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Offline G-Unit

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #1035 on: November 21, 2021, 01:09:23 PM »
"Ultimately in charge". What does that mean? "The buck stops here?", as in they were above Amaral's pay grade?

IMP, the potential elephant in the rroom is the Cipriano case and any potential connection between the two.

As in the UK the SIO is in charge of his team's actions. Neves' lot were involved in the Cipriano case too.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #1036 on: November 21, 2021, 02:13:23 PM »
Why do you dismiss it as 'unimportant'? Police often ask witnesses the same questions again to test if they're anwers are consistent.

“While we were having breakfast, Maddie said ‘Mummy why didn’t you come when we were crying last night,’” she told police in a statement broadcast by Telecinco TV.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-madeleine-idUKWRI13622020080411

‘Why didn’t you come when Sean and I cried last night?’
[madeleine]
im well aware of police asking the same question several times.....its whether the different answers are significant...you seem to be of the opinion they are. I domt see these discrepancies as significant.

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Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #1037 on: November 21, 2021, 02:22:02 PM »
im well aware of police asking the same question several times.....its whether the different answers are significant...you seem to be of the opinion they are. I domt see these discrepancies as significant.

Which just goes to show how different we are.  ?{)(**
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Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #1038 on: November 21, 2021, 02:27:06 PM »
Which just goes to show how different we are.  ?{)(**

absolutely... I think we will have some definitive answers soon that will show who is right.

Offline Brietta

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #1039 on: November 21, 2021, 04:47:31 PM »
The names of those in charge, which you choose to ignore, were Neves and Encarnacao. In fact the only example of the rules governing investigations being breached was during their interview of the McCanns on 8th August. If Kate McCann's account was truthful, that is.

Isn't it strange that when it suits, coordinator (which title obviously has a different meaning in Portuguese than in English) Amaral has been selling himself as THE authority in the case.  But is portrayed as nothing more than a tea boy in the hierarchy by his hangers on.

The buck never quite stops at him as far as some are concerned.  The buck does stop at him quite clearly though as far as his latest machinations are concerned.  There is clearly no-one to blame but Amaral for the faked up Brueckner image nor the graffiti covered Westfalia for which even his most dyed in the wool support has been unable to come up with any excuses.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #1040 on: November 21, 2021, 04:56:33 PM »
I'm still wondering how CB's phone number was missed,  if they had followed up the fact that CB was in the area they may have been able to get DNA.   Poor Madeleine.

They might even have been able to recover Madeleine within the golden hours had they moved quickly enough.

Amaral has assured us on numerous occasions that he had the case solved before he had breakfast on the fourth (TTOTL).
Quite patently he hadn't but to this day neither he nor his following will let go of his delusions.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #1041 on: November 21, 2021, 05:28:37 PM »
I think you are obsessed with the unimportant..
There are far more important questions such as are the translated statements accurate... You think they are... I think they will contain errors and my view is supported by evidence
This is a trademark of conspiracy theorists whatever the subject may be, from holocaust denial to 9/11.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #1042 on: November 21, 2021, 05:31:52 PM »
I'll mention just one example. On 3rd May Madeleine McCann asked her parents a question. That question was.....what?

Where were you when the twins cried?
Where were you when Sean and I cried?
Where were you when we cried?

They are all facts in that all three have been recorded, but which one is true?
2 and 3 are the same, one is at leat 50% correct, so what’s the problem?  People’s accounts change with the re-telling over time, is this sinister?  No, usually not. Should we care about this trifling detail?  No, imo. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #1043 on: November 21, 2021, 05:43:02 PM »
Isn't it strange that when it suits, coordinator (which title obviously has a different meaning in Portuguese than in English) Amaral has been selling himself as THE authority in the case.  But is portrayed as nothing more than a tea boy in the hierarchy by his hangers on.

The buck never quite stops at him as far as some are concerned.  The buck does stop at him quite clearly though as far as his latest machinations are concerned.  There is clearly no-one to blame but Amaral for the faked up Brueckner image nor the graffiti covered Westfalia for which even his most dyed in the wool support has been unable to come up with any excuses.

I would argue that it was the UK press, the McCanns and their supporters who have chosen to highlight and inflate Amaral's importance.

I don't think 'tea boy' is the correct term to describe the person filling the role of coordinator in an inestigation. I would equate it to the role of 'silver commander' in UK policing;

"The silver commander commands and coordinates the overall tactical response in compliance with the strategy, and is the tactical commander of the incident."
https://www.app.college.police.uk/app-content/operations/command-and-control/command-structures/

She/he complies with, but doesn't decide on, the overall strategy, laid down by the gold commander.
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Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #1044 on: November 21, 2021, 05:50:10 PM »
2 and 3 are the same, one is at leat 50% correct, so what’s the problem?  People’s accounts change with the re-telling over time, is this sinister?  No, usually not. Should we care about this trifling detail?  No, imo.

It's not an ordinary conversation to be forgotten and changed over time though. It's one of the last sentences spoken by a child who disappeared off the face of the earth later that day. A sentence never to be forgotten.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #1045 on: November 21, 2021, 06:03:36 PM »
It's not an ordinary conversation to be forgotten and changed over time though. It's one of the last sentences spoken by a child who disappeared off the face of the earth later that day. A sentence never to be forgotten.

important in your opinion.....

Offline Brietta

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #1046 on: November 21, 2021, 06:10:32 PM »
It's not an ordinary conversation to be forgotten and changed over time though. It's one of the last sentences spoken by a child who disappeared off the face of the earth later that day. A sentence never to be forgotten.

In whatever form "one of the last sentences spoken by a child who disappeared off the face of the earth later that day" appears the actual occurrence was narrated by Kate McCann.

No-one would know anything at all about it but for that.

You really are scraping the bottom of the barrel when you are having to rely on the word of an individual you evidence such loathing and distrust of all and everything she has ever done or said while traducing her.

Really quite extraordinary.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #1047 on: November 21, 2021, 06:18:08 PM »
It's not an ordinary conversation to be forgotten and changed over time though. It's one of the last sentences spoken by a child who disappeared off the face of the earth later that day. A sentence never to be forgotten.
Oh please, enough with the sentimental, sanctimonious claptrap.  What is the significance in your view?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #1048 on: November 21, 2021, 06:29:40 PM »
Why do you dismiss it as 'unimportant'? Police often ask witnesses the same questions again to test if they're anwers are consistent.

“While we were having breakfast, Maddie said ‘Mummy why didn’t you come when we were crying last night,’” she told police in a statement broadcast by Telecinco TV.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-madeleine-idUKWRI13622020080411

‘Why didn’t you come when Sean and I cried last night?’
[madeleine]
Did you know that when you say “we” it means you plus one or more other person/people, therefore these two sentences do not contradict each other?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Brietta

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #1049 on: November 21, 2021, 07:26:00 PM »
I would argue that it was the UK press, the McCanns and their supporters who have chosen to highlight and inflate Amaral's importance.

I don't think 'tea boy' is the correct term to describe the person filling the role of coordinator in an inestigation. I would equate it to the role of 'silver commander' in UK policing;

"The silver commander commands and coordinates the overall tactical response in compliance with the strategy, and is the tactical commander of the incident."
https://www.app.college.police.uk/app-content/operations/command-and-control/command-structures/

She/he complies with, but doesn't decide on, the overall strategy, laid down by the gold commander.

You and other sceptics demonstrably play down Amaral's importance to the investigation. You are the people who reduce his role to nothing.

But it still does not go near to explaining the propaganda war embarked on by Amaral aided and abetted by his best mate and prolific criminal Cristovao not to mention other duped journalists such as Sandra Felguieras who broadcast and wrote about all his leaked fantasies.
Many of which are still believed to this day.

Amaral has spent the years since the night of Madeleine's disappearance living off her.  If you don't think so, that's your privilege but I think the evidence supports my opinion - not yours.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....