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Offline adam

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2025, 12:07:39 PM »
Well as I said Adam,if it was the rifle barrel why weren't the three marks identical instead of various shapes and sizes? Even John and Puglove pointed this out years ago!
No no, the Aga evidence holds up, no question!

Believe each burn would be less profound the colder the burning instrument got. It would not stay hot for long.

Would also depend on how hard each burn was pressed onto Nevill's skin.

Offline adam

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2025, 12:10:04 PM »
Why three burns and then a further 'four' shots, Adam?
That doesn't make much sense to me!

The burns could have been at any time between shots 5-8. Or after shot 8. 

Either in quick succession or individually.

Offline Joe Blogs

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2025, 01:30:53 PM »
The burns could have been at any time between shots 5-8. Or after shot 8. 

Either in quick succession or individually.
Ha ha! Maybe you should delete that post, Adam!

Offline Joe Blogs

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2025, 01:33:01 PM »
Believe each burn would be less profound the colder the burning instrument got. It would not stay hot for long.

Would also depend on how hard each burn was pressed onto Nevill's skin.
Maybe, Adam,maybe! But they would still all be the same size and shape as pictured in Boyces 2012 experiment, or whenever it was!

Offline Joe Blogs

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2025, 07:18:40 PM »

Without knowing if it was on, how is such possible? It might equally be said that they were freezer burns. Ice burns in the same way as heat.
Does your Aga have a temperature guage, April?
I think the CT are claiming you can see the Bamber one in the crime scene photos!

Offline Joe Blogs

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2025, 07:21:55 PM »
Thought the CT are saying the 'what' is the aga caused the burns.
Yes, that is what I said Adam.
I fully agree that the Aga caused the burns, but not between 3,30-7.35!
I think they were caused sometime between 12.00 midnight-3.00!

Offline APRIL

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2025, 07:41:10 PM »
Does your Aga have a temperature guage, April?
I think the CT are claiming you can see the Bamber one in the crime scene photos!


I don't know one which doesn't, Snow! They're more thermometers than temperature guages because the temperature can't be controlled from them. If the Bamber's was in the position as ours -and being the same model, I've no reason to think otherwise- of course it would have been visible in CS pictures. Quite whether it's readable is another question! If you've ever seen the old fashioned thermometers nurses used, you'll know what I'm talking about! Magnifying glasses help!!

Offline Joe Blogs

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #37 on: June 20, 2025, 08:10:22 PM »

I don't know one which doesn't, Snow! They're more thermometers than temperature guages because the temperature can't be controlled from them. If the Bamber's was in the position as ours -and being the same model, I've no reason to think otherwise- of course it would have been visible in CS pictures. Quite whether it's readable is another question! If you've ever seen the old fashioned thermometers nurses used, you'll know what I'm talking about! Magnifying glasses help!!
I'll take a look at the photos then, April!
Its Joe remember! 8(0(*

Offline APRIL

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #38 on: June 20, 2025, 08:36:31 PM »
I'll take a look at the photos then, April!
Its Joe remember! 8(0(*


Ooops! Sorry for the typo, Joe!

Offline APRIL

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #39 on: June 20, 2025, 08:37:26 PM »
I'll take a look at the photos then, April!
Its Joe remember! 8(0(*

Offline adam

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #40 on: June 21, 2025, 05:13:19 AM »
Bamber did have the time to burn Nevill's back.

He only had time restrictions after calling his cottage from WHF. If he did this. The long gap between him ringing Julie and the police shows he was in no rush.

The judge mentioned Sheila's 38 minute time restriction to get everything done from 3.10am. Some supporters say Nevill was speaking to the police from 3.26am - 3.36am which would have given Sheila 12 minutes. So very limited time to fit in burning Nevill's back.

Offline Joe Blogs

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #41 on: June 21, 2025, 11:47:14 AM »
Bamber did have the time to burn Nevill's back.

He only had time restrictions after calling his cottage from WHF. If he did this. The long gap between him ringing Julie and the police shows he was in no rush.

The judge mentioned Sheila's 38 minute time restriction to get everything done from 3.10am. Some supporters say Nevill was speaking to the police from 3.26am - 3.36am which would have given Sheila 12 minutes. So very limited time to fit in burning Nevill's back.
Mostly everything was already done by Sheila between 12.00-3.00 while Nevill was lying against the Aga, Adam!
No one needed 'any' time to burn Nevills back, it happened accidentally!

Offline APRIL

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #42 on: June 21, 2025, 12:58:22 PM »
Mostly everything was already done by Sheila between 12.00-3.00 while Nevill was lying against the Aga, Adam!
No one needed 'any' time to burn Nevills back, it happened accidentally!


It's all very well to keep posting tiny little snippets of theories, but none of them holds water until you can produce feasible and viable back stories.

So, according to you, we have Nevill accidentally falling in a convenient enough position, against the Aga, so deeply unconscious already that he fails to move away from a heat we don't even have evidence of, but managing to rise with enough clarity of mind to phone JB and police, presumably stopping to look up their number, just like his son, but not phoning 999?

Offline adam

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #43 on: June 21, 2025, 01:17:49 PM »
Mostly everything was already done by Sheila between 12.00-3.00 while Nevill was lying against the Aga, Adam!
No one needed 'any' time to burn Nevills back, it happened accidentally!

Oh yes, Sheila did everything while Nevill was knocked out between 12.00pm & 3.00am.

Offline Joe Blogs

Re: Any news on JB's 2025 CCRC application?
« Reply #44 on: June 21, 2025, 01:38:13 PM »

It's all very well to keep posting tiny little snippets of theories, but none of them holds water until you can produce feasible and viable back stories.

So, according to you, we have Nevill accidentally falling in a convenient enough position, against the Aga, so deeply unconscious already that he fails to move away from a heat we don't even have evidence of, but managing to rise with enough clarity of mind to phone JB and police, presumably stopping to look up their number, just like his son, but not phoning 999?
I believe this is the only theory that fits unless you believe that the police moved Nevill from the Aga to the scuttle after entering the Whitehouse, April!
Someone with a fractured skull would be unaware they were being slowly burned by the Aga, and their actions upon recovering conciousness would be muddled and unpredictable.