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Offline barrier

Re: The boxes ticked by prime suspect Brueckner
« Reply #180 on: March 17, 2022, 04:41:14 PM »
^^^ well that shut them all up!  @)(++(*
Not even a rallying “just because he’s a rapist/paedo/burglar doesn’t mean he dunnit” response?  I guess there’s still time….

Remind the reader how long CB is serving for the abduction and murder of Madeleine .
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The boxes ticked by prime suspect Brueckner
« Reply #181 on: March 17, 2022, 05:19:55 PM »
Remind the reader how long CB is serving for the abduction and murder of Madeleine .
remind the reader where I claimed he’d been  convicted of said crime.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: The boxes ticked by prime suspect Brueckner
« Reply #182 on: March 17, 2022, 06:08:18 PM »
Remind the reader how long CB is serving for the abduction and murder of Madeleine .

It doesn't take much to convince some people that he will be, does it?

1. He is a criminal
2. He used to live nearby
3. He may have been in the area at the time
4. Wolters says it was him
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The boxes ticked by prime suspect Brueckner
« Reply #183 on: March 17, 2022, 06:25:39 PM »
It doesn't take much to convince some people that he will be, does it?

1. He is a criminal
2. He used to live nearby
3. He may have been in the area at the time
4. Wolters says it was him

Pathetic post displaying complete denial of the true facts

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The boxes ticked by prime suspect Brueckner
« Reply #184 on: March 17, 2022, 06:39:52 PM »
It doesn't take much to convince some people that he will be, does it?

1. He is a criminal
2. He used to live nearby
3. He may have been in the area at the time
4. Wolters says it was him
Why do you think Wolters says it is him?  Just for a laugh?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Brietta

Re: The boxes ticked by prime suspect Brueckner
« Reply #185 on: March 17, 2022, 07:11:50 PM »
It doesn't take much to convince some people that he will be, does it?

1. He is a criminal
2. He used to live nearby
3. He may have been in the area at the time
4. Wolters says it was him
  • He is a criminal   
    - that ticks a box.  The proof of the pudding being that he is presently incarcerated having been found guilty of - among other things - of the completely disgusting rape of an elderly woman.
  • He used to live nearby
    That ticks another box.
    Dogs don't usually defecate in their own back gardens preferring to do their business some distance away.  It seems Brueckner placed no such restrictions on carrying out his business close to home as the rape he committed was very close to his home.
  • He may have been in the area at the time
    Yet another box ticked - if one places any reliance at all on phone pings and witnesses -
    Snip
    A Portuguese investigative source told the Sun: "It would appear Christian B's name and background were known to police all along.

    "They showed his picture to at least one witness who positively identified him near the scene yet nothing appears to have been followed up.

    "It beggars belief that the McCanns have been allowed to endure so much pain for so long."

    Goncalo Amaral, who led the initial probe, said last April that a German paedophile had been identified in 2007 as a potential suspect.
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/key-madeleine-mccann-witness-told-22147229
  • Wolters says it was him
    As official spokesperson for the BKA such a statement would carry some weight.  Any chance of recalling exactly where you saw it and telling us all where exactly.
    Good to get things in context.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2022, 07:14:56 PM by Brietta »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Ms Para glider

Re: The boxes ticked by prime suspect Brueckner
« Reply #186 on: March 17, 2022, 07:37:53 PM »

Well since the last study I quoted went down like a cup of cold sick among the sceptics.... how about another!? Huzza!

This is taken from oft-cited Hanfland et al 1997 study - "Case Management for Missing Children Homicide Investigation". It looked at over 600 cases where a child was specifically abducted and then subsequently murdered, so it's relevance is even more significant to the particular scenario we are discussing here.

The following is a summary of findings relating to characteristics of the perpetrators of said crimes. It's a bit long but the original report is over 100 pages so I'm summarising as best I can. Let's see how many boxes CB ticks here:


Killers of abducted children are somewhat unique among murderers in general, above and beyond their choice of victims. They can be characterized as social marginals: They are not active, successful participants in mainstream, conventional social life, but, rather, they occupy a position in society that is, indeed, on the "edge, brink, border, precipice, or margin." They are not integrated, personally or socially, into the kinds of relationships or activities that produce and sustain effective self or social controls. Their personal and social attributes establish and define their social marginality.

In terms of their sociodemographic attributes, these killers can be typified as white males who, on average, are about 27 years old. Only 15 percent of these killers are married at the time of the murder. This is very different than for young adult males in the general population, as well as for murderers in general, where the pattern is almost the opposite, with the great majority of them being married.

50 percent of the child abduction killers were unemployed at the time they committed the murder. This rate of unemployment is at least five times greater than the national unemployment rate for the general population. When they are working, they are primarily employed in "unskilled" and "semiskilled" labor occupations. They tend to work in what economists refer to as "secondary sector" occupations, which require little formal education, produce low wages, are characteristically unstable, indicate lower status, do not lend themselves to career commitments, and so on.

They may not truly be loners, but they are more likely to be "social isolates," particularly from their peers, both male and female. They are also quite mobile--they change their residences quite often, more than most people. Seventy-nine percent of these killers moved at least once within the past five years. This may not be that unusual, but 43 percent of them changed residences three or more times, and 21 percent moved five or more times during the five years preceding the murder. They do not seem to stay anywhere very long, where they could (or would) connect themselves to others or to a place. Or, vice versa, because they are less attached to significant others, they are more free and, therefore, more likely to move often. It is also likely that for many of them, their criminal activity makes it more necessary to move around, either seeking out more fertile grounds for victims and/or avoiding apprehension.

Their prior criminal acts, against adults and juveniles, also indicate a predisposition to violence, including murder and sexual assaults. Based on a search of their criminal records, it was discovered that the majority of child abduction killers have histories of violence. Sixty percent of them had prior arrests for violent crimes. And, alarmingly, their crimes of violence are being perpetrated at a high rate against child victims. The majority (53%) of the killers had committed prior crimes against children, and the most frequent of those crimes were assaults and/or sexual assaults. Almost two-thirds (64%) of the killers who are strangers to their victims have committed prior crimes against children, which is twice as likely as a killer who is a family member or intimate (32%).

Surprisingly, two-thirds (67%) of the prior crimes committed had an M.O. that was similar to that in the abduction murder that was committed by the same offender. They were most alike, by a large margin, in the "commission of the offense," or the way the crimes were committed. In 70 percent of the cases that had similar M.O.s, the priors were committed in similar ways. These findings regarding the similarity of M.O.s across the great majority of crimes committed by child abduction killers show that there is more consistency in the M.O.s of these types of killers than expected and as compared to other types of murderers. The data also suggest that there may be a greater predisposition to serial offending among child abduction killers.

In the case of child abduction murders, the overwhelming majority--69 percent--of the cases involve a sexual motive, compared to only 5 percent of all murders, and 14 percent of child murders.

A theoretical perspective in criminology--"lifestyle" or "routine activities" theory--proposes that there are three basic elements in a crime: a motivated offender, the opportunity to commit the crime, and ineffective guardians. In keeping with the prior observation that most of these child abduction killers seem to be predisposed or "ready" to kill, if they are given the opportunity, and the risk of identification or apprehension is minimized because the potential victim is not being monitored, the probability of an abduction and murder increases. Absent any one of the elements, the chances of murder decline. However, given this kind of group of motivated offenders, it should not be surprising that 57 percent of the murder victims are simply "victims of opportunity". They were killed because of the opportunity to act on a general predisposition to commit violence against children (only 13% had a "specific motivation" to kill a particular victim).

Offline G-Unit

Re: The boxes ticked by prime suspect Brueckner
« Reply #187 on: March 17, 2022, 09:04:30 PM »
I really don't understand why some people are so desperate for Brueckner to be guilty.
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Offline Ms Para glider

Re: The boxes ticked by prime suspect Brueckner
« Reply #188 on: March 17, 2022, 09:32:30 PM »
I really don't understand why some people are so desperate for Brueckner to be guilty.

They're not. It's just that you (among others) are so desperate for him to NOT be guilty, that you cannot accept how very credible a suspect he is. And when anyone points things out to illustrate this fact, you resort to deliberately misrepresenting what those people are saying, instead of challenging the content of their argument. Model behaviour from a Moderator I'm sure.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The boxes ticked by prime suspect Brueckner
« Reply #189 on: March 17, 2022, 09:47:30 PM »
They're not. It's just that you (among others) are so desperate for him to NOT be guilty, that you cannot accept how very credible a suspect he is. And when anyone points things out to illustrate this fact, you resort to deliberately misrepresenting what those people are saying, instead of challenging the content of their argument. Model behaviour from a Moderator I'm sure.
Abolutely bang on the nail.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The boxes ticked by prime suspect Brueckner
« Reply #190 on: March 17, 2022, 10:04:28 PM »
I really don't understand why some people are so desperate for Brueckner to be guilty.

It seems you just don't understand.. You are one who seems to be desperate.. I certainly don't want CB to be guilty..you seem not to want to believe he could be guilty

Offline Brietta

Re: The boxes ticked by prime suspect Brueckner
« Reply #191 on: March 17, 2022, 10:39:49 PM »
I really don't understand why some people are so desperate for Brueckner to be guilty.

I think that post shows a basic misunderstanding of what the Rule of Law and Order actually entails.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: The boxes ticked by prime suspect Brueckner
« Reply #192 on: March 17, 2022, 11:18:31 PM »
They're not. It's just that you (among others) are so desperate for him to NOT be guilty, that you cannot accept how very credible a suspect he is. And when anyone points things out to illustrate this fact, you resort to deliberately misrepresenting what those people are saying, instead of challenging the content of their argument. Model behaviour from a Moderator I'm sure.

I have no idea whether he's guilty or not as I think I've said a few times. I'm not interested in credibility either, I'm interested in evidence. When I see evidence that suggests he was actually rather than possibly involved I may be more interested. At the moment no such evidence has been released. It's all speculation.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The boxes ticked by prime suspect Brueckner
« Reply #193 on: March 17, 2022, 11:34:50 PM »
I have no idea whether he's guilty or not as I think I've said a few times. I'm not interested in credibility either, I'm interested in evidence. When I see evidence that suggests he was actually rather than possibly involved I may be more interested. At the moment no such evidence has been released. It's all speculation.
That evidence exists but you have summarily dismissed it.  You doubt he is guilty because you think you know better who is guilty, that’s the truth of the matter isn’t it?
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Offline Angelo222

Re: The boxes ticked by prime suspect Brueckner
« Reply #194 on: March 18, 2022, 02:02:26 AM »
I really don't understand why some people are so desperate for Brueckner to be guilty.

It's really very simple. Gets a certain couple off the hook after nearly 15 years.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

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