As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?

[Wonderfulspam]

Does anyone know what Concrete Evidence actually means?  Or is it a translation problem?

Whatever it means it can only be accepted by a Court.

For the time being Brueckner has been charged with similar crimes to which he has already been found guilty.  The rest of it will wait.

How are the rape of Behan or Brueckner masturbating in front of kids, in anyway similar to Madeleine's disappearance?

[Wonderfulspam]

"The rest of it will wait"

There's still plenty of belief, among some members here, that Brueckner really will face charges at some point.
It's quite comical to witness such unshakeable belief in Wolters & the concrete evidence. Even though he's presented nothing of substance to either the MET or Madeleine's parents.

[kizzy]

The same old ... the same old ...

All of which was in Portuguese police files from 2007 but which only became apparent when information was supplied as the result of a public appeal by her parents in Germany on the tenth anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance.

It took till then for information which was hidden in plain sight for all those years with Portuguese knowledge, to be revealed to an investigation which would do just that - INVESTIGATE!

So "same old" Portuguese investigative techniques with neglect of evidence swapped for unprejudiced fresh eyes.

I think that ranks as NEW.  And I think it has enabled Madeleine's case to progress.  Although I do appreciate your chagrin.

There was a lot in PJ files in 2007 ......a book was wrote about it

[Brietta]

Yes, Madeleine's case has progressed. It has progressed to the point where the new prime suspect is never going be charged with anything related to Madeleine's disappearance. That's how convincing the concrete evidence against him is.

Sceptics boasted that their new pin up boy (AKA Patsy) would not face charges for other crimes against women and children.

He has been charged with two counts of child abuse and three charges of aggravated rape.

So I would not bank on relying on sceptic logic particularly as promoted by the self confessed Wind Up Merchant.

[Brietta]

There was a lot in PJ files in 2007 ......a book was wrote about it

Actually there were many books written about Madeleine's case and no doubt there will be many more in the pipeline.

[Wonderfulspam]

Sceptics boasted that their new pin up boy (AKA Patsy) would not face charges for other crimes against women and children.

He has been charged with two counts of child abuse and three charges of aggravated rape.

So I would not bank on relying on sceptic logic particularly as promoted by the self confessed Wind Up Merchant.

Did you ever see me state that Brueckner wouldn't be charged with unrelated offences?

No, you didn't, because I've never said anything of the sort.

In fact, I stated months ago that he he might be charged with other offences, but never with anything related to Madeleine. And here we are, still no murder charge for Brueckner, funnily enough & as much as you want to imagine Brueckner will be facing trial for Madeleine's 'abduction' one day, it simply isn't going to happen.

[kizzy]

Actually there were many books written about Madeleine's case and no doubt there will be many more in the pipeline.

Yes, I know.

Not may it seems to back up the abduction though.

[kizzy]

Sceptics boasted that their new pin up boy (AKA Patsy) would not face charges for other crimes against women and children.

He has been charged with two counts of child abuse and three charges of aggravated rape.

So I would not bank on relying on sceptic logic particularly as promoted by the self confessed Wind Up Merchant.

How childish ...... pin-up.

I don't know who you're referring to in your post, but it was obvious he needed information for other crimes.

This is why it seems imo ....the only reason maddie was included for maximum publicity

[Wonderfulspam]

How childish ...... pin-up.

I don't know who you're referring to in your post, but it was obvious he needed information for other crimes.

This is why it seems imo ....the only reason maddie was included for maximum publicity

It's only obvious to some of us I'm afraid. Others will continue to believe Wolters really has a case against CB, because without that, they might have to admit that there's no real evidence Madeleine was abducted.

[Brietta]

Yes, I know.

Not may it seems to back up the abduction though.

If you wish to continue propagating nonsense, don't let me stand in your way.  I doubt there is any cure for true believers in conspiracy theories.

[Angelo222]

That's the problem with appealing to the public. Thousands of contacts, most of which are anything but helpful, paticularly psychics etc.

Wolters appealing to the public after fifteen years merely reveals he has absolutely nothing. 

[G-Unit]

Wolters appealing to the public after fifteen years merely reveals he has absolutely nothing. 

Fishing.

[Angelo222]

When one thinks about it, the situation regarding Madeleine McCann's disappearance remained one of great mystery and there were those determined it would remain so.

Madeleine's case was closed in 2008.

In effect everyone but her parents had written her off very early after her disappearance in 2007 and there was no official ongoing investigation.  Apart from that organised and kept going by her parents and the private detectives employed by them.

2023 represents changed days since those dismal days when her parent's lobbying resulted in Madeleine's case being looked at again and the volume of un-investigated circumstances prevailing, dictated a new investigation taking place.

Even at that and in full possession of the fact that there was work to be done which never had been done at any stage of the proceedings - there remained a viciously vociferous coterie who just did not want the disappearance of this missing child who had never been properly looked for, investigated and perhaps the discovery of what her fate might have been.  Even to the possibility that she might still be alive.

Part of the evidence which was not investigated when Madeleine vanished was there all the time and always had been there.

The key to unlocking it was a name.

Quite extraordinarily the Portuguese police had been in possession of that name and that key since 2007.

So going from a "hopeless case" from the time of her disappearance until its tenth anniversary, we are at the stage when an active police investigation into Madeleine's case is fact.  No mean feat!

I definitely think we have learned a lot over the years.  And I think we will probably learn a lot more in the years to come.

Anyone who has looked at this case from the beginning must surely be asking themself why Madeleine's parents behaved in the manor they did almost from the outset.

Instead of encompassing and working with the police they went against them, even refusing to answer the most basic questions in Kate McCann's case.

IMO nobody who had lost a child acts in such a manner.

[Wonderfulspam]

Wolters appealing to the public after fifteen years merely reveals he has absolutely nothing. 

No, he really is going to bring Brueckner to justice. Wait & see. Wolters already has enough to charge, just got to get those pesky rape & molestation cases over & done with first. It's too difficult to try 6 crimes concurrently, 5 is the maximum apparently.

[Wonderfulspam]

Fishing.

He caught a massive Red Herring.