At what time were the police called after Madeleine's disappearance?

[John]

I have heard from various sources - those being newspaper reports largely that the police were first called at 10.14 on the 3rd of May after Madeleine disappeared. I've also heard contradictory reports that the Portuguese police say the first call they received was at 10.40.

So what time were the police in fact called that night? Any actual evidence would be appreciated although I suspect this is another area of huge uncertainty.

Several people claimed to have phoned the police but the local GNR call records reveal that the first one was received at 10.40pm.  There is always the possibility that a call was made by a member of OC staff to a known police mobile number and this was not included within the files.

[G-Unit]

Several people claimed to have phoned the police but the local GNR call records reveal that the first one was received at 10.40pm.  There is always the possibility that a call was made by a member of OC staff to a known police mobile number and this was not included within the files.

Someone could have used a mobile phone to phone them, but no-one phoned using the Ocean Club land line. It's cut off the times, but the full page is here;
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[mercury]

I have heard from various sources - those being newspaper reports largely that the police were first called at 10.14 on the 3rd of May after Madeleine disappeared. I've also heard contradictory reports that the Portuguese police say the first call they received was at 10.40.

So what time were the police in fact called that night? Any actual evidence would be appreciated although I suspect this is another area of huge uncertainty.

10.14 is a deliberate or accidental inversal of the time the first police call was logged, ie 10.41

There simply isn't any evidence in existence that police were called before then, which does, understandably raise many questions

[mercury]

Several people claimed to have phoned the police but the local GNR call records reveal that the first one was received at 10.40pm.  There is always the possibility that a call was made by a member of OC staff to a known police mobile number and this was not included within the files.

Why would police not include an earlier phone call in the files, this is getting a bit silly tbh

[lordpookles]

You can't rule out a call on a mobile though imo. Easiest thing in the world to use your personal mobile especially for convenience even sheer laziness. The phone record here I assume is simply a record of the ocean club reception phone data, so of course a call on a mobile or different phone would not be on there. I was just interested in this as I've seen it written several times that the first phone call to police was at 10.14. Is interesting that 10.14 is 10.41 reversed. Where did the time 10.14 originate from? I can't see that info anywhere... perhaps a media invention? 

[G-Unit]

Perhaps 10.14 was in the press because that's near to the 'official' time that the group said they asked reception to phone. The record I provided covers all of the Ocean Club including the Tapas, Millennium, etc. I can't imagine the receptionist using his mobile for company business, although he says he called the police earlier than the record shows. Although John Hill had a mobile phone he went to reception and asked the receptionist to telephone the police at around 10.40pm, I think.

[mercury]

You can't rule out a call on a mobile though imo. Easiest thing in the world to use your personal mobile especially for convenience even sheer laziness. The phone record here I assume is simply a record of the ocean club reception phone data, so of course a call on a mobile or different phone would not be on there. I was just interested in this as I've seen it written several times that the first phone call to police was at 10.14. Is interesting that 10.14 is 10.41 reversed. Where did the time 10.14 originate from? I can't see that info anywhere... perhaps a media invention?

Invention or accident as I already posted.Probably invention IMO

IF someone had called police on their mobile, dont you thnk it might be recorded gossipped about or spilt in the papers?
Only a conspiracy theorist could explain that police were called but they never said so

[lordpookles]

Oh i see. Confusing.

So, rereading this, is the record provided of phone calls that night to the local police or police emergency number like 999? Is the record complete and does it include all phone calls that night to the police or just Ocean Club, Millennium etc?

I could possibly see someone using their mobile tbh. People don't always stick to company guidelines and Portugal is a fairly chilled place. Local phone calls are practically free nowadays.

[mercury]

first you have to answer why police would lie about something which can be checked easily

second, you have to question why people state police WERE called without any evidence at all to back up their claims

[lordpookles]

Do these policeman have to be lying? These policeman could have just been made aware of the situation from the police call center at that time....

[mercury]

Do these policeman have to be lying? These policeman could have just been made aware of the situation from the police call center at that time....

everythng is  logged and printed in the PJ files
an action of such importance would be included IMO

[pegasus]

Oh i see. Confusing.

So, rereading this, is the record provided of phone calls that night to the local police or police emergency number like 999? Is the record complete and does it include all phone calls that night to the police or just Ocean Club, Millennium etc?

I could possibly see someone using their mobile tbh. People don't always stick to company guidelines and Portugal is a fairly chilled place. Local phone calls are practically free nowadays.

Yes the records of the Lagos GNR station landline are in the files and show all incoming calls, from landlines and mobiles, from everyone.

[mercury]

Yes the records of the Lagos GNR station landline are in the files and show all incoming calls, from landlines and mobiles, from everyone.

THAT surely settles that then? no one called the police until 10 41

[pegasus]

THAT surely settles that then? no one called the police until 10 41

Yes 10:41pm was the first call to police (unless Portugal Telecom's computer had its clock set wrong which is unlikely).

[mercury]

Yes 10:41pm was the first call to police (unless Portugal Telecom's computer had its clock set wrong which is unlikely).

thats why i dont understand the lies