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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Gerry and Jez chat while Jane walks by. Seconds later she spots Tannerman!
« Reply #1560 on: April 15, 2016, 09:34:27 PM »
But haven't we been told that he is a giant of a man - well over 6 foot   @)(++(*

It's all a game isn't it Jassi. He remembered clearly looking up at Jes. If he was up on the pavement and Jes on the road lower down then he would be a right short ass so of course Gerry must be right and the other two wrong  @)(++(*
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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Brietta

Re: Gerry and Jez chat while Jane walks by. Seconds later she spots Tannerman!
« Reply #1561 on: April 15, 2016, 09:42:42 PM »
Sorry but there is no place in investigation for "humouring" a witness.
JT remembered the carrier's location correctly, therefore she remembered the chat location correctly.
The two events are only seconds apart, so it's impossible she would remember one correctly and the other completely incorrectly.
Fact is she remembered both the chat location and the carrier location correctly.
You can't have one without the other.

It wasn't an investigation, Pegasus, it was a television programme.  All that was of interest to the film-makers was demonstrating Jane's near encounter with the man she at that time still believed was likely to be the man  who had abducted Madeleine.
Re-enacting that life changing event must have been very painful for all concerned.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Re: Gerry and Jez chat while Jane walks by. Seconds later she spots Tannerman!
« Reply #1562 on: April 15, 2016, 09:53:24 PM »

Surely they would hardly have disagreed about this on camera if they were trying to cover up something dastardly?

Offline Brietta

Re: Gerry and Jez chat while Jane walks by. Seconds later she spots Tannerman!
« Reply #1563 on: April 15, 2016, 10:08:19 PM »
It's all a game isn't it Jassi. He remembered clearly looking up at Jes. If he was up on the pavement and Jes on the road lower down then he would be a right short ass so of course Gerry must be right and the other two wrong  @)(++(*

It may be a game to some but certainly not to the parent of a missing child or the person who believed she had seen her being carried away on the night of her disappearance.  I think the object of the exercise was to keep Madeleine's case in the public eye. 
Where the two men were standing is completely irrelevant to that.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline pegasus

Re: Gerry and Jez chat while Jane walks by. Seconds later she spots Tannerman!
« Reply #1564 on: April 15, 2016, 10:28:07 PM »
It wasn't an investigation, Pegasus, it was a television programme ...(snip)
Are you suggesting that the investigator working for the Mccanns took time off from the investigation to be in a movie that had nothing to do with investigation?

Offline G-Unit

Re: Gerry and Jez chat while Jane walks by. Seconds later she spots Tannerman!
« Reply #1565 on: April 15, 2016, 10:30:18 PM »
It may be a game to some but certainly not to the parent of a missing child or the person who believed she had seen her being carried away on the night of her disappearance.  I think the object of the exercise was to keep Madeleine's case in the public eye. 
Where the two men were standing is completely irrelevant to that.

Which makes one wonder why Gerry was so adamant that his version was used. It may not have mattered but he was the one who made it a matter of interest.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

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« Reply #1566 on: April 15, 2016, 11:00:54 PM »
And presumably neither Matt, Jane or Russel were observed by anyone  when they made their trips a little later

It's no wonder the cops wanted to interview all those "shadies" hanging about. At least they might have seen who was where and when.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Gerry and Jez chat while Jane walks by. Seconds later she spots Tannerman!
« Reply #1567 on: April 15, 2016, 11:10:14 PM »
Are you suggesting that the investigator working for the Mccanns took time off from the investigation to be in a movie that had nothing to do with investigation?

The police deal with witnesses film makers tell a story.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Gerry and Jez chat while Jane walks by. Seconds later she spots Tannerman!
« Reply #1568 on: April 15, 2016, 11:16:12 PM »
It's no wonder the cops wanted to interview all those "shadies" hanging about. At least they might have seen who was where and when.

You could very well have hit the nail on the head with that thought Alice.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline pegasus

Re: Gerry and Jez chat while Jane walks by. Seconds later she spots Tannerman!
« Reply #1569 on: April 15, 2016, 11:17:40 PM »
The fact that Edgar was there actively involved in the filming proves that the reconstruction in the cutting edge film was regarded as an important part of the private investigation. He wouldn't have been there otherwise.

Also the fact that Mitchell was right there on the reconstruction film set proves that he also regarded the filming as an important part of the investigation, otherwise why on earth would he have been there helping?

Offline pegasus

Re: Gerry and Jez chat while Jane walks by. Seconds later she spots Tannerman!
« Reply #1570 on: April 15, 2016, 11:24:55 PM »
The presence of Edgar and Mitchell on the film set proves that they both regarded the filming as a very important and serious part of the private investigation.

Offline sadie

Re: Gerry and Jez chat while Jane walks by. Seconds later she spots Tannerman!
« Reply #1571 on: April 16, 2016, 02:09:17 AM »
Which makes one wonder why Gerry was so adamant that his version was used. It may not have mattered but he was the one who made it a matter of interest.

it is quite possible G-Unit, that Gerry did go part/ most the way across the road and met Jez there, but because of the dangers of chatting in the road they returned to the west side of the street.  Gerry remembers having one foot on the kerb, even tho it was the wrong kerb he remembered.   On the west side of the street, on the kerb, is where Jane and Jez remembered Gerry standing chatting with Jez.  This was where Jane saw them,

Just because she didn't see them in the middle of the road, doesn't mean that before she came past, they weren't there temporarily

Also just because of its brevity, and Jez doesn't mention it, doesn't mean that it didn't happen.


We just don't know.

Offline pegasus

Re: Gerry and Jez chat while Jane walks by. Seconds later she spots Tannerman!
« Reply #1572 on: April 16, 2016, 03:32:05 AM »
it is quite possible Gun-it, that Gerry did go part/ most the way across the road and met Jez there, but because of the dangers of chatting in the road they returned to the west side of the street.  Gerry remembers having one foot on the kerb, even tho it was the wrong kerb he remembered.   On the west side of the street, on the kerb, is where Jane and Jez remembered Gerry standing chatting with Jez.  This was where Jane saw them,

Just because she didn't see them in the middle of the road, doesn't mean that before she came past, they weren't there temporarily

Also just because of its brevity, and Jez doesn't mention it, doesn't mean that it didn't happen.

We just don't know.
But after the chat finished he specifically describes crossing the road to get back to the restaurant Sadie.


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Offline G-Unit

Re: Gerry and Jez chat while Jane walks by. Seconds later she spots Tannerman!
« Reply #1573 on: April 16, 2016, 07:23:26 AM »
it is quite possible G-Unit, that Gerry did go part/ most the way across the road and met Jez there, but because of the dangers of chatting in the road they returned to the west side of the street.  Gerry remembers having one foot on the kerb, even tho it was the wrong kerb he remembered.   On the west side of the street, on the kerb, is where Jane and Jez remembered Gerry standing chatting with Jez.  This was where Jane saw them,

Just because she didn't see them in the middle of the road, doesn't mean that before she came past, they weren't there temporarily

Also just because of its brevity, and Jez doesn't mention it, doesn't mean that it didn't happen.


We just don't know.

They may have indulged in a bit of morris dancing up and down the road. Just because they didn't mention it and no-one saw them doesn't mean it didn't happen. We just don't know......(but most of us are pretty sure)
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Offline pegasus

Re: Gerry and Jez chat while Jane walks by. Seconds later she spots Tannerman!
« Reply #1574 on: April 16, 2016, 02:55:29 PM »
"I can affirm without any reservation that Gerry's behaviour was absolutely normal. He was not preoccupied and conversed and appeared relaxed." (JW rog)

This IMO absolutely rules out all those hypotheses of a discovery in the apartment or garden, a few minutes before the chat, of an accident. The completely normal behaviour makes that impossible. The discrepancy about one claimed position of a chat remains, but must have a different explanation.