Author Topic: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?  (Read 287264 times)

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #1050 on: January 29, 2025, 05:12:24 PM »
What ever we believe and 3 police forces according to the mccs Maddie is still alive..same as she was abducted.

Wonder if HCW knew about the dogs ...or DNA.
I didn’t understand your first sentence and HCW will know about the dogs and the DNA of that I’m pretty certain.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline kizzy

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #1051 on: January 29, 2025, 05:30:51 PM »
I didn’t understand your first sentence and HCW will know about the dogs and the DNA of that I’m pretty certain.

The 3 police forces are working on the theory Maddie is dead...[hate typing that]

Yet the mcs still believe Maddie is still alive...so wonder who they will be looking for next.

Why would HCW know about dogs/dna .if he is convinced CB took a live Maddie  from the apartment.
« Last Edit: January 29, 2025, 05:48:52 PM by kizzy »

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #1052 on: January 29, 2025, 06:17:58 PM »
The 3 police forces are working on the theory Maddie is dead...[hate typing that]

Yet the mcs still believe Maddie is still alive...so wonder who they will be looking for next.

Why would HCW know about dogs/dna .if he is convinced CB took a live Maddie  from the apartment.
I don’t think the McCanns believe Madeleine is definitely alive, only that all the while they haven’t been presented with evidence that she is dead that they will continue to hope that she is alive.  Who knows, this might already have happened now. 
Everyone remotely interested in this case knows about the dogs and the dna.  They made headlines around the world.  It would be literally incredible if HCW was unaware of the facts of the case he is investigating.  But why don’t you reach out to his office to let him know, just in case?  He might drop everything and become a sceptic like you. Lol.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #1053 on: January 29, 2025, 06:50:41 PM »
I don’t think the McCanns believe Madeleine is definitely alive, only that all the while they haven’t been presented with evidence that she is dead that they will continue to hope that she is alive.  Who knows, this might already have happened now. 
Everyone remotely interested in this case knows about the dogs and the dna.  They made headlines around the world.  It would be literally incredible if HCW was unaware of the facts of the case he is investigating.  But why don’t you reach out to his office to let him know, just in case?  He might drop everything and become a sceptic like you. Lol.

Why do you think they haven’t closed the fund and given the money to similar causes?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline jassi

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #1054 on: January 29, 2025, 06:59:45 PM »
Why do you think they haven’t closed the fund and given the money to similar causes?
Because they don't want to.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #1055 on: January 29, 2025, 07:23:53 PM »
Why do you think they haven’t closed the fund and given the money to similar causes?
Because the case hasn’t been solved and a perpetrator brought to justice yet.  Why do you think they haven’t fully embraced the German investigation and taken every opportunity to express support for the idea that CB is responsible for? 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #1056 on: January 29, 2025, 07:39:04 PM »
Because the case hasn’t been solved and a perpetrator brought to justice yet.  Why do you think they haven’t fully embraced the German investigation and taken every opportunity to express support for the idea that CB is responsible for?

What could they possibly do with the money that hasn’t been done by the Met, the Germans, the Portuguese et al?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #1057 on: January 29, 2025, 08:15:30 PM »
What could they possibly do with the money that hasn’t been done by the Met, the Germans, the Portuguese et al?
lol, how did I know you wouldn’t answer my question even though I very courteously answered yours?  Why are you so rude?  Two more questions for you to ignore there.
I have no idea what their plans are for the money.  Why don’t you write to them and ask if it irks you so.  Do you think they could make use of it to build an extension and go on a world cruise without anyone noticing?  Another question for you to ignore.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #1058 on: January 29, 2025, 11:18:04 PM »
lol, how did I know you wouldn’t answer my question even though I very courteously answered yours?  Why are you so rude?  Two more questions for you to ignore there.
I have no idea what their plans are for the money.  Why don’t you write to them and ask if it irks you so.  Do you think they could make use of it to build an extension and go on a world cruise without anyone noticing?  Another question for you to ignore.

No. I think they should give the money to other families who are in the same situation but do not have access to the same funding streams the parents had. People opened their hearts and their purses when the parents were in need. Wouldn’t it be kind of them to reciprocate the gesture? I hear the Cipriano woman is continuing the search for her daughter since leaving prison….perhaps she’d be glad of a few euros tossed her way? Or perhaps donate the money to the Missing People charity who have always been supportive of them?

As to your two previous questions, we have no idea how the parents feel about Wolters theory or CB. Apart from the occasional brief missives on their Facebook page they have been all but silent these past 5 years.
« Last Edit: January 29, 2025, 11:29:27 PM by faithlilly »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline sadie

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #1059 on: January 30, 2025, 02:22:30 AM »
The 3 police forces are working on the theory Maddie is dead...[hate typing that]

Yet the mcs still believe Maddie is still alive...so wonder who they will be looking for next.

Why would HCW know about dogs/dna .if he is convinced CB took a live Maddie  from the apartment.

No Kizzy, I think that you are wrong.

Last time, quite a few moons ago, I remember us all discussing it.   I think that we agreed that SY / OG refused to back HCW about thinking Madeleine was dead.   At that time OG thought that she might well be alive.   There were a multitude of pointers.

I don't remember any public change in their stance; does anyone?

Offline The General

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #1060 on: January 30, 2025, 07:23:14 AM »
I don’t think the McCanns believe Madeleine is definitely alive, only that all the while they haven’t been presented with evidence that she is dead that they will continue to hope that she is alive.  Who knows, this might already have happened now. 
Everyone remotely interested in this case knows about the dogs and the dna.  They made headlines around the world.  It would be literally incredible if HCW was unaware of the facts of the case he is investigating.  But why don’t you reach out to his office to let him know, just in case?  He might drop everything and become a sceptic like you. Lol.
Bit rude that, innit, HCW writing them a letter but not actually disclosing his proof? I mean, apparently the letter never arrived, but one would have thought that the family would be desperate to know the deets and ask him to send it again, or email, or nip over and have a chat - bring your evidence with ya, Hansie.
Someone's telling porkies.
Subject Matter Expert - Hobos.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #1061 on: January 30, 2025, 07:27:03 AM »
No. I think they should give the money to other families who are in the same situation but do not have access to the same funding streams the parents had. People opened their hearts and their purses when the parents were in need. Wouldn’t it be kind of them to reciprocate the gesture? I hear the Cipriano woman is continuing the search for her daughter since leaving prison….perhaps she’d be glad of a few euros tossed her way? Or perhaps donate the money to the Missing People charity who have always been supportive of them?

As to your two previous questions, we have no idea how the parents feel about Wolters theory or CB. Apart from the occasional brief missives on their Facebook page they have been all but silent these past 5 years.
Well perhaps they should appoint you as their special advisor, I’m sure they’d be grateful to be told by you what they should do with the fund money as you obviously have its best interests at heart.  In fact, why don’t you start a petition demanding they divest themselves of the fund just so you can sleep easier at night knowing that it’s out of their evil clutches?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #1062 on: January 30, 2025, 07:28:37 AM »
Bit rude that, innit, HCW writing them a letter but not actually disclosing his proof? I mean, apparently the letter never arrived, but one would have thought that the family would be desperate to know the deets and ask him to send it again, or email, or nip over and have a chat - bring your evidence with ya, Hansie.
Someone's telling porkies.
And what would either side have to gain from lying about something like that?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline The General

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #1063 on: January 30, 2025, 07:31:37 AM »
Because the case hasn’t been solved and a perpetrator brought to justice yet.  Why do you think they haven’t fully embraced the German investigation and taken every opportunity to express support for the idea that CB is responsible for?
Can any of us come up with a plausible explanation for this (your second question)?
Subject Matter Expert - Hobos.

Offline The General

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #1064 on: January 30, 2025, 07:35:20 AM »
And what would either side have to gain from lying about something like that?
Ask the dogs, Maureen.
Well someone's lying or one or both parties are mistaken, how about that?
Subject Matter Expert - Hobos.