Criminal profiler Lee Rainbow's Report and how it was used in Court

[AnneGuedes]

LR's quote didn't mention cadaver scent, anyhow, which it this thread's subject.
The fact Isabel Duarte did'nt scream speaks volumes, because she vociferates a lot when she feels like and this is frightening !

Anne, do lawyers usually scream, when the other one is closing arguments ?

If Cabrita had still been Amarals lawyer and had not come back to this subject, I believe Isabel Duarte may well have forced him to.

DCI, I bet Isabel Duarte, who showed she knew the screaming art (her pale eyes throwing flames), would have vehemently protested if her colleague had invented Mr Rainbow's quote. As you know, Portugal hasn't adopted Common Law, which means that it is not the best story that wins. Accusation lawyers are aware of what's in the defence lawyers files and reciprocally.
Please don't think I criticize Common Law.

[John]

I have given this topic its own thread as requested.

[faithlilly]

@ Anne

I'd be really interested to know what was ACTUALLY read out in court from Lee Rainbow's report.

[Angelo222]

@ Anne

I'd be really interested to know what was ACTUALLY read out in court from Lee Rainbow's report.

The way I see it you have two problems here.  Firstly the Report was written by Lee Rainbow in English and translated into Portuguese for the benefit of the court.  Then whatever was stated in court was translated back into English by the court reporter.  Do you realise how much of the original can be lost in doing so. Secondly, what we have basically is a carte blanche for any prosecutor to put any spin on it and believe you me they do and at every opportunity.

I therefore have grave concerns that what started out as a reasonable report ended up as something entirely different in an attempt to damage the McCanns.

[muratfan]

In all missing child cases, the parents are suspects to start off with, especially if they are missing from the home, or nearby the home. It is standard police procedure, they have to do that to ensure all avenues are explored and eliminated

[icabodcrane]

@ Anne

I'd be really interested to know what was ACTUALLY read out in court from Lee Rainbow's report.

The way I see it you have two problems here.  Firstly the Report was written by Lee Rainbow in English and translated into Portuguese for the benefit of the court.  Then whatever was stated in court was translated back into English by the court reporter.  Do you realise how much of the original can be lost in doing so. Secondly, what we have basically is a carte blanche for any prosecutor to put any spin on it and believe you me they do and at every opportunity.

I therefore have grave concerns that what started out as a reasonable report ended up as something entirely different in an attempt to damage the McCanns.

Wouldn't you expect the McCanns to have rectified the damage if that had been the case though

Even in her book, which she says is her version of the truth, Kate talks about the trial, but makes no mention of any mistranslated or erroneous statements made

She does not even suggest that Ricardo Paiva was lying when he told the court that she had phoned him one night to tell him she had had a bad dream  (  a night when Gerry was away from Portugal )  ...  although Gerry himself said that it was untrue, outside the courtroom  (  where he appeared very flustered )  before leaving Portugal, and Kate, with a full day of the trial yet to go 

[ferryman]

I have given this topic its own thread as requested.

Thank you, John

[ferryman]

@ Anne

I'd be really interested to know what was ACTUALLY read out in court from Lee Rainbow's report.

I'd be much more interested to know what was read out and what was in Lee Rainbow's report.

In fact, didn't The Express tell us?

[icabodcrane]

@ Anne

I'd be really interested to know what was ACTUALLY read out in court from Lee Rainbow's report.

I'd be much more interested to know what was read out and what was in Lee Rainbow's report.

In fact, didn't The Express tell us?

I don't think a one paragraph summing up by a tabloid newspaper of a thirty page police report quite cuts the mustard,  ferryman

[ferryman]

@ Anne

I'd be really interested to know what was ACTUALLY read out in court from Lee Rainbow's report.

I'd be much more interested to know what was read out and what was in Lee Rainbow's report.

In fact, didn't The Express tell us?

I don't think a one paragraph summing up by a tabloid newspaper of a thirty page police report quite cuts the mustard,  ferryman

So you think that, when he wrote in his summary (sic)

“It should be stressed that there is no evidence to directly support an involvement of the family, yet given the absence of decisive evidence to prove the contrary, such a scenario has to be explored.” At court last week, Mr Amaral’s lawyer, Antonio Cabrita, read out a section of 37-year-old Mr Rainbow’s report which said: “The family is a lead that should be followed.”

He might have written something somewhere else that contradicted that?

Why is that?

[icabodcrane]

@ Anne

I'd be really interested to know what was ACTUALLY read out in court from Lee Rainbow's report.

I'd be much more interested to know what was read out and what was in Lee Rainbow's report.

In fact, didn't The Express tell us?

I don't think a one paragraph summing up by a tabloid newspaper of a thirty page police report quite cuts the mustard,  ferryman

So you think that, when he wrote in his summary (sic)

“It should be stressed that there is no evidence to directly support an involvement of the family, yet given the absence of decisive evidence to prove the contrary, such a scenario has to be explored.” At court last week, Mr Amaral’s lawyer, Antonio Cabrita, read out a section of 37-year-old Mr Rainbow’s report which said: “The family is a lead that should be followed.”

He might have written something somewhere else that contradicted that?

Why is that?

Because what he wrote does not constitute  'direct evidence'

Inconsistancies in Gerry McCann's statements,  whilst not being  'direct evidence'  of his involvement in his child's disappearance,  were of enough concern to Rainbow that he advised the parents involvement should be investigated with the same vigour as that of abduction

   ...  you see,  Rainbow was not suggesting that the parents' possible involvement should be investigated because that was normal procedure .... he was advising that their possible involvement should be investigated as a direct consequence of inconsistancies in Gerry's statements

[ferryman]

...  you see,  Rainbow was not suggesting that the parents' possible involvement should be investigated because that was normal procedure .... he was advising that their possible involvement should be investigated as a direct consequence of inconsistancies in Gerry's statements

That is a contention with no evidence to support it, and evidence (the verbatim words of Rainbow) to doubt or even refute it.

[Carana]

http://regretsandramblings.com/2011/09/24/the-rainbow-report/