More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case

[Vertigo Swirl]

It took her a lot longer than the Smiths to come forward, didn't it?

Journalists protect their sources, until such a time as it is expedient to throw them under the bus, usually when it turns out just how bent they are.  So it took SF a long time to get to that point but at least the penny dropped eventually.

[Carana]

In many examples the information wasn't quite correct, like Brunt's 100% DNA match. The McCann statements that a Spanish TV reporter claimed to have bore no relationship to the originals. Then there are those working with the police; translators, interpreters and so on. Not to mention family and friends of policemen who may have known snippets. Don't assume!

What was this?

[G-Unit]

What was this?

This is what Kate McCann was reported to have said in her statement;

"While we were having breakfast, Maddie said 'Mummy why didn't you come when we were crying last night,'" she toldpolice in a statement broadcast by Telecinco TV.

"Gerry and I spoke for a couple of minutes and agreed to keep a closer watch over the children."
https://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=4634136&page=1

This is what she actually said in her statement;

"on the morning of Thursday May 3rd, Madeleine asked the interviewee why she had not come to look in the bedroom when the twins were crying."

She said nothing about agreeing to keep a closer watch over the children.

[Carana]

This is what Kate McCann was reported to have said in her statement;

"While we were having breakfast, Maddie said 'Mummy why didn't you come when we were crying last night,'" she toldpolice in a statement broadcast by Telecinco TV.

"Gerry and I spoke for a couple of minutes and agreed to keep a closer watch over the children."
https://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=4634136&page=1

This is what she actually said in her statement;

"on the morning of Thursday May 3rd, Madeleine asked the interviewee why she had not come to look in the bedroom when the twins were crying."

She said nothing about agreeing to keep a closer watch over the children.

Could you be a bit more explicit  as to how you interpret this so-called discrepancy?

[G-Unit]

Could you be a bit more explicit  as to how you interpret this so-called discrepancy?

The journalist claimed certain things were said in the statements, but they weren't.

[Vertigo Swirl]

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[Carana]

The journalist claimed certain things were said in the statements, but they weren't.

You're right that the last sentence isn't in the summary (statement) of Kate's pre-arguida interview on 6 September 2007.

Hmmm.

That must be the Nacho Abad saga. One of the very few leaks during Rebelo's time. I find it possible that it had been copied for a rainy day prior to him taking over, although that's pure speculation on my part.

Which still doesn't explain where that last sentence appeared from.


A bit of context...

The McCanns' had gone to Brussels to promote an EU-wide child kidnap alert system, and which had received quite a bit of media coverage. And, from memory, both the media and social media were still covering it over the weekend.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-missing-mccanns-interview-idUKGOR06572920080411

(April 10, 2008 appears to have been a Thursday and I can't now remember how long they stayed, nor which day they arrived.)

Over that same time frame Corte Real, Paiva and 2 others had gone to the UK to visit the FSS and listen in on some of the rogs (interestingly they didn't even stay for DP's, which was on the Friday). *

*ETA, I think I may have mixed up two trips to the UK. It wouldn't have been the trip with Corte Real, Paiva et al., to the FSS, but a different trip by Rebelo at the time of the rogs. Both tall and lanky. My bad.



On 15 April, there was this article in the Expresso.

In it, Nacho Abado affirms that he had a document to the effect of what he quoted, that the McCanns had "tacitly acknowledged" it's existence (whether he told them the entire supposed quote, or just the bit about "where were you" isn't clear).

It then mentions the fact that this "bombshell" appeared in the media the previous week (which corresponds to my recollection).

https://expresso.pt/dossies/dossiest_actualidade/dos_madeleine_mccan/jornalista-espanhol-contraria-declaracoes-da-pj-no-caso-maddie=f294306

It was hardly in the McCanns' interest to have attention diverted to that crying episode. Neither was it in Rebelo's, who needed to be seen as restoring order, including the windy PJ windows.

Could Nacho Thingy have been encouraged to add that bit? If so, hardly by the McCanns. Perhaps he just added it himself?

[G-Unit]

You're right that the last sentence isn't in the summary (statement) of Kate's pre-arguida interview on 6 September 2007.

Hmmm.

That must be the Nacho Abad saga. One of the very few leaks during Rebelo's time. I find it possible that it had been copied for a rainy day prior to him taking over, although that's pure speculation on my part.

Which still doesn't explain where that last sentence appeared from.


A bit of context...

The McCanns' had gone to Brussels to promote an EU-wide child kidnap alert system, and which had received quite a bit of media coverage. And, from memory, both the media and social media were still covering it over the weekend.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-missing-mccanns-interview-idUKGOR06572920080411

(April 10, 2008 appears to have been a Thursday and I can't now remember how long they stayed, nor which day they arrived.)

Over that same time frame Corte Real, Paiva and 2 others had gone to the UK to visit the FSS and listen in on some of the rogs (interestingly they didn't even stay for DP's, which was on the Friday).

On 15 April, there was this article in the Expresso.

In it, Nacho Abado affirms that he had a document to the effect of what he quoted, that the McCanns had "tacitly acknowledged" it's existence (whether he told them the entire supposed quote, or just the bit about "where were you" isn't clear).

It then mentions the fact that this "bombshell" appeared in the media the previous week (which corresponds to my recollection).

https://expresso.pt/dossies/dossiest_actualidade/dos_madeleine_mccan/jornalista-espanhol-contraria-declaracoes-da-pj-no-caso-maddie=f294306

It was hardly in the McCanns' interest to have attention diverted to that crying episode. Neither was it in Rebelo's, who needed to be seen as restoring order, including the windy PJ windows.

Could Nacho Thingy have been encouraged to add that bit? If so, hardly by the McCanns. Perhaps he just added it himself?

That's not the only bit of his story which doesn't fit with the statements, so he was either misquoting the originals or he didn't have them.

Misquoting them would have defeated his objective, which was to convince his audience that he had the statements in his possesion.

So he either defeated his own objectives or whatever documents he had were not copies of the original statements.

[Snowgirl]

This is what Kate McCann was reported to have said in her statement;

"While we were having breakfast, Maddie said 'Mummy why didn't you come when we were crying last night,'" she toldpolice in a statement broadcast by Telecinco TV.

"Gerry and I spoke for a couple of minutes and agreed to keep a closer watch over the children."
https://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=4634136&page=1

This is what she actually said in her statement;

"on the morning of Thursday May 3rd, Madeleine asked the interviewee why she had not come to look in the bedroom when the twins were crying."

She said nothing about agreeing to keep a closer watch over the children.

She told that story in tv interviews I saw but said nothing about agreeing to keep a closer watch over the children .

[Carana]

Ah. Related to the above, I've just found a trace of what is now a vague memory.


Maddie: ‘Mummy, why did you let us cry?’
Thursday 10 Apr 2008 10:25 pm

Madeleine McCann asked her mother hours before her disappearance: ‘Why didn’t you come when we were crying last night?’, it was revealed.

https://metro.co.uk/2008/04/10/maddie-mummy-why-did-you-let-us-cry-82068/

As I thought I'd remembered, the leak appeared the very day they were lobbying for an EU-wide child alert in Brussels.

[G-Unit]

She told that story in tv interviews I saw but said nothing about agreeing to keep a closer watch over the children .

In their statements, however, both parents said;

"on the morning of the 3rd May, when Madeleine asked the witness the reason why they had not gone to her room when the twins were crying."

On 10th May Gerry changed his story;

"While they were taking breakfast MADELEINE addressed the mother and asked her ?why didn't you come last night when S*** and I were crying??."
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm

In interviews Kate changed Madeleine's words to "we were crying" without specifying who "we" were.

[Carana]

That's not the only bit of his story which doesn't fit with the statements, so he was either misquoting the originals or he didn't have them.

Misquoting them would have defeated his objective, which was to convince his audience that he had the statements in his possesion.

So he either defeated his own objectives or whatever documents he had were not copies of the original statements.

Although some of it seems a bit made-up, / inaccurate, some details do refer to elements in the files (months before they were officially released.
https://metro.co.uk/2008/04/10/maddie-mummy-why-did-you-let-us-cry-82068/

Irrespective of which details are accurate or not, it's the timing that intrigues me. Why choose the very day of an appeal for a coordinated EU-wide child alert?

[Carana]

That's not the only bit of his story which doesn't fit with the statements, so he was either misquoting the originals or he didn't have them.

Misquoting them would have defeated his objective, which was to convince his audience that he had the statements in his possesion.

So he either defeated his own objectives or whatever documents he had were not copies of the original statements.

For the sake of accuracy, I corrected a bit in my post that you quoted as to who went to the UK at the time. It wouldn't have been the Corte Real trip to the FSS, but Rebelo who went for the rogs.

[Carana]

I hadn't realised (or had forgotten) that there is a long thread here on the Nacho Abad / Telecinco saga.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11196.0

[Brietta]

MADDIE MCCANN
FRIEND WHO WAS WATCHING THE MCCANN, AND HELPED THE GERMAN SUSPECT, CAN'T BE ARRESTED
Portuguese - who watched over the McCann and gave indications to the German suspect to have killed Maddie - did not commit any crime under Portuguese law.

Christian Brückner's friend who worked at the Ocean Club and who reportedly provided information about the McCann couple's routines cannot be punished.

According to the Correio da Manhã, in the light of Portuguese law, the man does not incur any sanction even if he knew that the German's goal was to rob the house where the English were.

Brückner's accomplice was Portuguese
The Portuguese and former tourist village employee revealed to authorities that he passed various information to his friend about the habits of English tourists, including Maddie's family. Brückner, who had previously been convicted of shoplifting and was referred to as sexual abuse, will have known through his friend that several tourists used to spend hours having dinner and left property in the apartments.

Leia mais em: https://www.vip.pt/maddie-mccann-amigo-que-vigiava-os-mccann-e-ajudou-o-suspeito-alemao-nao-pode-ser-preso

Has there been a plea bargain of sorts entered into here? and that is why the alleged accomplice is said to be 'immune' from prosecution.
If as is said the employee had Brueckner's number in his phone he couldn't have had a leg to stand on when confronted and would have to have thought on his feet to avoid becoming the second suspect.
The information he was able to supply must have been very valuable to the investigators.

If that information is valid now - it was even more so back in 2007.  The tremendously sad thing is that the 'missing link' to it was there all the time nestling away in the retrieved phone data in police hands.


Suspected of killing Maddie had accomplice at ocean club
Catherine da Eira Ballestero
jun 7, 2020
Christian Brückner received information from a former employee of the Algarve village, who revealed to him the habits of the English. I'd tell him how long it took them to have dinner and told him they had valuables in the apartments.

There is increasing news linking Christian Brückner, a 43-year-old German, to the abduction and possible murder of Madeleine McCann. After it was known that the suspect lived in the area of Praia da Luz at the time of the crime, and that he had a criminal record, it was made public that the German had an "undercover" in the Ocean Club, the Algarve village where the McCann were vacationing, along with a group of friends.

A former employee of the venture revealed to authorities that he passed on information about the habits of the English group, including Maddie's family, Christian Brückner. Already convicted previously of petty theft and referred to for sexual abuse of children, the German will have known, through his accomplice, that the various couples used to spend hours for dinner, leaving valuables in the apartments, writes the "Correio da Manhã".

The hypotheses about what happened inside the McCann apartment are several, but one of those shared by the Portuguese Judicial Police and the German authorities is that Christian Brückner entered the house to rob her when he realized the presence of the three children , Maddie and the twin brothers. Surprised by this fact, and recalling the background related to child abuse, the German will have decided to take the older one.

Although only now the authorities are considering Christian Brückner as the main suspect in the media case, the German's phone number has been in the process since 2007, due to the fact that it was one of the devices fired in the vicinity of the village a few hours before Maddie's disappearance. However, it wasn't until the suspect told a friend that he knew what happened to the English girl that the Judiciary Police made the call between the number, which the former Ocean Club employee had on his personal calendar, and the German.

https://magg.sapo.pt/atualidade/artigos/maddie-cumplice-ocean-club