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Offline Luz

Re: Was Amaral somewhat of a hypocrite in condemming the McCanns?
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2013, 04:38:21 PM »
We know that Amaral likes his tipple and has often been described as drunk.  It has also been claimed by his wife that he drives often while intoxicated.  As he appeared to have a child under his care do members feel he is or was a responsible parent?  Was he not just a little bit hypocritical in blaming the McCanns for the very same thing for which he himself was guilty?

Dear John,

Mr. Amaral never left her daughters alone and certainly never consumed alcohol at the rate that your dear Tapas did while in that fatidic holiday. Your OP is baseless and doesn't contribute to the discussion about the disappearance of Madeleine.

Offline John

Re: Was Amaral somewhat of a hypocrite in condemming the McCanns?
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2013, 04:58:57 PM »
Do you have any documents to support your allegations?!

Yeah, I thought so. You are just spitting venom...

To your information, it's not the PJ that "blames" people - their job is to investigate and if there is a need to interrogate them in a way where their answers may result incriminating, the law determinates that they are given the "arguido" status (which is not very profitable to the investigation since they gain rights that allow them to avoid compromising questions) - and if Amaral found them less than straight in their behavior, he certainly has had a good cause for it.

Until today the McCann still care only about themselves and none about their missing child.

Well yes, his wife's letter of complaint lodged with the PJ hierarchy and referred to in Court.  Lets face it, Amaral's method of investigating crime calls for a plastic bag and a cardboard towel holder.

And I never claimed he left his daughter alone FYI.

« Last Edit: June 07, 2013, 05:02:58 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Luz

Re: Was Amaral somewhat of a hypocrite in condemming the McCanns?
« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2013, 05:08:17 PM »
Well yes, his wife's letter of complaint lodged with the PJ hierarchy and referred to in Court.  Lets face it, Amaral's method of investigating crime calls for a plastic bag and a cardboard towel holder.

And I never claimed he left his daughter alone FYI.



You are misinformed. That letter was a forgery opportunely denied by his wife.
And as for Amaral's methods of investigation, they were very much appreciated since he was one of the best in his department. It was him that asked for his resignation and not the contrary as the pro-McCann and Uk press like to put it.

Offline Luz

Re: Was Amaral somewhat of a hypocrite in condemming the McCanns?
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2013, 05:16:22 PM »
In my opinion it's the McCann, their friends and their defenders that are hypocrite.
They should be the ones that had the searching about Madeleine's fate as their primary goal, instead they waste their energy on PR campaigns exalting the parents and dissing the portuguese authorities. Nobody cares about the child, it's as if she was a collateral damage. Shame on you.

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Re: Was Amaral somewhat of a hypocrite in condemming the McCanns?
« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2013, 05:20:04 PM »
Dear John,

Mr. Amaral never left her daughters alone and certainly never consumed alcohol at the rate that your dear Tapas did while in that fatidic holiday. Your OP is baseless and doesn't contribute to the discussion about the disappearance of Madeleine.

I would hope not.

Unlike the McCanns Amaral was driving.

And in (I think) most of Europe, the drink drive limit is half England's

Offline John

Re: Was Amaral somewhat of a hypocrite in condemming the McCanns?
« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2013, 05:27:40 PM »
You are misinformed. That letter was a forgery opportunely denied by his wife.
And as for Amaral's methods of investigation, they were very much appreciated since he was one of the best in his department. It was him that asked for his resignation and not the contrary as the pro-McCann and Uk press like to put it.

Seems you under the misapprehension that a convicted criminal like Amaral could remain as a police officer?  I'm afraid it was a choice of jump or be kicked out Luz. 
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline TTSOFAFM

Re: Was Amaral somewhat of a hypocrite in condemming the McCanns?
« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2013, 05:31:19 PM »
You are misinformed. That letter was a forgery opportunely denied by his wife.
And as for Amaral's methods of investigation, they were very much appreciated since he was one of the best in his department. It was him that asked for his resignation and not the contrary as the pro-McCann and Uk press like to put it.
No Luz, John is not misinformed the letter was accepted as evidence, it was authenticated as per this thread

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1665.msg50940#msg50940

If anybody is not telling the whole truth it would be those who keep saying it is a forgery.
« Last Edit: June 07, 2013, 05:33:31 PM by TTSOFAFM »

Offline John

Re: Was Amaral somewhat of a hypocrite in condemming the McCanns?
« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2013, 06:30:34 PM »
Luz, I would like to ask you a simple question so I would be obliged if you would give me a straight and truthful answer.

Do you honestly believe that Amaral would have been allowed to remain in post as a police officer given his conviction?

A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

AnneGuedes

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Re: Was Amaral somewhat of a hypocrite in condemming the McCanns?
« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2013, 06:39:26 PM »
No Luz, John is not misinformed the letter was accepted as evidence, it was authenticated as per this thread

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1665.msg50940#msg50940

If anybody is not telling the whole truth it would be those who keep saying it is a forgery.
A letter presented by MAC, the one who suddenly resolved to frame GA using LS, was discarded by the judge as being written 3 years after the facts.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Was Amaral somewhat of a hypocrite in condemming the McCanns?
« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2013, 12:26:33 AM »
Rebelo didn't follow the same thesis.  He said that making The McCanns Arguidos was hasty.  And then set about clearing up the mess that Amaral left behind.

It was Ribeiro who said making the McCanns arguidos had been hasty, not Rebelo and if Rebelo hadn't suspected that the McCanns and their friends weren't telling the truth why did he try, by every means possible, to bring them back to Portugal for a reconstruction ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline sadie

Re: Was Amaral somewhat of a hypocrite in condemming the McCanns?
« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2013, 12:51:11 AM »
It was Ribeiro who said making the McCanns arguidos had been hasty, not Rebelo and if Rebelo hadn't suspected that the McCanns and their friends weren't telling the truth why did he try, by every means possible, to bring them back to Portugal for a reconstruction ?
You are making assumptions there Faith.
Most likely it was nothing to do with whether he was suspicious particularily of them.

I could imagine after what happened to Kate and Gerry, during that awful interrogation, that they might wonder that tho

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Re: Was Amaral somewhat of a hypocrite in condemming the McCanns?
« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2013, 02:24:26 PM »
You are making assumptions there Faith.
Most likely it was nothing to do with whether he was suspicious particularily of them.

I could imagine after what happened to Kate and Gerry, during that awful interrogation, that they might wonder that tho

Ribeiro tells Portugal's Catholic Church-owned Radio Renascenca: "I think there perhaps should have been another assessment before the McCanns were made official suspects. I don't have any doubt about that ... there was a certain hastiness."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-511974/Police-chief-We-quick-make-Gerry-Kate-arguidos.html#ixzz2VcxJINl3

Top Portugal cop Alipio Ribeiro 'sorry' for McCann comment

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/top-portugal-cop-alipio-ribeiro-292328#ixzz2Vd2dIu3H

McCann Case: Statements of Alipio Ribeiro and Reactions

7 February 2008 | Posted by Joana Morais

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/02/mccann-case-statements-of-alipio.html
 
It was Paulo Rebelo, who believed 7 children were together, in the McCann's apartment.

He was head of the criminal investigation department in Lisbon which uncovered the notorious 'Casa Pia' paedophile ring in 2002

http://paulorebelononeglect.blogspot.co.uk/2011/06/children-were-not-alone.html
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Was Amaral somewhat of a hypocrite in condemming the McCanns?
« Reply #27 on: June 08, 2013, 03:32:13 PM »
 Ribeiro's statement could just as well mean that by making the McCanns arguidos it gave them the right not to answer any questions that may incriminate them, a right not bestowed on a simple witnesses.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

AnneGuedes

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Re: Was Amaral somewhat of a hypocrite in condemming the McCanns?
« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2013, 05:31:26 PM »
Ribeiro's statement could just as well mean that by making the McCanns arguidos it gave them the right not to answer any questions that may incriminate them, a right not bestowed on a simple witnesses.
Afterwards he implicitly stated this, the consequence having been the lawyer took advantage of the statute to advise Kate McCann not to answer at all.
In a way, from then on, Madeleine case had definitively become McCann case.