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Offline Nicholas

Why is she making such claims?

Maybe she’s lies to protect the liar - in this case Sandra Lean who falsely claimed I’ve ‘trolled her for years’

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Offline Nicholas

Because she says she is allegedly being trolled? By whom?

I suspect she’s lying

Other than a couple of tweets in response to her nonsense on Amanda Knox and Sandra Lean - which I shared links to on the forum - I’ve had no other interaction with her


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Offline TruthSeeker2003

Maybe she’s lies to protect the liar - in this case Sandra Lean who falsely claimed I’ve ‘trolled her for years’

Why make such claims? Sympathy?
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Offline TruthSeeker2003

I suspect she’s lying

Other than a couple of tweets in response to her nonsense on Amanda Knox and Sandra Lean - which I shared links to on the forum - I’ve had no other interaction with her


Clearly playing the sympathy card
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Offline TruthSeeker2003

Maybe she’s lies to protect the liar - in this case Sandra Lean who falsely claimed I’ve ‘trolled her for years’

Lynn Wardlaw

I appear to have been deleted from the other group.  Following the statement from Lisa Peden I simply asked if this meant Sandra would no longer be involved in the campaign.  I am confused about the whole situation.  Sandra has been fighting for Luke for 18 years. Without her would the podcasts documentaries and more importantly the new legal team even have happened.

Another one blindly following Sandra. Does her 18 years mean that she is right? 🤷‍♀️🤔🤥
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Offline TruthSeeker2003

Typical guilty killer behaviour

And Sandra Lean will have experienced this behaviour from Luke & Corinne Mitchell for many years - You only need look back at some of the public statements made back in 2014 - at a time when Sandra Lean told me she thought Luke might be guilty and his mother covering for him (Or words to the effect of..)

Do you have a copy of Lean’s comments?
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Offline Nicholas

Typical guilty killer behaviour

And Sandra Lean will have experienced this behaviour from Luke & Corinne Mitchell for many years - You only need look back at some of the public statements made back in 2014 - at a time when Sandra Lean told me she thought Luke might be guilty and his mother covering for him (Or words to the effect of..)

Do you have a copy of Lean’s comments?

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Then on 16th July 2014
“A CRIMINOLOGIST who spearheaded efforts to overturn Luke Mitchell’s conviction for the murder of his girlfriend Jodi Jones has withdrawn from the campaign to free him.
Dr Sandra Lean, who highlighted his case in her book No Smoke! The Shocking Truth About British Justice, led the battle against Mitchell’s life sentence alongside his mother, Corinne.
Her withdrawal follows a ruling by the Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission (SCCRC), which found there were no grounds to challenge the guilty verdict.
Following the report’s publication, Dr Lean admitted it was a “shattering blow” to the long-running campaign to clear 25-year-old Mitchell’s name, but said he would “not give up his fight”.
Sources said Mrs Mitchell had become unhappy with Dr Lean’s involvement in the wake of the SCCRC ruling, which followed two years of investigation by Scotland’s official justice watchdog.
Dr Lean would not comment on any factors behind her departure, adding the “reasons would remain private as a matter of respect”.
Mrs Mitchell confirmed Dr Lean had left, but did not want to comment further.
Dr Lean said: “I really have nothing to say about this. I believe Luke is 100 per cent completely innocent. The reason for my withdrawal will remain private as a matter of respect.”
Dr Lean added she would not be involved with the website and forum set up to promote Mitchell’s cause as “I no longer have power of attorney”.
But a source said: “Mrs Mitchell blames Dr Lean for the SCCRC appeal failing, which is completely wrong. Dr Lean has dedicated ten years of her life to the cause and has done a really good job.
“It’s appalling for her to be treated this way and it’s left the campaign in disarray.”

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/crime/criminologist-withdraws-from-fight-to-free-luke-mitchell-1-3478153

Sandra Leans co admin at Wrongly Accused Person Organsation, Billy Middleton, explains in his latest rendering...

The road to where things now are for Luke and his case has been a long, difficult and often stressful one for all those who have genuinely believed in and supported him. I say genuinely because, as we know from experience, not everyone who becomes involved in cases such as this have genuine motives. Sandra became involved at a much earlier stage than most, but I don't think anyone with any credibility would suggest she has been anything other than supportive, or that she hasn't tried hard for almost 11 years, at great personal hardship, and often in difficult circumstances, to both help and to expose facts of the case which otherwise would probably still not be known.

Unfortunately, shortly before the SCCRC refusal, at a time when she knew it's decision was imminent, Sandra came to a point whereby she was no longer prepared to carry on and wrote to Luke explaining why. She remains supportive to this day. Anyone involved in the horror of fighting a wrongful conviction will understand the ever present difficulties of the situation.

Luke was merely a child himself when he was incarcerated, now, although he's not been allowed to develop as he should have been, he's a man. What he does now, and the choices he now makes are his alone to make and his responsibility. I wish him well, hope he makes wise choices and is someday successful. For me every day longer will be yet another too long for both him and Jodi to finally get the justice they deserve. However, in the absence of the connection that once existed, and the mandate which went along with it to validate what has been exposed both here on the forum and on his caseblog, WAP is in a difficult position. It is the most sensitive of cases, and the extent and nature of what has been highlighted could only be done in large part due to the fact it has been done on the basis of having access to the supporting documents. Clearly that is no longer the case, and while I had hoped to be able to archive it due to a SCCRC referral, I don't really see how it can remain available.

So while I wish Luke well and hope for a positive outcome, anything which depends on access to his paperwork will have to be taken offline in a week's time roughly. It does not in any way reflect a change in opinion on his case, and if anyone wants to start a topic which isn't notably said to be backed up by case papers they are perfectly free to do so in the general forum area as with any other deserved case providing discussion remains polite, respectful to all concern and dignified.l

Considerable thought has been given to this decision, and it has not been arrived at lightly, but sadly I can't see how, given the nature of the case and all that goes along with it how it can remain now.



www.forum.wronglyaccusedperson.org.uk/series-on-cases-from-sandra-leans-book-no-smoke/luke-mitchell-wrongly-convicted-of-murder-general/150/
« Last Edit: June 27, 2021, 08:44:29 AM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Posted today on the ‘unofficial’ LM Facebook page by Lisa C Reynolds Peden ⬇️

THIS STATEMENT IS FROM LUKE AND CORINNE:

‘I have spoken to Luke and Corinne both their wishes are that everyone who is able to, attends the protest on the 17th of July in Edinburgh! They are both one hundred percent behind this group and the protest that's been organised! Luke has spoken to  people the last few days and made it very clear that he will not allow ANYONE to speak for him anymore. He is a man now and will not stay in the background and longer. He has dealt with the person/people who have been telling people not to attend this protest because it wasn't organised by the 'official' group. This is not Luke's wishes and the protest is 100% legal. Luke has made it clear that the Free and retry Luke Mitchell group has his full backing and support. They I will now be posting all statements from Luke via myself.

 Also they wish that all the group's come together and that any previous issues are put to bed! Luke has said that he doesn't want animosity between the groups, everyone on these groups are supposed to be here for one reason only and should all be fighting for the same cause! Luke is in charge of his life from now NO ONE ELSE!! He has taken a back seat for far too long and isn't doing it anymore.

*If you are attending any protests please wear a mask and follow all covid guide lines that are in place on the date of the protest.*

Luke and Corinne thank everyone on this group! The support is absolutely amazing! From the bonus ball tickets to raising awareness and being involved and organising two protests! It's all greatly appreciated! All money this group has raised goes directly into a bank account for Corinne.

Luke does not want photos of Jodi distributed for his fight for justice, this is insensitive to Jodis family and friends, and creates bad press for him. It is not and has never been Luke's wishes for us to find the real killer. Our job is to get Luke free and home to his mum. For anyone else to be investigated and/or charged Luke must be acquitted first.

Luke has also advised Sandra that all documents that have been withheld from the public for years be released immediately. He has been too concerned about upsetting other people, and following other wishes,but has lost his childhood, teenage years and adolescence. He will not stand for this anymore.

Luke appreciates your support and welcomes future peaceful protests and any other means of support which are within the law. All ideas from ANY groups MUST be ran by Luke in the first instance before anything is done.

Also Luke has made it very clear that the 'official' group does not speak for him nor has it ever. If you have any questions or would like to run anything by Luke please message myself as I am in daily contact with Corinne and every two days with Luke.

THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT AND HELPING ME FIGHT FOR MY FREEDOM!! BIG THINGS ARE COMING!!

Luke and Corinne have gave me permission to share with this group some pictures from his childhood. These pictures are not in the public domain. So keep your eyes peeled, I will post one later today!
💞💞💞

#lukemitchellisinnocent  #freelukemitchell


Sandra Lean stated during her live video (13th June 2021)

I spoke to Luke on Tuesday or Wednesday sorry I don’t even lost track of time and erm his he he was he was upset and you’ve got to understand you know Luke doesn’t he doesn’t know the extent of social media like we do because he doesn’t have access to it and his wish was that we would all get round the table and sort it out so that we were all working together and it was really really really hard to to have to say to him it’s been tried it’s been tried and the danger with people running off wanting to do their own thing is that I spoke about this way back at the beginning unintended consequences you could do something today that seems like a great idea and it probably looks like a great idea but without the experience of how these things end up how do you know that next year or in five years that’s not gonna come back as an obstacle as an aspect to the case and the answer is you don’t so when I ask people not to do things or not to do things in a certain way it’s because I know how these things can go galloping off and end up in disaster So that’s that’s where we’re at so I spoke to Luke earlier this week couple of amazing things...”


he doesn’t know the extent of social media like we do because he doesn’t have access to it’

By he ‘doesn’t have access to it’ I think what Sandra Lean means is Luke has never used it

Luke Mitchell will have a concept of social media because unless he doesn’t watch tv or read or speak to other people it’s part and parcel of our every day lives nowadays - including within prisons

This isn’t about Luke not knowing the extent of social media - this is all about people’s personalities - including Sandra Leans

And Luke Mitchell will know a whole lot about varying personality types and people’s behaviour - he’s not an idiot - as Corinne pointed out to James English
« Last Edit: June 27, 2021, 10:34:50 AM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Sandra Lean stated during her live video (13th June 2021)

I spoke to Luke on Tuesday or Wednesday sorry I don’t even lost track of time and erm his he he was he was upset and you’ve got to understand you know Luke doesn’t he doesn’t know the extent of social media like we do because he doesn’t have access to it and his wish was that we would all get round the table and sort it out so that we were all working together and it was really really really hard to to have to say to him it’s been tried it’s been tried and the danger with people running off wanting to do their own thing is that I spoke about this way back at the beginning unintended consequences you could do something today that seems like a great idea and it probably looks like a great idea but without the experience of how these things end up how do you know that next year or in five years that’s not gonna come back as an obstacle as an aspect to the case and the answer is you don’t so when I ask people not to do things or not to do things in a certain way it’s because I know how these things can go galloping off and end up in disaster So that’s that’s where we’re at so I spoke to Luke earlier this week couple of amazing things...”


he doesn’t know the extent of social media like we do because he doesn’t have access to it’

By he ‘doesn’t have access to it’ I think what Sandra Lean means is Luke has never used it

Luke Mitchell will have a concept of social media because unless he doesn’t watch tv or read or speak to other people it’s part and parcel of our every day lives nowadays - including within prisons

This isn’t about Luke not knowing the extent of social media - this is all about people’s personalities - including Sandra Leans

And Luke Mitchell will know a whole lot about varying personality types and people’s behaviour - he’s not an idiot - as Corinne pointed out to James English

Sandra Lean stated today (27th June 2021) during what she called her ‘last live’ video

”I spoke with Luke the day before this statement was posted and a great deal of what was in the statement didn’t come up in that conversation at all and what did come up wasn’t discussed in the tone or the interpretation that the statement would suggest so yet it came as a little bit of a surprise to me as well the day after erm I’d had a conversation with Luke I knew decisions were being taken about the direction of the campaign but not anything like what was said in the statement…”
« Last Edit: June 27, 2021, 05:06:05 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Say what? - Where is the new legal team?

Do you think there really ever was a new legal team?
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Offline Nicholas

Sandra Lean stated today (27th June 2021) during what she called her ‘last live’ video

”I spoke with Luke the day before this statement was posted and a great deal of what was in the statement didn’t come up in that conversation at all and what did come up wasn’t discussed in the tone or the interpretation that the statement would suggest so yet it came as a little bit of a surprise to me as well the day after erm I’d had a conversation with Luke I knew decisions were being taken about the direction of the campaign but not anything like what was said in the statement…”

I don’t suppose this is the first time things have been like this ⬆️

I do however suspect it’s the first time Sandra Lean has chosen to comment publicly on it
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Offline Nicholas

Sandra Lean stated today (27th June 2021) during what she called her ‘last live’ video

”I spoke with Luke the day before this statement was posted and a great deal of what was in the statement didn’t come up in that conversation at all and what did come up wasn’t discussed in the tone or the interpretation that the statement would suggest so yet it came as a little bit of a surprise to me as well the day after erm I’d had a conversation with Luke I knew decisions were being taken about the direction of the campaign but not anything like what was said in the statement…”


Will Luke Mitchell now finally confess to his crimes of having killed [Name removed]’s and for being too much of a coward to admit the truth for all these years?
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Offline Nicholas

Posted today on the ‘unofficial’ LM Facebook page by Lisa C Reynolds Peden ⬇️

THIS STATEMENT IS FROM LUKE AND CORINNE:

‘I have spoken to Luke and Corinne both their wishes are that everyone who is able to, attends the protest on the 17th of July in Edinburgh! They are both one hundred percent behind this group and the protest that's been organised! Luke has spoken to  people the last few days and made it very clear that he will not allow ANYONE to speak for him anymore. He is a man now and will not stay in the background and longer. He has dealt with the person/people who have been telling people not to attend this protest because it wasn't organised by the 'official' group. This is not Luke's wishes and the protest is 100% legal. Luke has made it clear that the Free and retry Luke Mitchell group has his full backing and support. They I will now be posting all statements from Luke via myself.


This reminds me of the fiasco re killer Simon Hall from 2012/13
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Offline Dexter


Will Luke Mitchell now finally confess to his crimes of having killed [Name removed]’s and for being too much of a coward to admit the truth for all these years?

Why would he? Do you think that some of the comments in the statement have been exaggerated in a desperate attempt for the other group to gain control over what was classed the official group?

Offline Nicholas

Do you think that some of the comments in the statement have been exaggerated in a desperate attempt for the other group to gain control over what was classed the official group?

No

I’m of the view this has come directly from killer Luke Mitchell and his mother and that the public are finally seeing a glimpse of his psychopathic personality

Sandra Lean stated today (27th June 2021) during what she called her ‘last live’ video

”I spoke with Luke the day before this statement was posted and a great deal of what was in the statement didn’t come up in that conversation at all and what did come up wasn’t discussed in the tone or the interpretation that the statement would suggest so yet it came as a little bit of a surprise to me as well the day after erm I’d had a conversation with Luke I knew decisions were being taken about the direction of the campaign but not anything like what was said in the statement…”


The above suggests Luke Mitchell presents differently depending on who he’s speaking with

”They are highly manipulative and chameleon like as they will play a role designed to meet your expectations:

'A psychopath can appear strong, naive, dominant, honest, submissive, trustworthy, worldly, or whatever he or she believes will get others to respond positively to manipulative overtures...'


https://www.remorselessfiction.com/chameleons.html


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