared a 16-year-old girl enough that she felt that she had to grab a kitchen knife facing two adult women,' Reid said.

'No one's asking what would've scared a kid who's in a foster situation so much that she felt that she needed to defend herself or pick up a knife,' she added.




Reid also took aim at people who have said the officer was protecting the other girls involved in the altercation when he opened fire on knife-wielding Ma'Khia.

'No one's asking that about her, they're just saying - people with this sort of concern trolling - pretending they care so much about those other two women,' Reid said.

'Do we really think these people are so concerned about those other two black women?'

Her comments drew a backlash from some on Twitter.

One wrote: '911 operators, take note. Ask if it’s a knife fight first, then do not dispatch police. Send Joy Reid.'

Conservative Curtis Houck said 'Joy Reid claims anyone defending the officer that shot #MaKiyahBryant is more concerned about the white officer and don't actually care about the lives of the other girls b/c - you guessed it - they're black' 

One user asked, 'Joy a black girl was saved doesn’t that life matter to you?'

Moore has told CNN that the initial argument was started when two of her former foster children came to Columbus, Ohio, on Tuesday for her birthday.
She said the fight over the housework started before she had arrived home from work.

'It was over keeping the house clean,' Moore, who was taking care of Bryant, said.

'The older one told them to clean up the house because "Mom doesn't like the house dirty." So that's how it all started.'

Moore said she was told that Ma'Khia had told the older girl: 'You're not the guardian of me.'

Moore said the girls argued 'all the time' since Ma'Khia moved into the home a few months ago and she was told by one of those involved in the brawl how it broke out.

'I never thought it would escalate like that,' Moore said.

She received a frantic phone call from one of the former foster children who is seen in the fateful police bodycam video wearing pink as Ma'Khia lunged at her with a knife before being gunned down by Reardon.

Moore said the young girl in pink told her: '"Mom, get home. Where are you? They're going crazy." She said they shot Ma'Kiah and I said, "Huh?" It was just crazy.'

The foster mother started to pray and received text messages from people sending their condolences before she had even arrived home to find the teenager dead.

Moore paid tribute to Ma'Khia as a 'fun' girl who loved to dance and help around the house, while her birth mother Paula said she loved music, cooking and making TikTok videos.

The revelations come after one of her neighbors, a military veteran, said his home security camera proves the Columbus Police officer had no choice but to shoot the teenager because more people could have been killed.

Donavon Brinson told Fox News Thursday morning he believes Bryant could have fatally stabbed the young woman she was seen lunging at with a knife if the cop hadn't opened fire.

'He could have either not fired and the young lady in pink could have been stabbed in the neck and brutally or fatally injured and then he could have shot [Bryant] and we could have had two [young women] dead - or he could have responded in the way that he did and one young lady lost her life,' he said.

A second neighbor also said he believes police bodycam footage shows Bryant was in 'full attack mode' and 'needed to be stopped' because a 'young lady's life was at stake'.

Reardon shot Bryant four times at around 4.45pm on Tuesday on the 3100 block of Legion Lane while responding to a 911 call about an attempted stabbing.

Footage from a security camera on the garage of Brinson's home across the street from the foster home captured a new angle of the shooting, giving a glimpse into the moments leading up to the fatal incident.

The 26-second video shows a girl - now known to be Bryant - walking down a driveway toward other people at the very same moment that a police car pulls up outside the home.

Bryant then appears to suddenly charge at another person in the driveway. What happened next was captured on police body camera footage released Wednesday.   

The police officer is seen taking a few steps toward a group of people in the driveway when Bryant starts swinging a knife wildly at another girl or woman, who falls backward.

The officer shouts several times to get down. Bryant then charges at another girl or woman, who is pinned against a car.

From a few feet away, with people on either side of him, the officer fires four shots, and Bryant slumps to the ground. A black-handled blade similar to a kitchen knife or steak knife lies on the sidewalk next to her.

A man immediately yells at the officer: 'You didn't have to shoot her! She's just a kid, man!'

The officer responds: 'She had a knife. She just went at her.'

Bryant enrolled at Independence High School in February. She was a foster child in the care of Franklin County.

Nicholas Reardon, the officer who fired the fatal shots, is currently not on street duty, pending the results of an investigation into the shooting.

Joy Reid is no stranger to making controversial statements on her show.

In March, she tweeted, 'I'll say it again: people on the right would trade all the tax cuts for the ability to openly say the n-word like in 'the good old days.''

'To them, not being able to be openly racist and discriminatory without consequence is oppression. Trump is the avatar for this 'freedom.''

Reid's tweet came the same day she said on her show that states like Texas and Mississippi only want black people to get vaccines because white people want black people to 'get their behinds into the factory and make me my steaks.' 

In 2018, old tweets posted by Reid years earlier about 'rentboys' and 'grimey closet-cases' resurfaced days after the MSNBC host tried to deny writing homophobic blog comments appearing under her name.

She claimed she'd been hacked after images from her blog, titled The Reid Report, were tweeted out. 

In one tweet, Reid referred to Southern Baptist minister George Rekers, who was famously caught with a male prostitute, as a 'rentboy.'

'George 'Rentboy' Rekers resigns is still not gay,' Reid tweeted.

In another tweet, Reid said: 'Rush Limbaugh's fourth marriage offers a hopeful message for fat, grimey closet-cases everywhere. Get rich. (Karl Rover, you're on deck!).'

She also added: 'Report: Elton John, Who Is Gay, To Perform At Rush Limbaugh's Wedding. Elton to serenade the beard.'

Reid said the anti-gay references 'run counter to my personal beliefs and ideology' and had been included in the now-defunct blog in an 'effort to taint my character.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9505323/Joy-Reid-claims-MaKhia-Bryant-scared-lunged-girl-knife.html
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Re: Ohio Police shoot 16-year-old Ma’Khia Bryant.
« Reply #53 on: April 24, 2021, 06:58:45 AM »

MSNBC host Joy Reid is a constant anti-white, anti-police race baiter.

In her world, this is defending one's self....& is excusable because she was black, 16 & made cutesy Tik Tok videos.



At the beginning of the attempted stabbings shown in the footage the two women (who were former foster children at the home, aged 22 & 19) were out on the street & posing absolutely no threat to Ma'Khia.

The story goes that they had argued in the house with Ma'Khia about an unmade bed & the house being messy.

That's all, Ma'Khia was in no danger, both women were unarmed, it was Ma'Khia who emerged from the house with lethal intent.

If she was genuinely fearful of these two women she would not have gone outside.

Ma'Khia's last ever words were 'I'm going to stab the f..k out of you'.

Reading the comments from the likes of Joy Reid & others I feel like I watched a completely different video to the one they all saw.
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Re: Ohio Police shoot 16-year-old Ma’Khia Bryant.
« Reply #54 on: April 25, 2021, 12:19:31 PM »
MSNBC host Joy Reid is a constant anti-white, anti-police race baiter.

In her world, this is defending one's self....& is excusable because she was black, 16 & made cutesy Tik Tok videos.



At the beginning of the attempted stabbings shown in the footage the two women (who were former foster children at the home, aged 22 & 19) were out on the street & posing absolutely no threat to Ma'Khia.

The story goes that they had argued in the house with Ma'Khia about an unmade bed & the house being messy.

That's all, Ma'Khia was in no danger, both women were unarmed, it was Ma'Khia who emerged from the house with lethal intent.

If she was genuinely fearful of these two women she would not have gone outside.

Ma'Khia's last ever words were 'I'm going to stab the f..k out of you'.

Reading the comments from the likes of Joy Reid & others I feel like I watched a completely different video to the one they all saw.

Joy Reid is your typical brown noser, friend to all TV host. We've seen them all exude that act these last few weeks in the Chauvin trial.  It seems that TV news is underdog hungry these days in what is really a battle for ratings.
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A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

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Re: Ohio Police shoot 16-year-old Ma’Khia Bryant.
« Reply #55 on: April 25, 2021, 12:43:47 PM »
Joy Reid is your typical brown noser, friend to all TV host. We've seen them all exude that act these last few weeks in the Chauvin trial.  It seems that TV news is underdog hungry these days in what is really a battle for ratings.

They are going to be very satisfied with the next bodycam footage of police killing a black person due to be released.

Andrew Brown from North Carolina was reportedly shot in the back multiple times by multiple officers as he attempted to drive away from a drugs warrant.

The body cam footage is being withheld by police which suggests it may be problematic for them, several officers have either quit the force or are on leave during investigation.

I've read numerous reports that he was unarmed & the police fired into his vehicle shattering the rear windscreen as he drove away.  The ambulance dispatch reports bullet wounds to his back.

This one will not be a legally justifiable shooting & I think several officers may face murder charges.

When the video is released with more certain detail I will create a new thread on the subject.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/24/andrew-brown-shooting-seven-north-carolina-deputies-leave
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Re: Ohio Police shoot 16-year-old Ma’Khia Bryant.
« Reply #56 on: April 25, 2021, 02:28:08 PM »
IMO, every case has to be investigated and judged fairly based on circumstances, evidence and context.

If a police officer, or a military officer (irrespective of skin colour or ethnicity) used appropriate force to stop and search / restrain a suspect (again, irrespective of skin colour or ethnicity), based on reasonable cause, I don't have a problem.

Where I have a problem (with the skin/ ethnicity issue) is when this isn't the case.

I also have a problem with police brutality in general, as in an excessive use of force relative to the circumstances.  It can also be those of the same colour / ethnicity doing so, which raises other issues.

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Re: Ohio Police shoot 16-year-old Ma’Khia Bryant.
« Reply #57 on: April 25, 2021, 02:49:34 PM »
Newark cops, with reform, didn’t fire a single shot in 2020

Worth a read, IMO.

https://www.nj.com/news/2021/01/newark-cops-with-reform-didnt-fire-a-single-shot-in-2020-moran.html

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Re: Ohio Police shoot 16-year-old Ma’Khia Bryant.
« Reply #58 on: April 25, 2021, 03:45:07 PM »
Newark cops, with reform, didn’t fire a single shot in 2020

Worth a read, IMO.

https://www.nj.com/news/2021/01/newark-cops-with-reform-didnt-fire-a-single-shot-in-2020-moran.html
Great news but I can’t imagine the racists and gun loving brigade being too happy about it.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

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Re: Ohio Police shoot 16-year-old Ma’Khia Bryant.
« Reply #59 on: April 25, 2021, 08:14:01 PM »

Val Demings says officer in Ma'Khia Bryant shooting "responded as he was trained to do"

Washington — Congresswoman Val Demings, a Democrat from Florida and former chief of the Orlando Police Department, said Sunday the police officer who fatally shot 16-year-old Ma'Khia Bryant in Ohio last week appears to have responded in accordance with his training.

In an interview with "Face the Nation," Demings reflected on her time as a patrol officer and said those working in the community have to make split-second decisions.

"Everybody has the benefit of slowing the video down and seizing the perfect moment. The officer on the street does not have that ability. He or she has to make those split-second decisions and they're tough," Demings told "Face the Nation." "But the limited information that I know in viewing the video, it appears that the officer responded as he was trained to do with the main thought of preventing a tragedy and a loss of life of the person who was about to be assaulted."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/val-demings-officer-makhia-bryant-shooting/
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