Author Topic: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?  (Read 287409 times)

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Offline The General

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #1350 on: February 09, 2025, 10:57:27 AM »
Sceptics in general do not have a single independent thought in their heads. The narrative has to emanate from the  sick mind of the latest conspiracy theorist in vogue to do what passes for their thinking for them.

To a man/woman they abhorred every penny spent on finding Madelaine McCann but think nothing of their current source of slurs making capital out of a missing child.
I can smell your anger. Chill out, babe, there's no harm any more.
Brenda's dead now. It's over.
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Offline kizzy

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #1351 on: February 09, 2025, 11:11:53 AM »
Don’t forget the smiling outside the church when the balloons were released and the photo of Maddie wearing lipstick. 
Question: if Gerry McCann had found Madeleine dead in the apartment after falling off the sofa or balcony and carried her body through town afterwards what sort of forensic evidence proving this do you think might have been destroyed by the 20+ people walking through the apartment that night?

what sort of forensic evidence proving this do you think might have been destroyed by the 20+ people walking through the apartment that night?

well we will never know what was destroyed .....will we.

The thing is kmcc "knew" that Maddie had been taken straight away.

She  thoughroly searched the apartment [10mins] yet the mccs let everyone in  ......why


Pre-Secured Scenes
The potential for evidence (or crime scene) contamination increases as the number of people entering a crime scene also increases. Once a scene has been secured, the risk of contamination is greatly reduced. However, what about the events which occurred before the scene was secured? How many people entered and left the scene without being recorded as being there?

Offline Lace

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #1352 on: February 09, 2025, 11:42:08 AM »
what sort of forensic evidence proving this do you think might have been destroyed by the 20+ people walking through the apartment that night?

well we will never know what was destroyed .....will we.

The thing is kmcc "knew" that Maddie had been taken straight away.

She  thoughroly searched the apartment [10mins] yet the mccs let everyone in  ......why


Pre-Secured Scenes
The potential for evidence (or crime scene) contamination increases as the number of people entering a crime scene also increases. Once a scene has been secured, the risk of contamination is greatly reduced. However, what about the events which occurred before the scene was secured? How many people entered and left the scene without being recorded as being there?



What about the police and their dogs?   Leaving fag ash and hairs?

So if Kate said in her distressed state no one enter the apartment.  What would have been said about that.  What is Kate hiding probably.

When you have found your child missing you are hardly in any state to think about destroying evidence.  Amaral hadn't  lost a child though and he allowed the bedding to be taken away to be washed!!

Offline kizzy

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #1353 on: February 09, 2025, 11:51:36 AM »

What about the police and their dogs?   Leaving fag ash and hairs?

So if Kate said in her distressed state no one enter the apartment.  What would have been said about that.  What is Kate hiding probably.

When you have found your child missing you are hardly in any state to think about destroying evidence.  Amaral hadn't  lost a child though and he allowed the bedding to be taken away to be washed!!


When you have found your child missing you are hardly in any state to think about destroying evidence.

What when you know your child has been abducted like kmc was.

Offline kizzy

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #1354 on: February 09, 2025, 12:02:17 PM »

What about the police and their dogs?   Leaving fag ash and hairs?

So if Kate said in her distressed state no one enter the apartment.  What would have been said about that.  What is Kate hiding probably.

When you have found your child missing you are hardly in any state to think about destroying evidence.  Amaral hadn't  lost a child though and he allowed the bedding to be taken away to be washed!!

When you have found your child missing you are hardly in any state to think about destroying evidence

The thing here as well  ...we dont know what she was thinking it seems  about destroying evidence

Offline Lace

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #1355 on: February 09, 2025, 12:27:30 PM »
When you have found your child missing you are hardly in any state to think about destroying evidence

The thing here as well  ...we dont know what she was thinking it seems  about destroying evidence

How did she destroy evidence?  Kate was in a state of shock.  Yes she thought to herself that Madeleine had been abducted but having found her daughter missing she was in a very vulnerable condition and wouldn't have been thinking straight.  'She certainly wouldn't have been thinking like a Police Officer who should have taped the area off straight away.

Offline Lace

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #1356 on: February 09, 2025, 12:29:44 PM »

When you have found your child missing you are hardly in any state to think about destroying evidence.

What when you know your child has been abducted like kmc was.

For gods sake!!  yes she thought Madeleine had been taken that doesn't mean she was able to act as a Police officer does it?  Your head would be all over the place.  Are you unable to put your self in Kates position?

Offline kizzy

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #1357 on: February 09, 2025, 12:44:23 PM »
How did she destroy evidence?  Kate was in a state of shock.  Yes she thought to herself that Madeleine had been abducted but having found her daughter missing she was in a very vulnerable condition and wouldn't have been thinking straight.  'She certainly wouldn't have been thinking like a Police Officer who should have taped the area off straight away.

What would be the point of that really.....when 20 + had already trampled round it huh.

I don't know what she was thinking.............but guess what - neither do you.

Offline kizzy

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #1358 on: February 09, 2025, 12:46:26 PM »
For gods sake!!  yes she thought Madeleine had been taken that doesn't mean she was able to act as a Police officer does it?  Your head would be all over the place.  Are you unable to put your self in Kates position?

Are you unable to put your self in Kates position?

No, I have ....that is the reason I am on here

Offline Lace

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #1359 on: February 09, 2025, 02:43:25 PM »
What would be the point of that really.....when 20 + had already trampled round it huh.

I don't know what she was thinking.............but guess what - neither do you.

I can guess what she was thinking.  Where is Madeleine is she being hurt..

Offline The General

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #1360 on: February 09, 2025, 03:19:35 PM »
How did she destroy evidence?  Kate was in a state of shock.  Yes she thought to herself that Madeleine had been abducted but having found her daughter missing she was in a very vulnerable condition and wouldn't have been thinking straight.  'She certainly wouldn't have been thinking like a Police Officer who should have taped the area off straight away.
A difficult time, I imagine.

Best regards,

The Gen
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Offline The General

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #1361 on: February 09, 2025, 03:20:33 PM »
I can guess what she was thinking.  Where is Madeleine is she being hurt..
By the couch?
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Offline kizzy

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #1362 on: February 09, 2025, 03:24:52 PM »
I can guess what she was thinking.  Where is Madeleine is she being hurt..

Oh well ..that's that then.

But you know what ...did they have a braincell between them....they wrote the timeline quickly enough.

Firstly leaving the children in harms way.

Then not a thought to keep everyone out.

Maybe too busy on phone - letting every one know Maddie was abducted.


Offline Lace

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #1363 on: February 09, 2025, 03:31:51 PM »
Oh well ..that's that then.

But you know what ...did they have a braincell between them....they wrote the timeline quickly enough.

Firstly leaving the children in harms way.

Then not a thought to keep everyone out.

Maybe too busy on phone - letting every one know Maddie was abducted.

Better to let loved ones no before they see it on the media.

Offline kizzy

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #1364 on: February 09, 2025, 03:58:56 PM »
Better to let loved ones no before they see it on the media.

Well seemed it was there main priority...bit of a shock though for them...especially if Maddie had been found

Well good on kmc to know she wasn't going to be found .putting the burden on her family as quickly as she did.