Sandra's exit - The real reasons

[faithlilly]

Poor wee girl

Who? Dr Lean?

[rulesapply]

Who? Dr Lean?

No one is going to take that comment seriously.  Ask anyone. Away you go.

[faithlilly]

No one is going to take that comment seriously.  Ask anyone. Away you go.

Then make yourself clearer. You can when it suits.

[rulesapply]

Then make yourself clearer. You can when it suits.

Fair point.

[rulesapply]

Who? Dr Lean?

Never saw SL as a poor wee girl though. Don't think SL would appreciate being referred to as a wee girl. I wouldn't.  I'm a grown woman. However, fair point that I can be clear.

[Nicholas]

So very similar to John Morris and his book on mass murderer and child killer David Morris

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Struck+off+solicitor+was+taken+on+by+law+firm%3B+TRIBUNAL%3A+Swansea...-a088672757

Mass murderer and child killer David Morris died on 20th August 2021

Convicted but exonerated murderer Michael O’Brian is - as per usual - in the thick of all the drama

Michael A O’Brien
‘I always have done but the family are standing by Geraint I had a horrible message from one of them tonight via one of there friends I haven't made it public because they are grieving its not fair or right I should have to put up with this.

Michael A O’Brien
‘I have made my position clear I do not want to talk to Geraint Evans or members of Dai family and If I continue to get abuse or threats the police will be called and I will speak out in the media about what they are doing and saying about me. just because someone is grieving does not give them the right to allow their campaigns manager to threaten me or to level abuse at me through other people. bang out of order what's going on and I'm making a stand simple.

[Nicholas]

George Fergie
Hi guys
There’s gonny be some big changes to the group
A was gonny close it down but there’s to much effort went in so I’ve decided to archive and rebuild
Be back up and running in a couple of weeks

[Nicholas]

Of course there were choices but having gone down so many roads, different cases, Simons included - Admitting failure was/is not going to happen? For it is not seen as failure upon herself, is it? That is the problem as I see it.

Her personal idiosyncrasies are somewhat renowned are they not? The strength she strives in being blameless is, paradoxically, also her weakness? As we have seen in recent times, resulting in this retreat, for now. The same retreat that has happened at other points in time.

Whilst others my feel your objections against Ms Lean are unwarranted, I for the most part don't. I have made it very clear what my stance is, I make no bones over it. There are no room for lies in those claiming to seek truth?!

I recognise I cannot save all other victims from men like Simon Hall but I am appealing to your better nature to consider the impact your book could have on others. Whilst I fully understand you probably want to put it all behind you, there will be a point in the future imo where these matters will need addressing. Why wait when you can do something about it now?

(Source: http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8086.msg382459.html#msg382459)


I’m not so sure now she has a ‘better nature’ 

[rulesapply]

(Source: http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8086.msg382459.html#msg382459)


I’m not so sure now she has a ‘better nature’

If it's worth anything to you, Nicholas I don't think your attitude toward SL is unwarranted either.

[Nicholas]

If it's worth anything to you, Nicholas I don't think your attitude toward SL is unwarranted either.

 

[Nicholas]

If it's worth anything to you, Nicholas I don't think your attitude toward SL is unwarranted either.

I retracted this some time ago btw

I do not believe Sandra Lean knowingly deceived anyone regarding the Simon Hall case; let's make that clear

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8086.msg382473.html#msg382473

But then you may have realised this before now?

[rulesapply]

I retracted this some time ago btw
 http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8086.msg382473.html#msg382473

But then you may have realised this before now?

Sorry I quoted the wrong quote. Story of my time on here unfortunately. I was agreeing with Parky. At least  I meant to.

[Nicholas]

Sorry I quoted the wrong quote. Story of my time on here unfortunately. I was agreeing with Parky. At least  I meant to.

Thanks

[Nicholas]

If it's worth anything to you, Nicholas I don't think your attitude toward SL is unwarranted either.

‘Did anyone bother to check’  🙄

Sandra Lean

Were the details of the confession checked against all of the known information? Were there any aspects of the confession that didn't match the known information, or that didn't fit logically with what was claimed? Did anyone bother to check?

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8086.msg383168.html#msg383168

[rulesapply]

‘Did anyone bother to check’  🙄

Sandra Leanhttp://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8086.msg383168.html#msg383168

Honestly,  it all seems like a contradiction in terms to me by SL, regardless of case. SL has a knack of making anything fit her narrative for those blindly willing to believe. There's a pattern here. A pattern of dangerous, guilty men and SL never being wrong about anything but the two don't merge. Maybe SL is just a bad judge unwilling to admit so.