Author Topic: Gerry and Jez chat while Jane walks by. Seconds later she spots Tannerman!  (Read 461904 times)

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Offline faithlilly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na4aBr5PTYY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Video showing Jane Tanner being bullied about what she saw or from where. Take note from 5.30 minutes onwards the narrator says Jane Tanner may not have been the only one to see Madeleine being abducted. (As if this was an established fact that she did)
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I wonder what were JW's thoughts when watching this part of the so-called reconstruction.
I bet he avoided carefully to meditate.

Wilkins also refused to take part in the official reconstruction so he only has himself to blame.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline John

Thank you for posting that video Madeleine was here part 4/5 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na4aBr5PTYY&feature=youtube_gdata_player


According to Jane this is what the scene was like...

I should point out that Jez Wilkins corroborates this version too.

« Last Edit: April 21, 2014, 06:33:40 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Redblossom

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Anne that documentary tried to make out the man the Smiths saw was the same man Jane Tanner saw, for obvious reasons. But their descriptions of him were different in important respects, not forgetting the fact that an abductor would be carrying a child around the resort for three quarters of an hour plainly ludicrous.

Offline John

But according to Gerry this is what occurred...



« Last Edit: April 21, 2014, 06:46:23 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

icabodcrane

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From Wilkins rogatory statement :

'I do not remember having seen anyone else at this time besides Gerry. After leaving each other, Gerry walked downward in the direction of the Tapas Bar and I began to walk in the other direction, up the pathway. I turned left at the crossing and passed the apartment. I did not meet anyone else during my walk and once in my apartment, I did not venture out again. '

This seems to give  further verification that  Wilkins was on the pathway while speaking to Gerry.

It also suggests that  whilst speaking with Gerry,  Wilkins had the pushchair faced in the direction in  which he was going   (  up the street,  and away from the reception area )   

Yet Jane Tanner says  (  in the link Redblossom brought us above )  that Wilkins had the pushchair facing  down the street,  towards  the reception area that he had just come from   

Her statement doesn't come across as being very reliable at all,  does it  ? 

Offline faithlilly

From Wilkins rogatory statement :

'I do not remember having seen anyone else at this time besides Gerry. After leaving each other, Gerry walked downward in the direction of the Tapas Bar and I began to walk in the other direction, up the pathway. I turned left at the crossing and passed the apartment. I did not meet anyone else during my walk and once in my apartment, I did not venture out again. '

This seems to give  further verification that  Wilkins was on the pathway while speaking to Gerry.

It also suggests that  whilst speaking with Gerry,  Wilkins had the pushchair faced in the direction in  which he was going   (  up the street,  and away from the reception area )   

Yet Jane Tanner says  (  in the link Redblossom brought us above )  that Wilkins had the pushchair facing  down the street,  towards  the reception area that he had just come from   

Her statement doesn't come across as being very reliable at all,  does it  ?

It certainly doesn't. Of course all these inconsistencies may have been ironed out if the group had chosen to do the official reconstruction although I can't see Gerry getting away with bullying Tanner in the way he did in the  documentary if it had.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Redblossom

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Faithlilly, hello, one of the most shocking elements of this case was that all of the tapas nine did not want to go back for a reconstruction. When everyone said they would do anything. It is unprecedented.

Offline John

Why such a difference though...that is the question?  Too much vino?

I agree about them refusing to go back or at least being awkward about it...WTF was that all about??

Have they fallen out or something?
« Last Edit: April 14, 2013, 07:40:19 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Meadow

Bridget O'Donnell, the partner of JW wrote this, proceeds of her article (she's a journalist) donated to the Find Madeleine Fund,  worthy to read the whole article

''Our baby would not sleep and at about 8.30pm, Jes took him out for a walk in the buggy to settle him. Gerry was on his way back from checking on his children and the two men stopped to have a chat. They talked about daughters, fathers, families. Gerry was relaxed and friendly. They discussed the babysitting dilemmas at the resort and Gerry said that he and Kate would have stayed in too, if they had not been on holiday in a group. Jes returned to our apartment just before 9.30pm. We ate, drank wine, watched a DVD and then went to bed. On the ground floor, a completely catastrophic event was taking place. On the fourth floor of the next block, we were completely oblivious.''

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/dec/14/ukcrime.madeleinemccann

It would seem reading this article  and statements, he had walked around basically in circles for approximately an hour, probably why he actually lost track of time.  However, pushing a baby around for an hour or so, is a rather long time.  But he was the eyes and ears of what was going on in the area.

Redblossom

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Why such a difference though...that is the question?  Too much vino?

I agree about them refusing to go back or at least being awkward about it...WTF was that all about??

Have they fallen out or something?

No person  would refuse to go back for a reconstruction to help find a missing child, even if they fell out, JMO

The Mccanns were never keen on it, they went on tv and said as much, their friends said they would, but when it came to the crunch they all refused. John, that is hardly no stone unturned is it?

Offline John

Jez Wilkins statements most definitely back up what Jane Tanners recollections are so can anyone see any reason why Gerry got this so wrong?
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

C.Edwards

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@john

Nice work on the images, but you're turning the participants into midgets! The top of the gate comes to Gerry's waist. I think you've made your shadow figures a bit small.

See here for pic: http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/25MAY9/14.jpg

icabodcrane

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Why such a difference though...that is the question?  Too much vino?

I agree about them refusing to go back or at least being awkward about it...WTF was that all about??

Have they fallen out or something?

Well,  the only one who hadn't been drinking at that point was the independent witness,  Jez Wilkins

Can we have the picture based on his statement  (  both he and Gerry on the path  )  but with Jane added  ? 

icabodcrane

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Thank you for posting that video Madeleine was here part 4/5 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na4aBr5PTYY&feature=youtube_gdata_player


According to Jane this is what the scene was like...

I should point out that Jez Wilkins corroborates this version too.



Jez Wilkins  does not  corroborate it  John

We have already established that he says the conversation took place on the path

This image has  him standing on the road  (  that is not what he said  )
« Last Edit: April 14, 2013, 08:49:54 PM by John »

AnneGuedes

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na4aBr5PTYY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Video showing Jane Tanner being bullied about what she saw or from where. Take note from 5.30 minutes onwards the narrator says Jane Tanner may not have been the only one to see Madeleine being abducted. (As if this was an established fact that she did)
 >@@(*&)
I wonder what were JW's thoughts when watching this part of the so-called reconstruction.
I bet he avoided carefully to meditate.

Wilkins also refused to take part in the official reconstruction so he only has himself to blame.
He didn't actually refuse, he wasn't enthusiastic but would do as the others. He wasn't the only one saying so.