The Evidence Against Christian Brueckner

[faithlilly]

The evidence was a perfect match for Diane's rape and torture statement in police files since the crime was reported in 2005.
All the police needed was a name for the perpetrator and this was given to them as part of the Madeleine investigation.

It is idiocy in the extreme to suggest that DNA cannot be found in one pubic hair. But here we are given that some idiots don't mind sharing the information.

I think you’re incorrect. The old lady on the alleged video was one of the two unidentified women Brueckner was tried for raping at the most recent trial.

‘Brückner is also charged with the alleged rape of a teenage girl in his home in the same city and raping an elderly woman in her holiday apartment.’

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/08/trial-verdict-of-main-suspect-in-mccann-disappearance-germany-christian-brueckner

How could the old woman on the video be Diane if Brueckner was on trial for her rape and he had already been convicted of Diane’s rape?

[The General]

Please do not affect to know it all when your questions reveal the depth of your ignorance re the subject.

You can't delete my response and not the original provocative post to make yourself look like you've won some notional internet battle. There's only 5 of us here to try to impress.

[Lace]

I think you’re incorrect. The old lady on the alleged video was one of the two unidentified women Brueckner was tried for raping at the most recent trial.

‘Brückner is also charged with the alleged rape of a teenage girl in his home in the same city and raping an elderly woman in her holiday apartment.’

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/08/trial-verdict-of-main-suspect-in-mccann-disappearance-germany-christian-brueckner

How could the old woman on the video be Diane if Brueckner was on trial for her rape and he had already been convicted of Diane’s rape?

They give evidence in court and with the hair Brueckner was convict4d of the rape of Dianne.  How could they have known such details of the rape if they hadn't seen the video?

[jassi]

They give evidence in court and with the hair Brueckner was convict4d of the rape of Dianne.  How could they have known such details of the rape if they hadn't seen the video?
[/quotPerhaps someone told them,

[Vertigo Swirl]

Perhaps someone told them,

Let’s think that one through shall we?

[The General]

Let’s think that one through shall we?

OK. As the erstwhile moderator / contributor Brietta bruskly and correctly alluded to, my knowledge on the subject of historical rapes perpetrated by German nationals living in Portugal circa 2005 is scant and certainly wouldn't be high on my list of chosen subjects in Mastermind (I'd probably opt for 'The Life and Works of Louis Althusser if pushed). Bearing this in mind, did they show the video at the trial?

[Vertigo Swirl]

OK. As the erstwhile moderator / contributor Brietta bruskly and correctly alluded to, my knowledge on the subject of historical rapes perpetrated by German nationals living in Portugal circa 2005 is scant and certainly wouldn't be high on my list of chosen subjects in Mastermind (I'd probably opt for 'The Life and Works of Louis Althusser if pushed). Bearing this in mind, did they show the video at the trial?

I don’t think so.  So we have the testimony of two “hobos” who relayed details of what they said they had seen to police, who subsequently matched the details of what they said they had seen to an actual rape (or completely made up scenario by a duplicitous old woman, take your pick) and whose bed contained a hair left by the man the “hobos” said they had seen in the video prior to them having any knowledge of the so-called victim (who actually was a victim because the court said so, and we know that when a court says something- eg CB not being guilty of raping HB that makes it an actual fact). 

[The General]

I don’t think so.  So we have the testimony of two “hobos” who relayed details of what they said they had seen to police, who subsequently matched the details of what they said they had seen to an actual rape (or completely made up scenario by a duplicitous old woman, take your pick) and whose bed contained a hair left by the man the “hobos” said they had seen in the video prior to them having any knowledge of the so-called victim (who actually was a victim because the court said so, and we know that when a court says something- eg CB not being guilty of raping HB that makes it an actual fact).

Hobo Hearsay (Band: Kansas 1977, Album: Point of No Return, Track 3) - doesn't hold much sway in German courts so it would seem.

[Brietta]

They give evidence in court and with the hair Brueckner was convict4d of the rape of Dianne.  How could they have known such details of the rape if they hadn't seen the video?

Precisely.

• in 2005 a bestial rape was perpetrated on the resident of a seaside villa in Praia da Luz in close proximity to the apartment from which Madeleine McCann vanished
• the Portuguese police dropped the case without apparently carrying out any sort of investigation into the chance that the MO had been replicated elsewhere.
  If they had they would likely have found in police files that the MO had been used in 2004 and dropped by the police
• As a result the opportunity was lost to make comparison of trace evidence from both cases in the hope of building a case against the anonymous pervert and intruder.
  The evidence from the 2004 assault was destroyed and the evidence from from the 2005 rape only preserved because it seems to have been forgotten
• Sometime many years down the line, criminal friends of Brueckner assisted his then girlfriend among others to clear the proceeds of his criminal past from his lair in Luz while he was in prison.
• Among the evidence removed were video tapes of all sorts of depraved pornographic memorabilia
• Eventually these were disposed of but not before the content of one was noted which showed the beating and rape of an older woman.
  This was noted possibly because the perpetrator was recognised as being Christian Brueckner.
• But there was nothing to indicate who the aggravated rape survivor was.
  Or if such an event had even occurred as described. The BKA had only the word of two criminal accomplices of Brueckner to go on.
  So the first issue was to check the information
• With the co-operation of the PJ the BKA were able to access police files; wherein they found reports of the torture and rape as described by the two witnesses.
• The survivor was able to testify to the terrible events she had suffered.
• Brueckner's DNA was recovered from the bedclothes of the scene of the rape as described by the survivor both at the time of the outrage, in her testimony to the BKA and through them to the German court.
• So in effect the witness statements from both criminal friends of Brueckner were totally proved as they had described.
  the event had happened
  it was corroborated in police files
  it was corroborated by the survivor
  it was proven in court
  DNA identified Brueckner as the perpetrator

The catalyst for it all was the naming of Brueckner as the erstwhile anonymous pervert with a penchat for degrading women and children for his gratification.
So despite repeated appeals the German and the European courts have left him exactly where he should be behind bars.
It is extraordinary that such a creature is the darling of the internet for some.

[Lace]

They give evidence in court and with the hair Brueckner was convict4d of the rape of Dianne.  How could they have known such details of the rape if they hadn't seen the video?
[/quotPerhaps someone told them,

it was them who introduced the police to CB.  The Police would have their first interview. Without them the Police wouldn't have arrested CB.

[Lace]

OK. As the erstwhile moderator / contributor Brietta bruskly and correctly alluded to, my knowledge on the subject of historical rapes perpetrated by German nationals living in Portugal circa 2005 is scant and certainly wouldn't be high on my list of chosen subjects in Mastermind (I'd probably opt for 'The Life and Works of Louis Althusser if pushed). Bearing this in mind, did they show the video at the trial?

They described what they saw in the video in court.  How would they know the details?  Without them putting CB's name forward they wouldn't have arrested him for the rape in the first place.

[Brietta]

it was them who introduced the police to CB.  The Police would have their first interview. Without them the Police wouldn't have arrested CB.

None so blind as those who WILL NOT see.

Without the 'inside' information given to the police by Brueckner's pals who I think were disturbed by their discovery of hard core pornography, there would have been nothing to connect him to the rape which thus would never have been investigated.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Hobo Hearsay (Band: Kansas 1977, Album: Point of No Return, Track 3) - doesn't hold much sway in German courts so it would seem.

No, in Germany it’s also apparently ok for a paedo hobo to shake his penis at a child whilst calling out to them, just so long as it’s only piss that’s coming out the end of it.  Strange country. 

[faithlilly]

They give evidence in court and with the hair Brueckner was convict4d of the rape of Dianne.  How could they have known such details of the rape if they hadn't seen the video?

The old lady on the tape remains unidentified. Brueckner was on trial for the rape of both her and the other woman on the alleged tape. How could he possibly be tried again for a rape he was already convicted of?

[faithlilly]

None so blind as those who WILL NOT see.

Without the 'inside' information given to the police by Brueckner's pals who I think were disturbed by their discovery of hard core pornography, there would have been nothing to connect him to the rape which thus would never have been investigated.

It’s you I’m afraid who will not see so eager are you to tie the alleged video to Brueckner.

Even the police aren’t connecting the alleged rape of the old woman on the tape and the 2005 rape of Diane or why try Brueckner again for a crime he had already been convicted of? Obviously having heard what Busching and co saw on the tape the police must have compared it to the testimony of Diane and found it to be different. Why else would the have charged Brueckner again?

Brueckner’s conviction for the 2005 rape had nothing to do with any tape. Further Busching alleged that the tape was left in his camper van which he sold. Odd then that no one found it in the camper and handed it to the police.