Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?

[kizzy]

My point was.... to all who thought I was talking about mccs DNA .....it wasn't

kmc knew straight away - when running to the tapas, Maddie had been taken.

It was it seems to me the reason 20 plus were let into the apartment ....

It contaminated any evidence/DNA being found


after all nothing was found - evidence wise to say Maddie had been abducted


Another unexplained detail is Mrs. McCann's reaction to not immediately finding her daughter. Several sources report her screaming "Madeleine's gone! Someone's taken her!" as she ran back toward the restaurant. In the 2008 interview mentioned previously, she says "I knew straight away that, err, she’d been . . . taken, [you] know." This seems odd to me, and as I understand it, the initial reaction of others on the scene was that Madeleine must have wandered off by accident

[Lace]

Kate searched the apartment so if Madeleine was on the floor after a fall Kate would have found her.

How do you know she didn't find her...

Where would she have hidden Madeleine if she had found her?  She was in there  for ten minutes,  then as you said everyone entered the apartment.  Tell me where she would have hidden Madeleine.

[kizzy]

Where would she have hidden Madeleine if she had found her?  She was in there  for ten minutes,  then as you said everyone entered the apartment.  Tell me where she would have hidden Madeleine.

Well it seems there is speculation that it was before the 3rd.... that Maddie went missing.

[Wonderfulspam]

Where would she have hidden Madeleine if she had found her?  She was in there  for ten minutes,  then as you said everyone entered the apartment.  Tell me where she would have hidden Madeleine.

She opened the window & passed Maddie to Brueckner. That's what the forensic evidence suggests.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Sad really ....to joke about something so tragic

The joke’s on idiots who believe this stuff.  There are people out there who genuinely believe Madeleine’s father callously stuck her body in a fridge or a bin or a sports bag, so why not a washing machine too?  They’re all theories that are as barmy as each other and deserving of ridicule imo.

[Vertigo Swirl]

My point was.... to all who thought I was talking about mccs DNA .....it wasn't

kmc knew straight away - when running to the tapas, Maddie had been taken.

It was it seems to me the reason 20 plus were let into the apartment ....

It contaminated any evidence/DNA being found


after all nothing was found - evidence wise to say Maddie had been abducted


Another unexplained detail is Mrs. McCann's reaction to not immediately finding her daughter. Several sources report her screaming "Madeleine's gone! Someone's taken her!" as she ran back toward the restaurant. In the 2008 interview mentioned previously, she says "I knew straight away that, err, she’d been . . . taken, [you] know." This seems odd to me, and as I understand it, the initial reaction of others on the scene was that Madeleine must have wandered off by accident

Contaminated what evidence?  This brings me back to my question.  What DNA evidence would you expect to find the proved the McCanns covered up the accidental death of their child in that apartment?  There is nothing that could have been found - hairs, blood, saliva, skin flakes, whatever - belonging to any of the McCanns that couldn’t have had a perfectly innocent explanation so there was no advantage in deliberately contaminating the scene as you have suggested.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Well it seems there is speculation that it was before the 3rd.... that Maddie went missing.

Do you seriously believe that’s likely?

[kizzy]

The joke’s on idiots who believe this stuff.  There are people out there who genuinely believe Madeleine’s father callously stuck her body in a fridge or a bin or a sports bag, so why not a washing machine too?  They’re all theories that are as barmy as each other and deserving of ridicule imo.

Why are they idiots ..you should just chill a bit.

You don't know either  if Maddie was took out in a bag or stuck in a bin....you wasn't there was you.

Its just the washing machine on boil I found  that post was nasty.

But if you want to impress with jokes those who you call idiots....I suppose its ur problem

[kizzy]

Contaminated what evidence?  This brings me back to my question.  What DNA evidence would you expect to find the proved the McCanns covered up the accidental death of their child in that apartment?  There is nothing that could have been found - hairs, blood, saliva, skin flakes, whatever - belonging to any of the McCanns that couldn’t have had a perfectly innocent explanation so there was no advantage in deliberately contaminating the scene as you have suggested.

Contaminated what evidence?

So you dont think there was a abduction then.


Well if there had been an abductor......but obviously - you think there wasn't ...there was no evidence to contaminate of one.

[Wonderfulspam]

This is disgusting. I think it's an appalling idea, that Maddie was put in the washing machine. But I think it could also form part of my next new theory.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Why are they idiots ..you should just chill a bit.

You don't know either  if Maddie was took out in a bag or stuck in a bin....you wasn't there was you.

Its just the washing machine on boil I found  that post was nasty.

But if you want to impress with jokes those who you call idiots....I suppose its ur problem

You should just chill a bit, get off your high horse and relax a bit.  There is no evidence that Madeleine was put in a bag or a bin or a fridge or a washing machine but that won’t stop idiotic speculation, it’s been going on for 17+ years now so hardly likely to stop anytime soon.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Contaminated what evidence?

So you dont think there was a abduction then.


Well if there had been an abductor......but obviously - you think there wasn't ...there was no evidence to contaminate of one.

I wish you understood plain English sometimes, it would make having a discussion with you so much easier.
Let’s try and break it down into bite sized chunks:
1) do you think the McCanns deliberately contaminated the crime scene?

YES / NO

If you answered NO then you can stop reading now.
If you answered YES then answer question 2

2) do you think the McCanns found Madeleine dead and covered up her death?

YES/NO

If you answered NO then ask yourself this question - why would they want to contaminate the crime scene and post your answer in the comments below


if you answered YES then ask yourself this question - what forensic evidence do you think the McCanns were trying to contaminate that might link them to the accidental death of Madeleine or to a cover up that could NOT have an innocent explanation? Please post your answer in the comments below.

[Lace]

Well it seems there is speculation that it was before the 3rd.... that Maddie went missing.

Do you know why they think this?  It's because they know the McCann's couldn't have disposed of Madeleine's body on the 3rd of May.  There was no time.  So they come up with this ridiculous idea that Madeleine must have disappeared earlier.  It is ridiculous as Madeleine was SEEN!!  They say everyone must be either lying or mistaken in order to fit in with their theory because they can't be wrong.  The Nanny was lying she must have mistaken Madeleine for another little girl.  It was the Nanny's job to look after the children there weren't many of them.  To say she mixed Madeleine up with another child is absolutely bonkers.  Madeleine was on the beach she went on a boat.  She was seen by people.  Madeleine was at the side of the pool with her Dad and sister.  No she wasn't they say this photo must have been taken on the Sunday as the Sunday was the only day it was sunny.  Rubbish it was sunny on the Thursday.  The friends of the McCann's were on the beach enjoying the sunshine.  Mrs Fenn's niece was sitting outside of her Aunts apartment in the sun she said it was sunny.  Are they all liars?  The man she saw who was fiddling with the gate was wearing a t shirt would he be wearing a t shirt if it was a cold rainy day?   I'm sorry but these people are absolutely crazy to think Madeleine wasn't alive on the Thursday because it doesn't fit in with their theory that the McCann's staged the abduction.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Do you know why they think this?  It's because they know the McCann's couldn't have disposed of Madeleine's body on the 3rd of May.  There was no time.  So they come up with this ridiculous idea that Madeleine must have disappeared earlier.  It is ridiculous as Madeleine was SEEN!!  They say everyone must be either lying or mistaken in order to fit in with their theory because they can't be wrong.  The Nanny was lying she must have mistaken Madeleine for another little girl.  It was the Nanny's job to look after the children there weren't many of them.  To say she mixed Madeleine up with another child is absolutely bonkers.  Madeleine was on the beach she went on a boat.  She was seen by people.  Madeleine was at the side of the pool with her Dad and sister.  No she wasn't they say this photo must have been taken on the Sunday as the Sunday was the only day it was sunny.  Rubbish it was sunny on the Thursday.  The friends of the McCann's were on the beach enjoying the sunshine.  Mrs Fenn's niece was sitting outside of her Aunts apartment in the sun she said it was sunny.  Are they all liars?  The man she saw who was fiddling with the gate was wearing a t shirt would he be wearing a t shirt if it was a cold rainy day?   I'm sorry but these people are absolutely crazy to think Madeleine wasn't alive on the Thursday because it doesn't fit in with their theory that the McCann's staged the abduction.

Post of the day.

[Eleanor]

Nobody. Anybody?