The Bambers: Murder at the farm - Sky Crime documentary

[Nicholas]

Patrick O'connor does not have any access whatsoever to any of Bambers evidence.  Only Bamber and his legal representative has that.

‘Mending our ‘safety net.’ was written by Patrick O’Connor[/b] ⬇️

https://doughty-street-chambers.newsweaver.com/Appeals/5nlr330255r

I wouldn’t be at all surprised to learn Patrick O’Connor has spoken to people like Dennis Eady or Mark Newby etc

‘In 2017 an ‘All Party Parliamentary group on Miscarriages of Justice’ was formed. This has spawned the ‘Westminster Commission on Miscarriages of Justice’, which has been taking evidence on the efficacy of our ‘safety net.’ They ask whether the ‘real possibility’ test is too subjective?

‘If you would like to discuss this article with Patrick O’Connor QC, please email here. 

The above excerpts are from Patrick O’Connors ‘Mending our ‘safety net’ blog

Westminster commission on miscarriages of justice looks at watchdog’s independence

‘Dr Dennis Eady of Cardiff University’s innocence project pointed out that the CCRC’s referrals had plummeted over the last three years – from a 20-year average of over 30 to just 13 last year. Eady said that a referral rate of ‘about 1%’ of the total number of applications represented ‘a snowball’s chance in hell’. ‘There’s a greater need now for a Royal Commission than there was in 1991. Things have got so bad, and so serious,’ he said.
https://www.thejusticegap.com/westminster-commission-on-miscarriages-of-justice-looks-at-watchdogs-independence/

Mark Newby says today he ‘was dleighted to contribute to this important work’

Mark Newby
@MarkNewbyqsj
Just out the Westminister Commission Report on Miscarriages of Justice , a very important Report , I was dleighted to contribute to this important work
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The APPG is delighted to publish the full report of the Westminster Commission on Miscarriages of Justice into the CCRC - the last chance for the wrongly convicted.

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[Nicholas]

Patrick O’Connor was the barrister of the convicted/exonerated killer of 14 year old Judith Roberts

14 year old Judith Roberts murder has been linked to Peter Sutcliffe 🙄 when the evidence in its entirety still points to Andrew Evans
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/tamworth-yorkshire-ripper-judith-roberts-15769992

As is Stephen Downing’s murder victim Wendy Sewell 🙄

Chris Clark ⬇️
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Ex-cop%3A+I+know+Ripper.+I%27ve+got+inside+his+head.+He+killed...-a0574392238

https://www.matlockmercury.co.uk/news/retired-detective-chris-clark-says-he-has-new-evidence-linking-yorkshire-ripper-death-bakewell-woman-wendy-sewell-2312526

[Nicholas]

Does anyone know why David James Smith has been promoted as a ‘Sunday times journalist’ by the Mindhouse TV production and not as a journalist and ex criminal cases review commissioner (CCRC) ?

[Nicholas]

It was widely known that some people in the establishment had a taste and a thirst for the perverse. 

Peter Hayman ⬇️

’Peter Hayman named as VIP who sexually abused boys at Dolphin Square apartment complex near Parliament’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2827378/Diplomat-Peter-Hayman-named-VIP-sexually-abused-boys-Dolphin-Square-apartment-complex-near-Parliament.html

However, if it's the truth you're looking for then we need to know and understand the players and their behaviours at the time.

⬇️

Star solicitor helped VIP avoid paedophilia prosecution
https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/law/star-solicitor-helped-vip-avoid-paedophilia-prosecution/5103226.article

’Prominent defence solicitor Sir David Napley played a role in helping a public figure escape prosecution for paedophilia offences in the 1970s, it emerged today. In a vignette of a bygone age of deference, a report by the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse reveals how Napley was able to go directly to the director of public prosecutors on behalf of his client, a diplomat who was a member of the discredited Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE).

‘Today's report demolishes allegations of organised sexual abuse in Westminster. However it describes the Hayman case as 'the best example' of a culture of deference existing in the 1970s.  'There is no question but that Hayman was the beneficiary of preferential, differential and unduly deferential treatment as a person of public prominence.'

’During this time Anji Greaves, the sister of Virginia - Jeremy’s girlfriend at the time - told him she would ask her godfather Sir David Napley of Kingsley Napley solicitors if he would be able to help with Jeremy’s defence case…’

[Nicholas]

Does anyone know why David James Smith has been promoted as a ‘Sunday times journalist’ by the Mindhouse TV production and not as a journalist and ex criminal cases review commissioner (CCRC) ?

If journalist David James Smith were still a CCRC commissioner would he be ‘strongly arguing for referral’ of Bamber’s 5 murder convictions?

March 2021
’A former commissioner, David James Smith told Newsnight that if he was still with the CCRC he would be ‘strongly arguing’ for referral. ‘’When you break it down each of the elements that led to the conviction has a weakness about them,’ he said.
https://www.thejusticegap.com/i-was-misled-oliver-campbells-lawyer-speaks-out/

Did he put himself forward to appear on the Mindhouse TV production or did they approach him?

He stated at the beginning of episode 4 of the docuseries,

‘There are anomalies in the evidence - Jeremy Bamber believes the police conspired to fit him up’

‘Since his conviction Jeremy Bamber has constantly claimed he’s innocent of these five murders - when I interviewed him in 2010 he was saying that err that he had seen other prisoners getting eaten up and bitten is what he would say you know err being a victim of a miscarriage of justice

‘It takes a particular mindset to be able to do the time as they say

‘When you’re convicted of murder as an adult you are sentenced to life imprisonment but for most people life doesn’t mean life it means thst you will come out eventually

In 1994 Jeremy Bamber was told by Michael Howard then the Home Secretary that his sentence was no longer at 25 year tariff it was actually a whole life tariff 

‘So given the whole life tariff means that he will be kept in prison until he dies - so of course he’s you know he’s got no reason not to keep protesting his innocence   

 

David James Smith goes on,

‘When I interviewed him he was saying that he had these two towers of papers in his cell - a hundred thousand documents he said all in these boxes and looking for ways to question the evidence that was used against  him by the prosecution and that’s you know his only hope really that is to justify a new referral back to the court of appeal 

 

Mindhouse TV omitted to include comments made by Judges at the ECHR in 2013 in particular Judge Power Forde

‘…. Article 3 encompasses what might be described as “the right to hope”. It goes no further than that. The judgment recognises, implicitly, that hope is an important and constitutive aspect of the human person. Those who commit the most abhorrent and egregious of acts and who inflict untold suffering upon others, nevertheless retain their fundamental humanity and carry within themselves the capacity to change. Long and deserved though their prison sentences may be, they retain the right to hope that, someday, they may have atoned for the wrongs which they have committed. They ought not to be deprived entirely of such hope. To deny them the experience of hope would be to deny a fundamental aspect of their humanity and, to do that, would be degrading.
https://hudoc.echr.coe.int/app/conversion/pdf/?library=ECHR&id=001-122664&filename=001-122664.pdf

[colsville]

If journalist David James Smith were still a CCRC commissioner would he be ‘strongly arguing for referral’ of Bamber’s 5 murder convictions?

The answer to that question is no, he would not be strongly arguing for referral of Bamber's 5 murder convictions.


CAL interviewed David James Smith for her book and as she provides a source for every quote she makes in the book, this is provided in the appendix that accompanies one particular quite attributed to David James Smith:

David James Smith, author interviews, 2013. David James Smith has
asked me to point out that he has joined the CCRC as a Commissioner
since this interview, that these observations reflect his personal views
prior to joining the Commission, and that should Jeremy Bamber ever
reapply to the CCRC, his submissions would be considered by a
Commissioner or Commissioners with no previous involvement in the
case.


The quote that the above disclaimer refers to is the following quote made  by David James Smith:

The CCRC have bent over backwards to be fair
to him. He’s had free access to all the papers, but ultimately nothing has so
far emerged that makes it likely he didn’t do it. And it’s incredibly easy to
pick away at inconsistencies – which there are bound to be in a case as
tragic, complex and far-reaching as this one. But it’s no good focusing on
little details, you have got to look at the whole picture. It’s not enough to
pull out this and that – everything has to be examined in context. That’s
been done, but it hasn’t made any difference to his incarceration


As far as I can see, David James Smith believes Jeremy Bamber to be guilty.  Maybe he hasn't always felt that way, but in 2013, when he was interviewed by CAL, he gives every indication that he thinks Bamber is guilty.

[Nicholas]

The answer to that question is no, he would not be strongly arguing for referral of Bamber's 5 murder convictions.


CAL interviewed David James Smith for her book and as she provides a source for every quote she makes in the book, this is provided in the appendix that accompanies one particular quite attributed to David James Smith:

David James Smith, author interviews, 2013. David James Smith has
asked me to point out that he has joined the CCRC as a Commissioner
since this interview, that these observations reflect his personal views
prior to joining the Commission, and that should Jeremy Bamber ever
reapply to the CCRC, his submissions would be considered by a
Commissioner or Commissioners with no previous involvement in the
case.


The quote that the above disclaimer refers to is the following quote made  by David James Smith:

The CCRC have bent over backwards to be fair
to him. He’s had free access to all the papers, but ultimately nothing has so
far emerged that makes it likely he didn’t do it. And it’s incredibly easy to
pick away at inconsistencies – which there are bound to be in a case as
tragic, complex and far-reaching as this one. But it’s no good focusing on
little details, you have got to look at the whole picture. It’s not enough to
pull out this and that – everything has to be examined in context. That’s
been done, but it hasn’t made any difference to his incarceration


As far as I can see, David James Smith believes Jeremy Bamber to be guilty.  Maybe he hasn't always felt that way, but in 2013, when he was interviewed by CAL, he gives every indication that he thinks Bamber is guilty.

What were the seemingly mixed messages he gave during his July 2021 speech at Sussex University all about then?
⬇️
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8088.msg660802#msg660802

And how does he come across to you during the Mindhouse docuseries?

[Nicholas]

David James Smith on executioner, child killer and sexual predator Jeremy Bamber ⬇️


July 2010

“Reader, I have no idea”
(See end of last para here ➡️ http://davidjamessmith.net/pdf_articles/DJS_bamber.pdf)

2013

As far as I can see, David James Smith believes Jeremy Bamber to be guilty.  Maybe he hasn't always felt that way, but in 2013, when he was interviewed by CAL, he gives every indication that he thinks Bamber is guilty.

July 2021

I remember saying at the end of the article I wrote that I had no idea of his innocence or guilt. I had put the case for and against and now it was up to readers. “Reader you decide”, I wrote quite grandly.
http://www.sussex.ac.uk/crime/newsandevents

My communication with David James Smith stopped in/around July 2019 after he asked me to let him know how I got on with the Westminster Commission

He sent me a link on ‘how to make a submission’ and wished me luck

I’d sent him a link re Michelle Diskin Bates where she stated, “Barry is guilty and I am complicit” and I stated,  ‘A Freudian slip perhaps?’

[Nicholas]

Why did David James Smith say he was the first journalist to ‘officially’ interview Bamber?

How did he forget about Roger Wilkes who first met with Bamber ‘in the late summer of 1991’

Bamber was ‘officially’ visited by journalist Roger Wilkes several times before David James Smith ⬇️


Excerpts from Roger Wilkes book Blood Relations
‘When this book originally appeared in 1994, it was the first to examine his case in detail, and the first to feature Bamber’s own voice – the result of personal interviews conducted by me, either in written questions and answers traded by post or face-to-face in prison day-rooms and, later, through screens of toughened glass in high-security jails.

‘When Nick Robinson, the book’s original publisher, commissioned the opinion of the world’s leading authority on blood evidence, the photographs convinced the expert that Sheila, like the others, had been murdered.

What ‘photographs’ did Nick Robinson have and what photographs did he pass to the ‘worlds leading authority on blood evidence’?

‘I first wrote to Jeremy Bamber in the spring of 1991, shortly after I began to consider a book about his case. He replied briskly, pointing out that I was by no means the first journalist to approach him about his story, and asking me not to contact him again unless I was prepared to help him. He needed to commission a new and independent ballistics report from a world-class expert in the United States. Without legal aid, his fortune forfeited by dint of his conviction for murder, Bamber had no money of his own to pay for it. The American report would be his lifeline; without it there would be no prospect of a full appeal hearing, and no co-operation for me. I met him for the first time in the late summer of 1991, at Gartree Prison in Leicestershire.

‘Fresh evidence brought to light by him and others would, if substantiated, suggest a conspiracy between Essex Police and a vindictive Bamber family set on nailing Jeremy for the killings at White House Farm. In 1991, from his cell, Bamber wrote to a world authority on forensic ballistics, Dr Herbert Leon MacDonell, in New York, enclosing the details. Dr MacDonell replied saying that in his initial opinion the evidence of the Crown’s chief forensic witness at the trial was suspect. Bamber was convinced that a formal report from MacDonell would tip the scales in favour of his case being referred to the Court of Appeal. It turned out rather differently, as I explain in these pages.

‘Four days before the following Easter I drove up to Frankland. There had been a delay in processing my clearance to visit and I was told I could see Bamber only under ‘closed’ conditions. Instead of the modestly cheerful day-room in which we had talked at Gartree over diet Cokes at small Formica-topped tables, I was led through a door and along a narrow corridor to a small room with a single chair and a glass screen. Almost at once, Bamber appeared at the other side, dressed in striped prison fatigues and sporting a goatee beard and moustache at the request, he said, of a new girlfriend.

‘When the journalist David James Smith visited him there in 2010 and asked him what he missed about the outside world twenty-four years into his time, Bamber welled up and said he didn’t know because he has forgotten what outside was like.

‘The detective who took over the investigation after Taff Jones’s death said Bamber’s appeal was based on fabrication and lies.

[Nicholas]

Bamber was ‘officially’ visited by journalist Roger Wilkes several times before David James Smith

He says at the beginning of the first episode of the 4 series docu series he doesn’t know if other journalists have visited Bamber in prison

“I don’t know if other people have gone to visit him as journalists but I had an official visit in twenty ten and I was there first and then he suddenly appeared through a locked door accompanied by two prison officers’

’JEREMY Bamber is more like an "ageing accountant" than a mass murderer, according to a crime author and journalist, who interviewed the killer in prison.
https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1496769/jeremy-bamber-sky-crime-series

‘Asked if he believed what Bamber was saying, he replied:“I had no reason to disbelieve what he was saying.”

[Nicholas]

Has morally duplicitous Michelle Diskin Bates not yet seen the Mindhouse TV docuseries ?

At the bottom of this blog https://jeremybamber.blogspot.com/2016/08/justice-is-never-served-by-conviction.html

It’s says,

Article in The Justice Gap by Michelle Bates
Posted by Jeremy Bamber at Thursday, August 04, 2016

The article was published 13th Feb 2015 here https://www.thejusticegap.com/innocent-innocent-enough/

At the end of the article Michelle Diskin Bates states,

“Surely the state has a moral duty to correct its wrongs and to reinstate that which was wrongly taken away?”

Michelle Diskin Bates should consider her own ‘morals’ before making demands of others.

When does she plan to ‘correct’ her own wrong-doings??

For example,

it’s been pointed out to her numerous times nighttime TV didn’t exist in 1985 yet she chooses to continue to attempt to deceive others. Why? We know she ‘lurks’ on this forum by her own admissions.

(Her ‘Not innocent enough’ petition received a total of 354 signatures https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/not-innocent-enough-unlawful)

‘People who value morality and make it a part of their identity are less likely to be hypocritical

‘Hypocrites are likely to gain motivation from a desire to look good, more than an internal desire to satisfy personal goals.

‘Narcissists, either by nature or as the result of fame (Infamy), have a greater sense of entitlement and therefore are more likely to excuse themselves for their failings.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/fulfillment-any-age/201603/5-ways-spot-the-hypocrites-in-your-life

Why is Michelle Diskin Bates choosing to be morally duplicious?

‘The idea of doubleness is at the core of duplicity. Duplicity comes from a Latin word meaning "double" or "twofold," and its original meaning in English has to do with a kind of deception in which you intentionally hide your true feelings or intentions behind false words or actions. If you are being duplicitous there are two yous: the one you're showing and the one you're hiding. And—key to the idea of duplicity—you're hiding that you in order to make people believe something that's not true.

The word is found in many works of literature, including the Bible:

The integrity of the upright guides them, but the unfaithful are destroyed by their duplicity.
— Proverbs 11:3 (New International Version)
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/duplicity

Michelle Diskin Bates on the Bamber case,

‘No, I and the many others do NOT make things up in this case, everything is taken from documents”.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1225160056238460931

🎀 Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
Replying to
@tara_snow
@DebraClaridge
  and 3 others
No, I and the many others do NOT make things up in this case, everything is taken from documents. There are just TOO MANY discrepancies and too much non-disclosure. Much is being hidden and this is not the only wrongful conviction treated in this way.
8:51 pm · 5 Feb 2020·Twitter for iPad

Sexual predator and convicted/exonerated killer Barry George ⬇️

“If people saw me in Gowan Avenue, where she lived, before that day it was because my old doctor was there and not for any other reason. It was not because I was stalking Jill.

'At first when I was questioned I forgot the name of the road because I'd changed doctors. I didn't know that I'd been in Gowan Avenue -  but clearly I had.'
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/dando-murder-police-to-launch-cold-case-review-of-2100-original-suspects-6816041.html

[Nicholas]

https://twitter.com/CouldMurderAPod/status/1444249341355507713  🙄

These two appear to have realised they superimposed a photograph of Anji Greaves alongside executioner, child killer and sexual predator Bamber

They’ve opted for a single snapshot now https://twitter.com/CouldMurderAPod/status/1444619997792411649

[Nicholas]

Is Liberty Hyde one of Yvonne Hartley’s pseudonyms?

Liberty Hyde
It was so lovely to see you and catch up on all the news. I'm very much looking forward to seeing you again very soon, and to your interview. Thank you for your kindness, friendship, hospitality and support. Xxx

(Comment under the original Facebook post)

 

Liberty Hyde
Absolutely. Another shocking MOJ with evidence and the real perpetrator known to the police as with Jeremy Bamber, and yet they continue this disgusting charade.

Barbara Stone
Hate seeing personal stuff like this in print prefer focus to be on case still I ll live with it and watch the chatter chatter in future x

On mass murderer Michael Stone https://www.kentonline.co.uk/medway/news/my-brother-didnt-kill-mum-and-daughter-254565/

[Nicholas]

There’s a video on the UAI fb group - has anyone seen it? It’s like a cult meeting

Trudi Benjamin’s face is projected onto a screen alongside Michelle Diskin Bates

I’ve no idea what they are all singing

[Nicholas]

Where was Angela Greaves husband whilst she was seemingly being triangulated by Bamber?

Could Virginia’s wedding have been called off - if she was getting married - and she was attempting to patch things up and Anji’s story was to help her sister

Or did Bamber put Anji up to it?

The following is an excerpt from Roger Wilkes book Blood Relations and he seems to have taken Anji’s words from the Sun news story

‘I was giving him the love in bed she should have been giving him,’she told the paper. ‘She was just giving him mouth.’

Bamber went all out to smear Julie and used people to do his dirty work for him - people who had never met her