Luke Mitchell - All quiet?

[Mr Apples]

Since SL has been ousted as head honcho, LM's new campaign 'manager'/and on-off gf (GC) has recently been cautioned by Police for threatening to "mow down anyone who gets in her way" and threatening to burn down a journalist who wrote about the case many years ago. It's an even more insular campaign now and seems to be focusing on tagging onto various other perceived MOJ's for publicity.

The futility of it all.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Since SL has been ousted as head honcho, LM's new campaign 'manager'/and on-off gf (GC) has recently been cautioned by Police for threatening to "mow down anyone who gets in her way" and threatening to burn down a journalist who wrote about the case many years ago. It's an even more insular campaign now and seems to be focusing on tagging onto various other perceived MOJ's for publicity.

Sounds like they’re made for each other those two!

[Joe Blogs]

If Phil and Corinne had still been together when Jodi was murdered, I firmly believe there wouldn't have been a court case and LM would have been forced to admit to what he had done, by his father. After their divorce, LM was spoiled, got his own way and left to his own devices and do as he pleased; he was very much the man about the house, even though his older brother Shane was living there, too (eg, allowed to smoke cannabis and drink alcohol at home, deal cannabis, have sex at home, use the family car, given large amounts of cash by his mother for weekend work at her caravan sales site). All of this was a bad combination, especially as LM was very intelligent, independent and a self-confessed hothead (inherited from CM). There were signs LM was a troubled kid from an early age: he had to literally be pulled off another primary school pupil when he was only 11 (and referred to seek professional help for 'throttling' the other pupil). Then we can also factor in his other attacks on young girls, his fascination with knives, death and the macabre -- and his excessive cannabis use. He was also referred to seek psychological help in high school by his English teacher for his fascination with Satan and his Satanic essays. So, yeah, it seems his parents' separation had a negative effect and had gotten progressively worse. With no father figure to discipline  him, it added fuel to the fire and tragically culminated in a young teenager losing her life in the most savage way.

Many are spoiled, Mr Apples, But can that really turn you into a deranged psychopath, is that how it works?

[Kenmair]

And raised by travelling people (the Guettas) -- who are known to be notoriously deceitful and anti-authoritarian -- but wonder if her biological parents have traits making them susceptible to disorders, mental illness, criminality, and so on? Likewise with PM -- what sort of person was he and his immediate family?

Good point. Does SL have connections to the travelling community? Apart from selling her candles, could that be the link between CM & SL. Why else would a murder suspect's mum ask someone with zero experience to be her son's advocate?

[Joe Blogs]

Good point. Does SL have connections to the travelling community? Apart from selling her candles, could that be the link between CM & SL. Why else would a murder suspect's mum ask someone with zero experience to be her son's advocate?

Now now, Ken!
I think you and Mr Apples have gone from posting some reasonable speculation about the case, to getting completely carried away now.
Come back down to Earth, please.

[Kenmair]

Now now, Ken!
I think you and Mr Apples have gone from posting some reasonable speculation about the case, to getting completely carried away now.
Come back down to Earth, please.

It's a fair point that deserves discussion especially as you seem to know everything about Dr L, and have introduced endless speculation about insignificant issues.
I'm very down to earth as Major Tom will confirm.

[faithlilly]

Even though blood is thicker than water, most people wouldn't lie and protect a brutal murderer. But, judging from what I've researched, CM isn't most people. I think the evidence showed categorically that she was lying. Not only lying during the investigation, but lying on the stand as well (and even warned about perjury by ADT). I know CM was adopted. And raised by travelling people (the Guettas) -- who are known to be notoriously deceitful and anti-authoritarian -- but wonder if her biological parents have traits making them susceptible to disorders, mental illness, criminality, and so on? Likewise with PM -- what sort of person was he and his immediate family?

Anyway, the crux of the matter is this: everything the Mitchells did between 30.06.03 and January 2005 was highly suspicious, whereas everything the Jones family did was normal (with the odd transgression of smoking some cannabis).

“  And raised by travelling people (the Guettas) -- who are known to be notoriously deceitful and anti-authoritarian -- but wonder if her biological parents have traits making them susceptible to disorders, mental illness, criminality, and so on?”

You do know that statement is racist don’t you?

[faithlilly]

It's a fair point that deserves discussion especially as you seem to know everything about Dr L, and have introduced endless speculation about insignificant issues.
I'm very down to earth as Major Tom will confirm.

It’s not a fair point, it’s a racist trope.

Several posters showing their true colours tonight.

[Chris_Halkides]

Easily paid for by cash which would have no record of the buyer. Easily bought in Edinburgh, on holiday up north, anywhere they may have been over the years previously. As it stands the evidence is that he clearly did wear that army style jacket pre murder, never recovered.

Why go all the way to Edinburgh?  Also there was a receipt for the parka bought after the murder. 

[Kenmair]

It’s not a fair point, it’s a racist trope.

Several posters showing their true colours tonight.

How is it racist more than:
Scot's are mean (especially Aberdonians)
Irish like a drink.
Welsh are whatever...
English are hooligans who like to invade other countries and impose their values.

The travelling community are notorious for being anti-authority and often dishonest, which sums up CM & SL. Not sure what your point is.

[faithlilly]

How is it racist more than:
Scot's are mean (especially Aberdonians)
Irish like a drink.
Welsh are whatever...
English are hooligans who like to invade other countries and impose their values.

The travelling community are notorious for being anti-authority and often dishonest, which sums up CM & SL. Not sure what your point is.

It isn’t more racist but it is racist but if you’re prepared to appear a rather simpleminded racist don’t let me stop you.

[Kenmair]

It isn’t more racist but it is racist but if you’re prepared to appear a rather simpleminded racist don’t let me stop you.

The fact you've ignored 99% of the recent posts suggests you are as much as troll than interested in anything else as there's nothing you can debate without resorting to "protected characteristics".

The only people who have have defended LM 100% are CM & SL - both from similar backgrounds.

[Joe Blogs]

The fact you've ignored 99% of the recent posts suggests you are as much as troll than interested in anything else as there's nothing you can debate without resorting to "protected characteristics".

The only people who have have defended LM 100% are CM & SL - both from similar backgrounds.

I would say Scott Forbes is also 100% sure that LM is innocent, Ken.

[Parky41]

Why go all the way to Edinburgh?  Also there was a receipt for the parka bought after the murder.

"Why go all the way to Edinburgh?" Surely not a serious question Chris. I'll let you refresh yourself on some geography and places where he got his tattoo amongst other things. A place he hung out with his mates, his girlfriend also shortly before the murder. Their main town with many suburbs, one of which the Mitchells stayed in. The Capital, teaming with all sorts of shops, namely ones that sold army surplus and the likes.

Tell me Chris, who was there when they arrived home from their shopping trip, checking purchases and receipts? All rather different from one purchased in whatever time frame pre the murder. As stated, something easily gotten rid of in a fire (if still had the receipt for an older purchase) and so much more besides.

[faithlilly]

The fact you've ignored 99% of the recent posts suggests you are as much as troll than interested in anything else as there's nothing you can debate without resorting to "protected characteristics".

The only people who have have defended LM 100% are CM & SL - both from similar backgrounds.

I haven’t ignored recent posts. I’ve simply got tired of debunking the lies.

Racism, however, is something that sticks very much in my craw. Debate the facts by all means but if you chose to resort to nasty, racist tropes to win the argument then be prepared to be called out on them.

It is interesting that you speak so disparaging of Corrine who ran a family business while not applying the same standards to the Jones family who were, by any measure, feckless and rather dysfunctional.

I have defended Luke for well over 15 years but do not come from a similar background to either Corrine or Dr Lean.
Did your psychology 101 course cover that eventuality?