More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case

[Carana]

They said the most crucial bit of evidence was a white and brown camper van, parked near Joana's home in the days before she was abducted.

The vehicle, with German number plates, disappeared around the time she vanished.

They added: "There was a man living in there, but he hardly left the van. A week later the van was found abandoned in farmland in Praia da Luz. We told the police to investigate it, but they didn't listen to us."

She said the man had short, curly brown hair and was about 40 years old.

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The only article I can find & states 'in the days before she was abducted'

So there's no bias or anything.

The man they saw was around 40.

In 2004 Brueckner would have been around 25.

I'd agree that it doesn't sound like Brueckner himself, but did he have the van at the same time? Someone shared it with him at some point, but it's hard to pin down dates.

Looking for an early article that mentioned a darkish car that wasn't recognised by anyone in the village and seemed out of place / unusual. It could have been someone innocent passing through or by, but it might possibly have been the Jag.

[Wonderfulspam]

I'd agree that it doesn't sound like Brueckner himself, but did he have the van at the same time? Someone shared it with him at some point, but it's hard to pin down dates.

Looking for an early article that mentioned a darkish car that wasn't recognised by anyone in the village and seemed out of place / unusual. It could have been someone innocent passing through or by, but it might possibly have been the Jag.

Might, possibly have been?    Based on what?

Did Brueckner have sole possession of the only dark car in Portugal?

No.

Come on, this is the some vague nonsense.

Whilst ignoring the fact that the concerned parent didn't report the 8 year old missing for over 4 hours.

That's completely irrelevant isn't it, nothing suspicious about that in the slightest, is there?

But a car or a van, yes, that was probably Brueckner.

[Anthro]

Was there anything particularly suspicious or incriminating about this van sighting?

What was the van doing when it was spotted?

It would be interesting to know.

[Wonderfulspam]

It would be interesting to know.

Well, I'd be interested to know why McCann supporters see absolutely nothing suspicious about Leonor not calling the police.

It doesn't look like I'm going to get an answer on that.

[Wonderfulspam]

April Jones mother became concerned for her daughter after about 20 minutes, briefly looked for her, then dialled 999.

Why didn't she just leave it another 4 hours?

[Carana]

April Jones mother became concerned for her daughter after about 20 minutes, briefly looked for her, then dialled 999.

Why didn't she just leave it another 4 hours?

April Jones mother became concerned for her daughter after about 20 minutes, briefly looked for her, then dialled 999.

Why didn't she just leave it another 4 hours?

Might, possibly have been?    Based on what?

Did Brueckner have sole possession of the only dark car in Portugal?

No.

Come on, this is the some vague nonsense.

Whilst ignoring the fact that the concerned parent didn't report the 8 year old missing for over 4 hours.

That's completely irrelevant isn't it, nothing suspicious about that in the slightest, is there?

But a car or a van, yes, that was probably Brueckner.

I never said that it was probably him, but it might have been. He doesn't appear to have been investigated at the time despite his past.

I don't find anything unusual about how Leonor reacted at the time if you look back at the timeline (bearing in mind that it was a sleepy village, with a fiesta going on, with guys out looking for her and she had young kids at home).

[Wonderfulspam]

I never said that it was probably him, but it might have been. He doesn't appear to have been investigated at the time despite his past.

I don't find anything unusual about how Leonor reacted at the time if you look back at the timeline (bearing in mind that it was a sleepy village, with a fiesta going on, with guys out looking for her and she had young kids at home).

Seriously?

A child is missing after dark for over 4 hours, having only been sent on a 10 minute trip, & you see nothing suspicious about the police not being informed.

If your 8 year old went missing after 8pm you'd do the same would you?

[Wonderfulspam]

I don't see this being discussed on web sleuths.

Can't imagine why.

Not even The Right Honourable Member for Only Logical & Plausible Explanations seems to have an explanation.

[Carana]

Seriously?

A child is missing after dark for over 4 hours, having only been sent on a 10 minute trip, & you see nothing suspicious about the police not being informed.

If your 8 year old went missing after 8pm you'd do the same would you?

I take your point, but the circumstances were different.

[Wonderfulspam]

I take your point, but the circumstances were different.

Oh right, the circumstances were such that it wasn't particularly pressing to inform the police an 8 year old girl had gone missing.

I see.

[Anthro]

Well, I'd be interested to know why McCann supporters see absolutely nothing suspicious about Leonor not calling the police.

It doesn't look like I'm going to get an answer on that.

Your divide between so-called ‘supporters’ and ‘anti-supporters’ encompasses much more.

[Wonderfulspam]

Your divide between so-called ‘supporters’ and ‘anti-supporters’ encompasses much more.

What's the missing child procedure in Africa & how does parental concern play out in your part of the world?

Do you inform the police immediately or do you tend to just leave it a few hours?

[Anthro]

What's the missing child procedure in Africa & how does parental concern play out in your part of the world?

Do you inform the police immediately or do you tend to just leave it a few hours?

Theoretically, a missing child would be escalated to urgent. Yet, the principle rarely applies. 48 Hours is the norm.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Perhaps they were aware of the police’s penchant for beating false confessions out of people and were scared of being fitted up?   Why go out looking for a child if you know she’s chopped up in little pieces in your fridge?  Doesn’t seem very sensible behaviour to me.   Incidentally Joana was twice April’s age and perhaps it was not uncommon for her to be out and about playing or visiting friends.  I mean when I was a kid I was out for hours at a time, my parents never had a clue where I was modt of the time and I was often in the most dangerous of situations.  I really must call social services on them before they kick the bucket. 

[Wonderfulspam]

Perhaps they were aware of the police’s penchant for beating false confessions out of people and were scared of being fitted up?   Why go out looking for a child if you know she’s chopped up in little pieces in your fridge?  Doesn’t seem very sensible behaviour to me.   Incidentally Joana was twice April’s age and perhaps it was not uncommon for her to be out and about playing or visiting friends.  I mean when I was a kid I was out for hours at a time, my parents never had a clue where I was modt of the time and I was often in the most dangerous of situations.  I really must call social services on them before they kick the bucket.

Yeah she was 8 years old & it wasn't unusual for her to be out playing between 8pm & 12pm. Right.

Anyway, if that's why she didn't report her missing then why did she tell the GNR she hadn't made a call because she had no credit?

Which one was it?