Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?

[Brietta]

No I know your not ...........your only interested what you Think happened.

But then again didn't you once say you only come on now and again as a pastime.

Anyway an educated Guess ......I would say the photo was took as a crime scene photo.

Ahh - there are just so many who do not 'think' but who 'know' what happened. They even write books and make 'movies' and think they can sleuth it out on thousands of internet blogs.
The truth is they weren't there and they haven't a clue what happened beyond what their infertile brains sometimes feverishly dream up.

On the other hand it is not for anyone to question or criticise why or when members may CHOOSE to contribute to the forum; that is entirely a decision for the member concerned. Members are welcome to post whenever they feel like it or not, as the case might be.

[kizzy]

Ahh - there are just so many who do not 'think' but who 'know' what happened. They even write books and make 'movies' and think they can sleuth it out on thousands of internet blogs.
The truth is they weren't there and they haven't a clue what happened beyond what their infertile brains sometimes feverishly dream up.

On the other hand it is not for anyone to question or criticise why or when members may CHOOSE to contribute to the forum; that is entirely a decision for the member concerned. Members are welcome to post whenever they feel like it or not, as the case might be.

I must entirely agree......everyone is entitled to there theory/opinion.

But Its not right to call them crackpots either......because of there theory/opinion



The truth is though......G,A. was there at the very beginning with an insight as to what was going on at the time

Also with inside information. 

[kizzy]

The photo showed a clear photo of Madeleine's face along with the eye.  Yes more than one timeline did they try to hide that?  NO

The photo was very different to how Maddie looked when she went missing.

It could have also affected any sighting of when Maddie was last seen....

There where IIRC there were discussions about at the time ...the photo resembled M O daughter.

[Brietta]

CB was only made arguido by the PJ due to pressure from the Germans as the statute of limitations was about to expire. A technical exercise. Tick box to appease our Teutonic overlords.

In your opinion only.

Mine is that the PJ are more keen than any others to wipe out the absolute mismanagement and very basic investigative errors over which PJ circa 2007 presided.

If any have learned anything from that debacle it is the Portuguese. Just as they followed SY in 2013 they followed the BKA in 2022. And with any luck the three police forces of England, Germany and Portugal will be able to keep a tremendously dangerous sex offender off the streets and away from women and children.

'Technical' ... Obeisance to 'Overlords' ...
Really don't think so. Today's PJ have a bit of honour to retrieve from the debacle of 2007/8. I'll guarantee they left no stone unturned and couldn't contain themselves when had the evidence to ask the BKA to read Brueckner his rights for them.

The actual narrative is not yours - it is mine; and the truth of the matter is that it was the PJ's turn to play the 'overlord' on that occasion.

[Brietta]

I must entirely agree......everyone is entitled to there theory/opinion.

But Its not right to call them crackpots either......because of there theory/opinion



The truth is though......G,A. was there at the very beginning with an insight as to what was going on at the time

Also with inside information.

Nothing emphasis your lack of understanding gleaned over the years than the suggestion that the arguido Amaral knew anything about about conducting a meaningful investigation into a missing child.

His book is a catalogue of his inadequacies and reflects his incompetence which totally neglected looking for a missing child being too busy with a vendetta against her parents.

[kizzy]

Nothing emphasis your lack of understanding gleaned over the years than the suggestion that the arguido Amaral knew anything about about conducting a meaningful investigation into a missing child.

His book is a catalogue of his inadequacies and reflects his incompetence which totally neglected looking for a missing child being too busy with a vendetta against her parents.

In fairness..as you like to be.

The mccs also had a vendetta against G.A.....making  his book a best seller...giving it publicity money couldn't buy.

And is still there for everyone to read why he thought the mccs involved in what happened to Maddie

No one to this day knows what happened to Maddie...so abduction/no abduction... its either one.

Was G.A. on the right track...we dont know either.

[Vertigo Swirl]

In fairness..as you like to be.

The mccs also had a vendetta against G.A.....making  his book a best seller...giving it publicity money couldn't buy.

And is still there for everyone to read why he thought the mccs involved in what happened to Maddie

No one to this day knows what happened to Maddie...so abduction/no abduction... its either one.

Was G.A. on the right track...we dont know either.

I thought you knew she wasn’t abducted?  Anyway,Amaral had inside info and he thought Madeleine’s defrosting body was in the back of the hire car.  This seems perfectly plausible to me, but we’d really need to figure out where the freezer was that the McC had access first in order to make any further progress in this case.  The freezer is the key.

[kizzy]

I thought you knew she wasn’t abducted?  Anyway,Amaral had inside info and he thought Madeleine’s defrosting body was in the back of the hire car.  This seems perfectly plausible to me, but we’d really need to figure out where the freezer was that the McC had access first in order to make any further progress in this case.  The freezer is the key.

OH I don't believe Maddie was abducted....but you have to be fair to those who think she was VS

G.A never got chance to carry on so he would have probably worked it out....we will never know.

Anyroads my thoughts of G.A....... is I believe he he was on the right track.

The key.is the window.......was it open when kmc checked at 10

[Eleanor]

I thought you knew she wasn’t abducted?  Anyway,Amaral had inside info and he thought Madeleine’s defrosting body was in the back of the hire car.  This seems perfectly plausible to me, but we’d really need to figure out where the freezer was that the McC had access first in order to make any further progress in this case.  The freezer is the key.

According to Gonçalo Amaral the Freezer was in an empty flat close by and he was just about to expose it when he got distracted by God knows what.

[Vertigo Swirl]

OH I don't believe Maddie was abducted....but you have to be fair to those who think she was VS

G.A never got chance to carry on so he would have probably worked it out....we will never know.

Anyroads my thoughts of G.A....... is I believe he he was on the right track.

The key.is the window.......was it open when kmc checked at 10

No, the key is the freezer.  Work out where it was and how they gained access to it and the rest falls into place.  Perhaps there was a freezer somewhere along the route taken by Smithman?  Just a thought…

[Vertigo Swirl]

According to Gonçalo Amaral the Freezer was in an empty flat close by and he was just about to expose it when he got distracted by God knows what.

Well he still has his ace to play, and I expect he is just biding his time until the right moment to play it. Patience!  Softly, softly….

[Vertigo Swirl]

OH I don't believe Maddie was abducted....but you have to be fair to those who think she was VS

G.A never got chance to carry on so he would have probably worked it out....we will never know.

Anyroads my thoughts of G.A....... is I believe he he was on the right track.

The key.is the window.......was it open when kmc checked at 10

Anyway, we know the window was open because Kate McCann said so and as she left her finger prints all over it that proves it.  The window is not the key. 

[kizzy]

According to Gonçalo Amaral the Freezer was in an empty flat close by and he was just about to expose it when he got distracted by God knows what.

he was just about to expose it when he got distracted by God knows what.

Was it when he got took off the case , maybe

[Eleanor]

he was just about to expose it when he got distracted by God knows what.

Was it when he got took off the case , maybe

Quite possibly, but I so then obviously none of work mates thought it was important or even likely.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Quite possibly, but I so then obviously none of work mates thought it was important or even likely.

Ah, but they were under the cosh of the Brits by then, don’t forget.  The PJ weren’t strong enough stand up to their McCann protrcting agenda, which is very unfortunate.