Author Topic: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?  (Read 265076 times)

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Offline Eleanor

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #360 on: May 16, 2023, 09:47:37 AM »
Insufficient (not 'no') evidence.

The very same thing.  If it isn't admissable In Court then it isn't Evidence.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #361 on: May 16, 2023, 10:06:15 AM »
Insufficient (not 'no') evidence.
So the open window is evidence of abduction.

And lots of evidence against CB

Offline Eleanor

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #362 on: May 16, 2023, 10:39:33 AM »
So the open window is evidence of abduction.

And lots of evidence against CB

Don't be silly.  They don't want to know about all of that mountainous pile of old rubbish.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #363 on: May 16, 2023, 10:41:09 AM »
So the open window is evidence of abduction.

And lots of evidence against CB

Yes, the open window was described by Kate. That's her evidence of abduction. CB confessed to Busching, that's the evidence against him, and Martin Smith believed he saw Gerry. That's his evidence against Gerry.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #364 on: May 16, 2023, 11:00:41 AM »
There's evidence that Madeleine travelled the world after her disappearance as hundreds if not thousands of people claim (some with 100% certainty) to have seen her.  Are these eye witness statements not at least as important as Martin Smith's? 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Eleanor

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #365 on: May 16, 2023, 11:04:27 AM »
There's evidence that Madeleine travelled the world after her disappearance as hundreds if not thousands of people claim (some with 100% certainty) to have seen her.  Are these eye witness statements not at least as important as Martin Smith's?

Absolutely.  And probably more so.  They actually know that they saw Madeleine.  So wheel that lot into Court.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #366 on: May 16, 2023, 11:09:11 AM »
Absolutely.  And probably more so.  They actually know that they saw Madeleine.  So wheel that lot into Court.

Yes, if I was Brueckner's lawyer I'd be introducing into evidence some 8000 sightings of a living Maddie. Plenty for Wolters to get through.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #367 on: May 16, 2023, 11:14:17 AM »
Yes, if I was Brueckner's lawyer I'd be introducing into evidence some 8000 sightings of a living Maddie. Plenty for Wolters to get through.

All Wolters has to do is to produce Evidence that Brueckner Abducted Madeleine.

Offline John

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #368 on: May 16, 2023, 11:17:25 AM »
All Wolters has to do is to produce Evidence that Brueckner Abducted Madeleine.

His failure to provide such evidence to the child's parents says it all imo.

Put yourself in the McCann's shoes for a moment. If this was your child wouldn't you want to know if she is dead or alive?

Wolters refusal to provide such information to Kate and Gerry is indicative that he is has no credibility whatsoever in this case. I would go further and say that his actions are cruel and wholly unprofessional towards the parents of a long-term missing child.

His obvious attempts to procure a witness by underhand means has backfired on him imo.
« Last Edit: May 16, 2023, 11:23:35 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #369 on: May 16, 2023, 11:23:55 AM »
His failure to provide such evidence to the child's parents says it all imo.

Put yourself in the McCann's shoes for a moment. If this was your child wouldn't you want to know if she is dead or alive?

Wolters refusal to provide such information to Kate and Gerry is indicative that he is unreliable.

No John. Wolters has made it absoloutely clear that Madeleine is dead, that there is no hope she is alive. The McCanns just have to trust the word of the official spokesman for the BKA, but it appears they just don't.
Some members here are quite convinced by him though.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #370 on: May 16, 2023, 11:27:32 AM »
All Wolters has to do is to produce Evidence that Brueckner Abducted Madeleine.

Should be easy enough, considering the amount of abduction evidence the three investigative forces have at their disposal. That & the murder evidence. There's no shortage of evidence against Brueckner. One could begin to wonder why he still hasn't been charged.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #371 on: May 16, 2023, 12:41:30 PM »
His failure to provide such evidence to the child's parents says it all imo.

Put yourself in the McCann's shoes for a moment. If this was your child wouldn't you want to know if she is dead or alive?

Wolters refusal to provide such information to Kate and Gerry is indicative that he is has no credibility whatsoever in this case. I would go further and say that his actions are cruel and wholly unprofessional towards the parents of a long-term missing child.

His obvious attempts to procure a witness by underhand means has backfired on him imo.
If this is still true to this day then I agree, it is cruel.  But perhaps it is done with the best intentions and not deliberately to be cruel?  And perhaps he HAS now divulged what information he has to the parents.  We simply don't know.  I mean if I WERE in the McCanns' shoes and such definitive information had been withheld from me I would be using the media to complain loudly about such a situation.  There must be a reason why they have remained reasonably silent on the matter for the last year or so. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #372 on: May 16, 2023, 01:02:52 PM »
The very same thing.  If it isn't admissable In Court then it isn't Evidence.

Some evidence awakens suspicion; like a phone call made to a phone which may have belonged to your suspect for example. That wasn't evidence then.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #373 on: May 16, 2023, 01:19:04 PM »
Some evidence awakens suspicion; like a phone call made to a phone which may have belonged to your suspect for example. That wasn't evidence then.

I don't know if it was evidence.  It isn't for me to decide.  And I don't know if it will be used in Court.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #374 on: May 16, 2023, 05:51:57 PM »
I sometimes wonder if some of you know what  "Beyond Reasonable Doubt". means.