Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?

[The General]

I didn't know that his health was failing.   I am sorry to hear that and hope he will soon be better.

What old muck being raked up are you on about?   I seem to have missed stuff here.   Was it when I was in the nursing home for four months



And Tripoli .... completely new to me!   Can you, or someone else, fill me in please.

I thought that he was a champion at Quidditch and that's played on broomsticks innit?


Get well soon Myster.

ffs Sadie, I'm not sure where to start. Quidditch isn't a real game and broomsticks can't really fly. The game appears in a book, written by JR Hartley, about a boy wizard called Harry. Although wizards are real, none of them possess mystical powers up to and including levitation.
I'm not really a General (just like I'm not a real welder, to make reference to the punchline of the classic joke), and Myster isn't my dad as far as I am aware. I don't know Myster, we've never conversed, never met, although he / she has my respect as a top contributor to the forum.
I'm just a knobhead from Liverpool and certainly not from wherever it was you said I hailed from.

I have been to Tripoli, which actually is a tale worth telling, but I doubt Myster has - he / she / they might have - but we certainly weren't there together. Myster also appears to be in rude health, given their quality of output here, so I don't think there's any cause to fret.
The icon image I used which contained the word 'KNEEL' was in fact a picture of  the comic book supervillain, General Zod, played by the Oscar nominated Terence Stamp in the motion picture Superman (1978). It had no significance other than he was a General, just like Russell Crowe is General Maximus. I thought about using General De Gaull, be he's French, or General Rommel or Goering, but they're nazi German c*&^s.
I have to admit that I've been playing along, but that's just making things worse. I'm going to nip off again soon on another sabbatical, so I thought I'd come clean.

If these revelations come as a shock maybe it's time to take stock of what you believe to be true.

Best Regards,

The General (not a real General).

[The General]

Anyway, would one of you mods please authorise my new topic post which might (or might not)  spark some interesting debate on a completely unrelated case.

This had better be good, there's a lot at stake.

[Vertigo Swirl]

This had better be good, there's a lot at stake.

By the time my thread gets authorised she’ll be back on the streets free to murder more babies (a subtle clue, and no I’m not convinced her conviction was safe before you start).

[The General]

By the time my thread gets authorised she’ll be back on the streets free to murder more babies (a subtle clue, and no I’m not convinced her conviction was safe before you start).

We may as well kick it off - I think she did it, it's pretty obvious, the notes, the times and days, the witnesses - but the trial has left a gaping hole for her to crawl through unfortunately - all my uninformed opinion.
Deffo worth a thread of its own.

[Vertigo Swirl]

We may as well kick it off - I think she did it, it's pretty obvious, the notes, the times and days, the witnesses - but the trial has left a gaping hole for her to crawl through unfortunately - all my uninformed opinion.
Deffo worth a thread of its own.

Definitely.  I was convinced she was guilty too, but having engaged with some absolutely passionate supporters of hers online I could see they had a point about alot of the evidence presented against her at trial.  This has been further reinforced by the press conference yesterday.  I do now think there is reasonable doubt but it’s hard to look at pictures of her without thinking “evil baby murderer”.

[The General]

Definitely.  I was convinced she was guilty too, but having engaged with some absolutely passionate supporters of hers online I could see they had a point about alot of the evidence presented against her at trial.  This has been further reinforced by the press conference yesterday.  I do now think there is reasonable doubt but it’s hard to look at pictures of her without thinking “evil baby murderer”.

I suppose this is the ethical dillema; the rule of law being applied fairly and robustly set against an almost certainly guilty defendant. You can support the unsafe conviction without supporting the accused.

That's what makes our justice system the envy of the civilised world, everybody says it, the best...... YEEEEHAAAAA, let's move all thos arabs and build the Gaza Riviera.....WOOOOooOOo.....

[Eleanor]

Definitely.  I was convinced she was guilty too, but having engaged with some absolutely passionate supporters of hers online I could see they had a point about alot of the evidence presented against her at trial.  This has been further reinforced by the press conference yesterday.  I do now think there is reasonable doubt but it’s hard to look at pictures of her without thinking “evil baby murderer”.

Where is it?  I can't find it.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Where is it?  I can't find it.

I posted it in the Stories In The News sub forum.

[faithlilly]

I suppose this is the ethical dillema; the rule of law being applied fairly and robustly set against an almost certainly guilty defendant. You can support the unsafe conviction without supporting the accused.

That's what makes our justice system the envy of the civilised world, everybody says it, the best...... YEEEEHAAAAA, let's move all thos arabs and build the Gaza Riviera.....WOOOOooOOo.....

Let’s see how that pans out.

[Eleanor]

We may as well kick it off - I think she did it, it's pretty obvious, the notes, the times and days, the witnesses - but the trial has left a gaping hole for her to crawl through unfortunately - all my uninformed opinion.
Deffo worth a thread of its own.

Please take this comment to the right Thread/. It has been approved.

[kizzy]

How do sceptics explain the corroborative evidence of the video tapes as supplied by the ex-girlfriend Marina F and his ex partner in crime Christian P?  is there a multi person plot to bring Christian B down and did the ex girlfriend go so far as to present a forged note to the court claiming to be from her ex?  I presume this can be your only explanation as you’ve all decided that the video tapes never existed haven’t you?

your only explanation as you’ve all decided that the video tapes never existed haven’t you?

Have you proof then that they do exist...or any of it can even be classed as corroborative evidence.

Well it seems a lot of the HCW evidence ...now seems could be a bluff which I think most of us knew.

Even HCW isn't a prosecutor. He is a spokesman.

We have learned nothing ....no further on than 3/6/2007.

IMO the only way this will be solved is if fresh eyes go back to the very begining.

Martin Brunt ......we are no further on........its still a mystery..

Well it is to some ....but not to me it isnt [a mystery]

[The General]

your only explanation as you’ve all decided that the video tapes never existed haven’t you?

Have you proof then that they do exist...or any of it can even be classed as corroborative evidence.

Well it seems a lot of the HCW evidence ...now seems could be a bluff which I think most of us knew.

Even HCW isn't a prosecutor. He is a spokesman.

We have learned nothing ....no further on than 3/6/2007.

IMO the only way this will be solved is if fresh eyes go back to the very begining.

Martin Brunt ......we are no further on........its still a mystery..

Well it is to some ....but not to me it isnt [a mystery]

Can't be that corroborative if HCW hasn't produced them.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Can't be that corroborative if HCW hasn't produced them.

The corroborative evidence of the existence of the video tapes was presented in court.  Please re-read the post of mine that Kizzy quoted but then ignored the substance of.

[Vertigo Swirl]

your only explanation as you’ve all decided that the video tapes never existed haven’t you?

Have you proof then that they do exist...or any of it can even be classed as corroborative evidence.

Well it seems a lot of the HCW evidence ...now seems could be a bluff which I think most of us knew.

Even HCW isn't a prosecutor. He is a spokesman.

We have learned nothing ....no further on than 3/6/2007.

IMO the only way this will be solved is if fresh eyes go back to the very begining.

Martin Brunt ......we are no further on........its still a mystery..

Well it is to some ....but not to me it isnt [a mystery]

As you’re not interested in the recent court case against CB I presume you didn’t bother reading the article I posted by Jutta Raabe on a preceding page of this thread?  Or perhaps you did and just didn’t understand it, or thought it was McCann sponsored propaganda or something sinister concocted by the MSM?

[kizzy]

The corroborative evidence of the existence of the video tapes was presented in court.  Please re-read the post of mine that Kizzy quoted but then ignored the substance of.

The corroborative evidence of the existence of the video tapes was presented in court.

Do you mean this

Although the videos have disappeared, the two witnesses testified that they recognised Christian B. as the perpetrator on the videos.