As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?

[sadie]

Two other interesting things in the drawing, Sadie:

OCSBR = Ocean Club Summer Beach Resort
770 4227 = contact for Mark Warner, UK

Oh, thanks Anthro.   You are a clever girl.   I spent ages with OCBRS trying to fathom it and had wondered if it had to do with Bensafrim where there seemed to be some funny goings on, but I like your interpretation as much.

And then, the Mark Warner contact number.   I wonder why?

Also  30's ? 5'10"   (Agec and height?)


I am flummoxed that the second lot of initials are so faint because I remembered them as big and bold.
There is another Brians Dream drawing that shows the two people sitting on a bench or settee with a little girl (Madeleine?) between.   Maybe it is that one where both lots of initials are bold?

You don't have that one too, do you?

[sadie]

Two other interesting things in the drawing, Sadie:

OCSBR = Ocean Club Summer Beach Resort
770 4227 = contact for Mark Warner, UK

And the best word of all:


SAFE

All the top psychics seem to be sure that Madeleine is safe

[Wonderfulspam]

And the best word of all:


SAFE

All the top psychics seem to be sure that Madeleine is safe

Yeah, she's well safe blud, innit.

[Angelo222]

Thanks Anthro.   I thought that you might have the image.   Anthropologists study psychics , witches, the supernatural, psychology etc., dont they?    You have to be open minded and VERY clever to be an Anthropologist


I see The Brian Ladds dream image has been engineered to vanish.   One cannot copy it, or at least I can't.   Designed for a one off showing?    I wonder why?   If you cant see it to refer to it, this prevents further discussion.   




So Brian Ladd saw a WS and an RS with Madeleine?    But nothing aggressive there, thank goodness.

Says:  They wanted a girl, or They wanted a cure

Any ideas who these could be anyone?


Take it into the Private Sector, if wished.

Intriguing stuff !

It's a good job he didn't see the initials CB in his dream otherwise Bruckner would be screwed.

[Myster]

The Bottom Line... "Psychic drawings 'are no help' to Madeleine family"

Philomena McCann said the rough sketches, which were drawn by a former American soldier who claims he is able to draw predictions from his dreams, had been investigated by the authorities.

"Those drawings have been checked out," she said. "It's nonsense, there's nothing in it. We must have had hundreds of things like that sent to us. We have been contacted by thousands of mediums from all over the world who claim to know something. There's nothing in it."

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/psychic-drawings-are-no-help-to-madeleine-family-28507588.html

[barrier]

@Myster, your avatar did you play the game, windows 95 if I recall it was on or  was it win 98 .

[Anthro]

Oh, thanks Anthro.   You are a clever girl.   I spent ages with OCBRS trying to fathom it and had wondered if it had to do with Bensafrim where there seemed to be some funny goings on, but I like your interpretation as much.

And then, the Mark Warner contact number.   I wonder why?

Also  30's ? 5'10"   (Agec and height?)


I am flummoxed that the second lot of initials are so faint because I remembered them as big and bold.
There is another Brians Dream drawing that shows the two people sitting on a bench or settee with a little girl (Madeleine?) between.   Maybe it is that one where both lots of initials are bold?

You don't have that one too, do you?

[Myster]

@Myster, your avatar did you play the game, windows 95 if I recall it was on or  was it win 98 .

Picked up an old copy of the original Myst (one of the first computer games on CD as opposed to floppies) at a garage sale several years ago and have been hooked on Cyan's mind-challenging games in their various iterations ever since... Riven, Myst sequels and their most recent, Obduction (for which you need a hefty graphics card)... https://cyan.com/games/

[G-Unit]

The Bottom Line... "Psychic drawings 'are no help' to Madeleine family"

Philomena McCann said the rough sketches, which were drawn by a former American soldier who claims he is able to draw predictions from his dreams, had been investigated by the authorities.

"Those drawings have been checked out," she said. "It's nonsense, there's nothing in it. We must have had hundreds of things like that sent to us. We have been contacted by thousands of mediums from all over the world who claim to know something. There's nothing in it."

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/psychic-drawings-are-no-help-to-madeleine-family-28507588.html

That's the problem with appealing to the public. Thousands of contacts, most of which are anything but helpful, paticularly psychics etc.

[Brietta]

The Bottom Line... "Psychic drawings 'are no help' to Madeleine family"

Philomena McCann said the rough sketches, which were drawn by a former American soldier who claims he is able to draw predictions from his dreams, had been investigated by the authorities.

"Those drawings have been checked out," she said. "It's nonsense, there's nothing in it. We must have had hundreds of things like that sent to us. We have been contacted by thousands of mediums from all over the world who claim to know something. There's nothing in it."

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/psychic-drawings-are-no-help-to-madeleine-family-28507588.html

When one thinks about it, the situation regarding Madeleine McCann's disappearance remained one of great mystery and there were those determined it would remain so.

Madeleine's case was closed in 2008.

In effect everyone but her parents had written her off very early after her disappearance in 2007 and there was no official ongoing investigation.  Apart from that organised and kept going by her parents and the private detectives employed by them.

2023 represents changed days since those dismal days when her parent's lobbying resulted in Madeleine's case being looked at again and the volume of un-investigated circumstances prevailing, dictated a new investigation taking place.

Even at that and in full possession of the fact that there was work to be done which never had been done at any stage of the proceedings - there remained a viciously vociferous coterie who just did not want the disappearance of this missing child who had never been properly looked for, investigated and perhaps the discovery of what her fate might have been.  Even to the possibility that she might still be alive.

Part of the evidence which was not investigated when Madeleine vanished was there all the time and always had been there.

The key to unlocking it was a name.

Quite extraordinarily the Portuguese police had been in possession of that name and that key since 2007.

So going from a "hopeless case" from the time of her disappearance until its tenth anniversary, we are at the stage when an active police investigation into Madeleine's case is fact.  No mean feat!

I definitely think we have learned a lot over the years.  And I think we will probably learn a lot more in the years to come.

[Eleanor]

Don't Appeal to The Public.  You might find out about something that you don't want to know.

Certainly nothing much has changed on this Forum with regard to the guilt of The McCanns.  Anything else is irrelevant.

[kizzy]

When one thinks about it, the situation regarding Madeleine McCann's disappearance remained one of great mystery and there were those determined it would remain so.

Madeleine's case was closed in 2008.

In effect everyone but her parents had written her off very early after her disappearance in 2007 and there was no official ongoing investigation.  Apart from that organised and kept going by her parents and the private detectives employed by them.

2023 represents changed days since those dismal days when her parent's lobbying resulted in Madeleine's case being looked at again and the volume of un-investigated circumstances prevailing, dictated a new investigation taking place.

Even at that and in full possession of the fact that there was work to be done which never had been done at any stage of the proceedings - there remained a viciously vociferous coterie who just did not want the disappearance of this missing child who had never been properly looked for, investigated and perhaps the discovery of what her fate might have been.  Even to the possibility that she might still be alive.

Part of the evidence which was not investigated when Madeleine vanished was there all the time and always had been there.

The key to unlocking it was a name.

Quite extraordinarily the Portuguese police had been in possession of that name and that key since 2007.

So going from a "hopeless case" from the time of her disappearance until its tenth anniversary, we are at the stage when an active police investigation into Madeleine's case is fact.  No mean feat!

I definitely think we have learned a lot over the years.  And I think we will probably learn a lot more in the years to come.

Well, the above isn't learning anything new is it....just the same old same old.

[Brietta]

Well, the above isn't learning anything new is it....just the same old same old.

The same old ... the same old ...

All of which was in Portuguese police files from 2007 but which only became apparent when information was supplied as the result of a public appeal by her parents in Germany on the tenth anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance.

It took till then for information which was hidden in plain sight for all those years with Portuguese knowledge, to be revealed to an investigation which would do just that - INVESTIGATE!

So "same old" Portuguese investigative techniques with neglect of evidence swapped for unprejudiced fresh eyes.

I think that ranks as NEW.  And I think it has enabled Madeleine's case to progress.  Although I do appreciate your chagrin.

[Wonderfulspam]

The same old ... the same old ...

All of which was in Portuguese police files from 2007 but which only became apparent when information was supplied as the result of a public appeal by her parents in Germany on the tenth anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance.

It took till then for information which was hidden in plain sight for all those years with Portuguese knowledge, to be revealed to an investigation which would do just that - INVESTIGATE!

So "same old" Portuguese investigative techniques with neglect of evidence swapped for unprejudiced fresh eyes.

I think that ranks as NEW. And I think it has enabled Madeleine's case to progress.  Although I do appreciate your chagrin.

Yes, Madeleine's case has progressed. It has progressed to the point where the new prime suspect is never going be charged with anything related to Madeleine's disappearance. That's how convincing the concrete evidence against him is.

[Eleanor]

Does anyone know what Concrete Evidence actually means?  Or is it a translation problem?

Whatever it means it can only be accepted by a Court.

For the time being Brueckner has been charged with similar crimes to which he has already been found guilty.  The rest of it will wait.