Author Topic: How did they fail to notice Madeleine's open window ?  (Read 17940 times)

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icabodcrane

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How did they fail to notice Madeleine's open window ?
« on: April 21, 2013, 10:48:44 PM »
I'm assuming,  since the McCann's apartment was on the end, that all the others had to pass the McCann children's bedroom window on their way to and from their own apartments  ...  is that correct ?

The McCanns claim that Jane Tanner saw the abductor make off with Madeleine at 9.15pm  ...  so at that time the shutters on their children's bedroom was already fully raised, and the window wide open

Subsequently,  one or other of the McCann's friends passed that open window 7 times  ...  7 times !

How can it be that none of them noticed it ?






amaraltheofficeboy

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Re: How did they fail to notice Madeleine's open window ?
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2013, 10:52:15 PM »
no - there was a car park in between the path they took and the bedroom window. Also bushes and low lighting.

amaraltheofficeboy

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Re: How did they fail to notice Madeleine's open window ?
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2013, 10:53:42 PM »
In fact it is correct to say that NOBODY walked past the bedroom window, as in directly outside it.

amaraltheofficeboy

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Re: How did they fail to notice Madeleine's open window ?
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2013, 11:00:15 PM »
but you knew that the path directly in front of the window only goes to apt 5A and was not a thoroughfare didn't you?

Otherwise you wouldn't have come up with the strange number 7.

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Re: How did they fail to notice Madeleine's open window ?
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2013, 11:02:22 PM »
The bedroom window can be seen clearly as you walk across the car park and as we are lead to believe there was a table lamp on in the lounge area and the bedroom door and shutters were open then the light from that would have illuminated the window enough to draw your eye to it.
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amaraltheofficeboy

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Re: How did they fail to notice Madeleine's open window ?
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2013, 11:04:29 PM »
The bedroom window can be seen clearly as you walk across the car park and as we are lead to believe there was a table lamp on in the lounge area and the bedroom door and shutters were open then the light from that would have illuminated the window enough to draw your eye to it.

what a fascinating observation - who led you to believe there was a lit lamp?

Oh no - I shouldn't have asked that!

amaraltheofficeboy

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Re: How did they fail to notice Madeleine's open window ?
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2013, 11:05:05 PM »
I should have just said "cite"

icabodcrane

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Re: How did they fail to notice Madeleine's open window ?
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2013, 11:07:27 PM »
but you knew that the path directly in front of the window only goes to apt 5A and was not a thoroughfare didn't you?

Otherwise you wouldn't have come up with the strange number 7.

No I didn't ...  I thought the others walked past the McCanns window on the way to or from their own apartments,  and that was when they did their 'listening checks'  for the McCanns

I didn't realise that they went out of their way to check on the McCann children  (  especially given that the McCanns, themselves,  didn't check on anyone's children but their own )

amaraltheofficeboy

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Re: How did they fail to notice Madeleine's open window ?
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2013, 11:08:08 PM »
incidentally icabodcrane, I didn't go through the 181 posts on your other window thread to see if this has been covered.

amaraltheofficeboy

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Re: How did they fail to notice Madeleine's open window ?
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2013, 11:08:58 PM »
but you knew that the path directly in front of the window only goes to apt 5A and was not a thoroughfare didn't you?

Otherwise you wouldn't have come up with the strange number 7.

No I didn't ...  I thought the others walked past the McCanns window on the way to or from their own apartments,  and that was when they did their 'listening checks'  for the McCanns

I didn't realise that they went out of their way to check on the McCann children  (  especially given that the McCanns, themselves,  didn't check on anyone's children but their own )

well you thought wrong didn't you

icabodcrane

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Re: How did they fail to notice Madeleine's open window ?
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2013, 11:11:36 PM »
incidentally icabodcrane, I didn't go through the 181 posts on your other window thread to see if this has been covered.

oh you should ...  it's an excellent thread

amaraltheofficeboy

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Re: How did they fail to notice Madeleine's open window ?
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2013, 11:13:20 PM »
maybe some other time, but if it is so good - why the need for another thread?

Offline Carana

Re: How did they fail to notice Madeleine's open window ?
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2013, 11:14:38 PM »
I'm assuming,  since the McCann's apartment was on the end, that all the others had to pass the McCann children's bedroom window on their way to and from their own apartments  ...  is that correct ?

The McCanns claim that Jane Tanner saw the abductor make off with Madeleine at 9.15pm  ...  so at that time the shutters on their children's bedroom was already fully raised, and the window wide open

Subsequently,  one or other of the McCann's friends passed that open window 7 times  ...  7 times !

How can it be that none of them noticed it ?


If this is a serious question, there are quite a few photos on the subject. Many are hosted on Pamalam's site. Beware of photos taken post-disappearance as the lighting was improved afterwards.

amaraltheofficeboy

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Re: How did they fail to notice Madeleine's open window ?
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2013, 11:16:53 PM »
Unfortunately it shows a very basic misunderstanding of the layout

Redblossom

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Re: How did they fail to notice Madeleine's open window ?
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2013, 11:23:48 PM »
I'm assuming,  since the McCann's apartment was on the end, that all the others had to pass the McCann children's bedroom window on their way to and from their own apartments  ...  is that correct ?

The McCanns claim that Jane Tanner saw the abductor make off with Madeleine at 9.15pm  ...  so at that time the shutters on their children's bedroom was already fully raised, and the window wide open

Subsequently,  one or other of the McCann's friends passed that open window 7 times  ...  7 times !

How can it be that none of them noticed it ?

If you look at the 2nd 3rd and 4th  photos on this page it shows how one would probably not notice unless they actually looked. The others did not have a front door like flat 5a on that path they would have gone straight into the communal entrance right opposite the central opening to the car park.

http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic179-10.html
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