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Offline kizzy

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #480 on: May 21, 2023, 10:12:51 AM »
Why do you and others constantly feel the need to slag off HCW?  It seems he is a massive threat to your beliefs… has he been proved wrong? 
Amaral has been proven to be a liar, HCW has not.  There’s one difference for you.

Amaral has been proven to be a liar, HCW has not.


Time will tell on that one.

Think you are a bit naive to think coppers/prosecutors don't lie....thought you had more about you than that.

What prompts it
It’s fairly common for officers to lie in police reports, said Philip Stinson, a criminologist and professor of criminal justice at Bowling Green State University.


Stinson has tracked arrest cases of nonfederal sworn law enforcement officers who have been charged with at least one crime from 2005 to 2014. His research shows that out of more than 10,000 officer arrest cases, about 6.3% involved false reports or statements. About a quarter of those cases involving false reports or statements also involved alleged acts of police violence – and he said the problem is probably more common than the data suggests.




Offline Mr Gray

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #481 on: May 21, 2023, 10:27:49 AM »

Amaral and those who believe Maddie died in the apartment think they know what happened




Why is GA such a thorn in your side...why do your posts continually bring him up. [and others]

It seems he is a massive threat to your beliefs ....why.

You think HCW has it all in hand ....so why do you feel you have to constantly slag off GA.

You say GA hasn't the evidence to prove it ...but no one has proved him wrong.

Looks like the same thing is going to happen with your man...........as was predicted from day one.

It is proven that the evidence Amaral used  to support his thesis is wrong...

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #482 on: May 21, 2023, 10:51:38 AM »
It is proven that the evidence Amaral used  to support his thesis is wrong...

Well that's not entirely true. The ECHR have recently confirmed that the dog alerted to cadaver odour. It's a proven fact now.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #483 on: May 21, 2023, 11:04:28 AM »
Well that's not entirely true. The ECHR have recently confirmed that the dog alerted to cadaver odour. It's a proven fact now.

No it isn't.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #484 on: May 21, 2023, 03:00:14 PM »
No it isn't.

Because you don't believe it?
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #485 on: May 21, 2023, 03:18:52 PM »
Because you don't believe it?

Show me a Cite where The ECHR confirms that the Dogs alerted to Cadaver Odour.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #486 on: May 21, 2023, 03:48:28 PM »
Because you don't believe it?

I think Grime should be ashamed of himself.
In Jersey an official enquiry found he took the investigation in the wrong direction so it's no stretch of the imagination to think the same thing happened in Luz

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #487 on: May 21, 2023, 04:44:13 PM »
Amaral has been proven to be a liar, HCW has not.


Time will tell on that one.

Think you are a bit naive to think coppers/prosecutors don't lie....thought you had more about you than that.

What prompts it
It’s fairly common for officers to lie in police reports, said Philip Stinson, a criminologist and professor of criminal justice at Bowling Green State University.


Stinson has tracked arrest cases of nonfederal sworn law enforcement officers who have been charged with at least one crime from 2005 to 2014. His research shows that out of more than 10,000 officer arrest cases, about 6.3% involved false reports or statements. About a quarter of those cases involving false reports or statements also involved alleged acts of police violence – and he said the problem is probably more common than the data suggests.
It’s nothing to do with naivity, it’s a factual statement.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #488 on: May 21, 2023, 04:47:20 PM »
Because you don't believe it?
Eleanor is correct to say that the dog alerts are not proven to have been to cadaver, it’s got nothing to do with belief (though presumably you and the troll believe that they did and that it has been proven but only because you both live in an alternative reality  @)(++(* )
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Eleanor

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #489 on: May 21, 2023, 05:53:06 PM »

No Cite from The ECHR then.

Offline jassi

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #490 on: May 21, 2023, 07:40:04 PM »
I don't remember if the ECHR even mentioned or considered dogs, but one thing is certain, the dogs sure do cause angst for supporters.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #491 on: May 21, 2023, 08:33:13 PM »
I don't remember if the ECHR even mentioned or considered dogs, but one thing is certain, the dogs sure do cause angst for supporters.
You are deluded.  There is no angst, only incredulity that sceptics still place any faith in the dog alerts.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Brietta

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #492 on: May 21, 2023, 11:02:39 PM »
You are deluded.  There is no angst, only incredulity that sceptics still place any faith in the dog alerts.

Any who subscribe to the notion that Calpol is a sedative will believe anything.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #493 on: May 22, 2023, 08:00:13 AM »
You are deluded.  There is no angst, only incredulity that sceptics still place any faith in the dog alerts.

It's quite strange considering the herculean efforts McCann supporters have made trying to convince the world that cadaver dogs, particularly those trained and used by Martin Grime, are unreliable.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #494 on: May 22, 2023, 08:15:43 AM »
It's quite strange considering the herculean efforts McCann supporters have made trying to convince the world that cadaver dogs, particularly those trained and used by Martin Grime, are unreliable.
What?  More strange than the even more hurculean efforts made by sceptics to convince the world that the McCanns dunnit?  Get a grip.  You actually believe that the dog alerts were proven to be to cadaver don’t you?
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