Question:

[ferryman]

In his El Mundo interview, why did Amaral lie when he said:

We talked about death by others, not murder

                                                         ?

[Carana]

In his El Mundo interview, why did Amaral lie when he said:

We talked about death by others, not murder

                                                         ?

Do you have a link to the original El Mundo article, Ferryman?

[ferryman]

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/09/gonalo-amaral-in-el-mundo-gerry-mccann.html

Sic:

Q - What do you think that could have happened that night?

A - Both the British and Portuguese police, and even the prosecutor, who has already changed his mind, thought the same. We talked about death by others, not murder. In the room blood and cadaver odour was found just below a window where a sofa was. The father was talking to a friend just outside that window for a while. The girl did not have a a heavy sleep, that's what the parents said. Perhaps she heard her father and climbed to the sofa bellow the window. But the parents, for the girl not to go out,moved it away from the wall. Madeleine could have fallen.

[Mrs. B]

There are so many lies/misunderstandings in that article, I don't even know where to start....

[Carana]

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/09/gonalo-amaral-in-el-mundo-gerry-mccann.html

Sic:

Q - What do you think that could have happened that night?

A - Both the British and Portuguese police, and even the prosecutor, who has already changed his mind, thought the same. We talked about death by others, not murder. In the room blood and cadaver odour was found just below a window where a sofa was. The father was talking to a friend just outside that window for a while. The girl did not have a a heavy sleep, that's what the parents said. Perhaps she heard her father and climbed to the sofa bellow the window. But the parents, for the girl not to go out,moved it away from the wall. Madeleine could have fallen.

Most of the original article seems to have disappeared or is behind a paywall, so I can't verify what the original phrase was.

[ferryman]

Why do you doubt that the original question was:

What do you think could have happened that night?

[ferryman]

Most of the original article seems to have disappeared or is behind a paywall, so I can't verify what the original phrase was.

El Mundo is not a pay-site so I'm not quite sure where you get the idea from that anything is behind a pay wall?

Besides, it's been translated

Actually, from the site, you may be able to pull out the Portuguese original?

http://www.elmundo.net/poltica//deben-hispanos-dar-el-voto-a-horsford-congresista-xavier-becerra.html#.UbCrkUDFWtk

[Mrs. B]

Not that it matters, but El Mundo is a pay site, if you want to read the article in it's entirety, you need to subscribe.

[ferryman]

Not that it matters, but El Mundo is a pay site, if you want to read the article in it's entirety, you need to subscribe.

Ah OK

Thank you.

I stand corrected.

[Redblossom]

Most of the original article seems to have disappeared or is behind a paywall, so I can't verify what the original phrase was.

http://mercedessigueaqui.blogspot.co.uk/2008/09/caso-madeleine-mccann-gerry-mccann.html

I believe this is the relevant part, see link for whole article

P.- ¿Qué es lo que cree que pudo haber sucedido aquella noche?

R.- Tanto la Policía portuguesa como la británica, e incluso el fiscal, que ya ha cambiado de opinión, pensamos lo mismo. Hemos hablado de muerte por terceros, no de homicidio. En la habitación se encontró sangre y olor a cadáver justo debajo de una ventana en la que había un sofá. El padre estuvo un rato hablando con un amigo justo fuera de esa ventana. La niña no tenía un sueño muy pesado, eso lo dijeron los padres. Quizás la niña oyó al padre y se subió al sofá debajo de la ventana. Pero los padres, para que la niña no saliera, lo habían retirado de la pared. Madeleine se pudo haber caído.

[ferryman]

http://mercedessigueaqui.blogspot.co.uk/2008/09/caso-madeleine-mccann-gerry-mccann.html

I believe this is the relevant part, see link for whole article

P.- ¿Qué es lo que cree que pudo haber sucedido aquella noche?

R.- Tanto la Policía portuguesa como la británica, e incluso el fiscal, que ya ha cambiado de opinión, pensamos lo mismo. Hemos hablado de muerte por terceros, no de homicidio. En la habitación se encontró sangre y olor a cadáver justo debajo de una ventana en la que había un sofá. El padre estuvo un rato hablando con un amigo justo fuera de esa ventana. La niña no tenía un sueño muy pesado, eso lo dijeron los padres. Quizás la niña oyó al padre y se subió al sofá debajo de la ventana. Pero los padres, para que la niña no saliera, lo habían retirado de la pared. Madeleine se pudo haber caído.

Yes, thanks, seems as if it's been translated accurately ...

[Mrs. B]

Somehow, in Spanish it's even WORSE....

[Redblossom]

Yes, thanks, seems as if it's been translated accurately ...

Can you flesh out your OP a bit? rather too cryptic and with no background info, tia

[ferryman]

Can you flesh out your OP a bit? rather too cryptic and with no background info, tia

There is abundant evidence in the file that they talked about murder.

Mark Harrison offered to write a report considering other scenarios and makes plain that the reports we read consider (sic) solely the possibility of murder.

And all the stuff that was leaked before the files were released about exploration of said murderer dumping Madeleine in 5 minutes were clearly leaks (we now know) from Harrison's report.

Here:


This report considers solely the possibility that Madeleine McCann has been murdered and her body is concealed within the areas previously searched by Police in Zone 1 around Praia Da Luz. Other scenarios or possibilities may on request be considered and be subject of a further report.
 

And here:

In considering the two scenarios that Madeleine McCann has been murdered and her body disposed of by a person on foot or in a vehicle, I have reflected on the areas within zone 1 that have been previously searched or subject to forensic examination.

[Redblossom]

thanks, I dont see how that differs, isnt mr A sayng they were considering murder by others and not parental?