Author Topic: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?  (Read 264199 times)

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #465 on: May 20, 2023, 11:29:44 AM »
So forget the past and you can happily wait for the Germans to deliver justice for MM at last!
Not sure what you are trying to say.
I see several professionals who clearly don't understand ....and then the  gullible following them.
Perlins offer re the DNA is one. His analysis wouldn't help in the slightest. He's actually has a case on his website supporting his work that was thrown out on appeal...re touch DNA. But according to so called anti experts he could help solve the case..he couldn't..it's laughable
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #466 on: May 20, 2023, 11:40:00 AM »
You're wrong if you think I care so much...but I do care about justice...I think Maddies best chance of justice is with the germans

The McCanns clearly don't. In their recent message they said they are still waiting for Madeleine & are never giving up. Entirely at odds with Wolters, who has the full backing of the BKA & the concrete murder evidence. You must think they are barking mad.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #467 on: May 20, 2023, 11:42:58 AM »
So forget the past and you can happily wait for the Germans to deliver justice for MM at last!

Yes, & it shouldn't be much longer now! But no update this year on the 3rd anniversary of the coming of the concrete evidence. Where is Wolters? Maybe he's been abducted.
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Offline kizzy

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #468 on: May 20, 2023, 12:23:51 PM »
Your post doesn't make much sense..amaral claims DM wasn't raped...many sceptics agree with him.. they are wrong

No, it wouldn't make much sense to you....your posts are tunnel vision.

Your posts have an obsession with trying to make posters feel less important than yourself.

What have we learned in 16 years nothing [apart from the prime suspects for abduction].. results in zero.

Maddie disappeared 16 years a go...no one can prove what happened or who was responsible it seems.

IMO the only way of solving this is for fresh eyes to look at it from the begining....not half way through.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #469 on: May 20, 2023, 01:59:31 PM »
No, it wouldn't make much sense to you....your posts are tunnel vision.

Your posts have an obsession with trying to make posters feel less important than yourself.

What have we learned in 16 years nothing [apart from the prime suspects for abduction].. results in zero.

Maddie disappeared 16 years a go...no one can prove what happened or who was responsible it seems.

IMO the only way of solving this is for fresh eyes to look at it from the begining....not half way through.
The Met offered fresh eyes, so did the Germans, then we've had various other pairs of fresh eyes - MWT, Summers and Swann, Panorama etc etc etc and they all seem to have come to a conclusion which you don't like or agree with, this must be frighfully galling for you and your compatriots but one day you will have to come to accept it.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #470 on: May 20, 2023, 02:28:28 PM »
The Met offered fresh eyes, so did the Germans, then we've had various other pairs of fresh eyes - MWT, Summers and Swann, Panorama etc etc etc and they all seem to have come to a conclusion which you don't like or agree with, this must be frighfully galling for you and your compatriots but one day you will have to come to accept it.

You included MWT. But he believes Maddie woke & wandered. Meaning Kate must have lied about the open window.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #471 on: May 20, 2023, 02:48:57 PM »
No, it wouldn't make much sense to you....your posts are tunnel vision.

Your posts have an obsession with trying to make posters feel less important than yourself.

What have we learned in 16 years nothing [apart from the prime suspects for abduction].. results in zero.

Maddie disappeared 16 years a go...no one can prove what happened or who was responsible it seems.

IMO the only way of solving this is for fresh eyes to look at it from the begining....not half way through.
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The Germans say they do know and have evidence to show Maddie was murdered.

Amaral and those who believe Maddie died in the apartment think they know what happened but we know they don't have the evidence to prove it...they think they do...but they are wrong

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #472 on: May 20, 2023, 02:56:49 PM »
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The Germans say they do know and have evidence to show Maddie was murdered.

Amaral and those who believe Maddie died in the apartment think they know what happened but we know they don't have the evidence to prove it...they think they do...but they are wrong

But what if Wolters proves Maddie was murdered in the apartment?
That would mean Maddie would have died in the apartment. So Amaral would have been right.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #473 on: May 20, 2023, 03:00:17 PM »
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The Germans say they do know and have evidence to show Maddie was murdered.

Amaral and those who believe Maddie died in the apartment think they know what happened but we know they don't have the evidence to prove it...they think they do...but they are wrong

Amaral has in fact made the whole thing so much worse.  What I want to know is Why.

Offline jassi

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #474 on: May 20, 2023, 03:22:18 PM »
But what if Wolters proves Maddie was murdered in the apartment?
That would mean Maddie would have died in the apartment. So Amaral would have been right.

An interesting idea.
It would also mean the McCann was completely wrong over Madeleine not coming to any harm.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #475 on: May 20, 2023, 05:28:04 PM »
An interesting idea.
It would also mean the McCann was completely wrong over Madeleine not coming to any harm.
Oh dear, more twisting of the facts.  The McCanns have never EVER stated that Madeleine has come to no harm, only that there is no evidence that she has come to harm.  Perhaps the difference is too subtle for you to grasp, or perhaps it simply suits you to propagandise to fit your agenda.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #476 on: May 20, 2023, 05:29:40 PM »
Also how does Madeleine being murdered by a paedophile in the apartment vindicate Amaral and his batty thesis?  *%87
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #477 on: May 20, 2023, 05:43:09 PM »
Also how does Madeleine being murdered by a paedophile in the apartment vindicate Amaral and his batty thesis?  *%87

It's simple enough. Maddie gets murdered in the apartment, so, dies in the apartment & that means Amaral was right that she was dead. Ok, he got the perpetrator wrong, but he was still right about her being dead in the apartment. Can't win them all. But this is all libellous supposition anyway & I may have to report myself, because Brueckner MUST be presumed innocent, that is The Law, & that means he just didn't do it.
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Offline kizzy

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #478 on: May 21, 2023, 08:58:29 AM »
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The Germans say they do know and have evidence to show Maddie was murdered.

Amaral and those who believe Maddie died in the apartment think they know what happened but we know they don't have the evidence to prove it...they think they do...but they are wrong


Amaral and those who believe Maddie died in the apartment think they know what happened




Why is GA such a thorn in your side...why do your posts continually bring him up. [and others]

It seems he is a massive threat to your beliefs ....why.

You think HCW has it all in hand ....so why do you feel you have to constantly slag off GA.

You say GA hasn't the evidence to prove it ...but no one has proved him wrong.

Looks like the same thing is going to happen with your man...........as was predicted from day one.


Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #479 on: May 21, 2023, 09:34:31 AM »

Amaral and those who believe Maddie died in the apartment think they know what happened




Why is GA such a thorn in your side...why do your posts continually bring him up. [and others]

It seems he is a massive threat to your beliefs ....why.

You think HCW has it all in hand ....so why do you feel you have to constantly slag off GA.

You say GA hasn't the evidence to prove it ...but no one has proved him wrong.

Looks like the same thing is going to happen with your man...........as was predicted from day one.
Why do you and others constantly feel the need to slag off HCW?  It seems he is a massive threat to your beliefs… has he been proved wrong? 
Amaral has been proven to be a liar, HCW has not.  There’s one difference for you.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".