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icabodcrane

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What would a forensic examination of the phone traffic that night reveal ?

Does it mean that Scotland Yard would be able to see all calls that were made in the resort that night  ...  when they were made, from who's phones, and to whom the calls were made ?


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Re: Scotland Yard are examining phone traffic in PDL on May 3 2007
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2013, 05:59:31 PM »
What would a forensic examination of the phone traffic that night reveal ?

Does it mean that Scotland Yard would be able to see all calls that were made in the resort that night  ...  when they were made, from who's phones, and to whom the calls were made ?

I had thought that the PJ had done quite a good job on the phone analysis.

I'm not sure I've found all the files on this, so far this seems to be the main one:
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/OUSTROS_APENSOS_13_TEL.htm

But it's an analysis of the T9 calls / pings.

There must be more than that somewhere.

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Re: Scotland Yard are examining phone traffic in PDL on May 3 2007
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2013, 06:16:50 PM »
What would a forensic examination of the phone traffic that night reveal ?

Does it mean that Scotland Yard would be able to see all calls that were made in the resort that night  ...  when they were made, from who's phones, and to whom the calls were made ?

I would answer - yes.

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Re: Scotland Yard are examining phone traffic in PDL on May 3 2007
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2013, 06:21:32 PM »
What would a forensic examination of the phone traffic that night reveal ?
Does it mean that Scotland Yard would be able to see all calls that were made in the resort that night  ...  when they were made, from who's phones, and to whom the calls were made ?
I would answer - yes.
Good!
I do hope that includes all PJ and GNR calls, especially Amarals, calls  ?>)()<
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Re: Scotland Yard are examining phone traffic in PDL on May 3 2007
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2013, 06:24:46 PM »
What would a forensic examination of the phone traffic that night reveal ?

Does it mean that Scotland Yard would be able to see all calls that were made in the resort that night  ...  when they were made, from who's phones, and to whom the calls were made ?

I had thought that the PJ had done quite a good job on the phone analysis.

I'm not sure I've found all the files on this, so far this seems to be the main one:
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/OUSTROS_APENSOS_13_TEL.htm

But it's an analysis of the T9 calls / pings.

There must be more than that somewhere.

Thanks carana

I agree, that looks like a very thorough examination of the tapas group's phone details

Perhaps Scotland Yard are examining phone traffic that night  in general, and are looking at  phone  details of people   other  than the Mccanns and their friends  ...  which can't be a bad thing

amaraltheofficeboy

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Re: Scotland Yard are examining phone traffic in PDL on May 3 2007
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2013, 06:33:02 PM »
What would a forensic examination of the phone traffic that night reveal ?
Does it mean that Scotland Yard would be able to see all calls that were made in the resort that night  ...  when they were made, from who's phones, and to whom the calls were made ?
I would answer - yes.
Good!
I do hope that includes all PJ and GNR calls, especially Amarals, calls  ?>)()<

yes and maybe to emergency services from mobiles

amaraltheofficeboy

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Re: Scotland Yard are examining phone traffic in PDL on May 3 2007
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2013, 06:34:08 PM »
oh it certainly won't be a bad thing to examine all mobile phone calls around that time - in fact it may be quite damning for some people

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Re: Scotland Yard are examining phone traffic in PDL on May 3 2007
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2013, 06:45:08 PM »
There is a bit more in the files - the OC logs, recording the calls to the GNR, and various bits relating to Murat.

But I was under the impression that all calls in the vicinity had been analysed. Now I have a doubt.

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Re: Scotland Yard are examining phone traffic in PDL on May 3 2007
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2013, 06:52:06 PM »
Murat and/or Malinka calling G or K that night (or vice versa)

now that would be a smoking gun

right there

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Re: Scotland Yard are examining phone traffic in PDL on May 3 2007
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2013, 06:58:51 PM »
Murat and/or Malinka calling G or K that night (or vice versa)

now that would be a smoking gun

right there


I think the PJ might have noticed if that had been the case...


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Re: Scotland Yard are examining phone traffic in PDL on May 3 2007
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2013, 07:01:04 PM »
Murat and/or Malinka calling G or K that night (or vice versa)

now that would be a smoking gun

right there


I think the PJ might have noticed if that had been the case...

Noticed or reacted upon?

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Re: Scotland Yard are examining phone traffic in PDL on May 3 2007
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2013, 07:13:18 PM »
Murat and/or Malinka calling G or K that night (or vice versa)

now that would be a smoking gun

right there


I think the PJ might have noticed if that had been the case...

Noticed or reacted upon?

Apparently there wasn't any.

But why wouldn't they have sought clarification if there had been contact on that night?


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Re: Scotland Yard are examining phone traffic in PDL on May 3 2007
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2013, 07:19:29 PM »
Murat and/or Malinka calling G or K that night (or vice versa)

now that would be a smoking gun

right there


I think the PJ might have noticed if that had been the case...

Noticed or reacted upon?

Apparently there wasn't any.

But why wouldn't they have sought clarification if there had been contact on that night?

correct me if I'm wrong

Murat was in the employ of the PJ following the disappearance

His mother set up a stall on the beach the day or two after

for folks who did not want to speak to the cops

Do these two facts compute?

In any way?

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Re: Scotland Yard are examining phone traffic in PDL on May 3 2007
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2013, 08:03:37 PM »
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Murat was in the employ of the PJ following the disappearance

Well he pushed himself, as a translator, if you call that being in the employ of the PJ.

Now something just occurred to me.

Amaral, asked a GNR, who Murat was.  So where was Amaral, when Murat was at the station, translating, from the 4th May? 
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Re: Scotland Yard are examining phone traffic in PDL on May 3 2007
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2013, 09:34:47 PM »
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Murat was in the employ of the PJ following the disappearance

Well he pushed himself, as a translator, if you call that being in the employ of the PJ.

Now something just occurred to me.

Amaral, asked a GNR, who Murat was.  So where was Amaral, when Murat was at the station, translating, from the 4th May?

Please dont derail this thread into another anti Amaral lynch thread, start your own for that


OP, I do believe every single phone transaction can be accessed by police