So what are the various scenarios available to us?

[ferryman]

Did she ever say that? To whom?

Jane Tanner is, herself, on record as saying that a car pulled out just as she was about to make the sighting and blocked her view.

She didn't make a sighting.

And the exercise would surely have been rendered nul and void from the point they met Robert Murat en route to the van ...

[Carana]

Red, thanks for posting that sketch which was created by a sketch artist in consultation with Jane Tanner.  It shows without a shred of doubt that the sighting by Tanner and that by the Smiths was of a different man.  There is no way the guy in that sketch could be confused for Gerry McCann.

It's a shame that the PJ didn't organise a sketch of Smith Man.

[sadie]

Red, thanks for posting that sketch which was created by a sketch artist in consultation with Jane Tanner.  It shows without a shred of doubt that the sighting by Tanner and that by the Smiths was of a different man.  There is no way the guy in that sketch could be confused for Gerry McCann.

We all know that it wasn't Gerry Mccann in that sketch.  There is nothing to piont to the Smiths man as being Gerry either except for the way Gerry carried S*** down the aeroplane steps being similar to the way this man carried ?Madeleine.

And we have gone over this thoroughly in earlier threads:  The way that gerry carried S*** down the steps is the way that any caring and responible parent would carry their child down steps.  So the smiths comments mean nothing; it is a common way of carrying.

Additionally, Gerry is well provided with genuine alibis from staff, and others, that he could not have been where the Smiths saw this man at the time of their sighting.

The man with the little girl was NOT Gerry Mccann.  Even Amaral had to give up on that thesis..

[faithlilly]

We all know that it wasn't Gerry Mccann in that sketch.  There is nothing to piont to the Smiths man as being Gerry either except for the way Gerry carried S*** down the aeroplane steps being similar to the way this man carried ?Madeleine.

And we have gone over this thoroughly in earlier threads:  The way that gerry carried S*** down the steps is the way that any caring and responible parent would carry their child down steps.  So the smiths comments mean nothing; it is a common way of carrying.

Additionally, Gerry is well provided with genuine alibis from staff, and others, that he could not have been where the Smiths saw this man at the time of their sighting.

The man with the little girl was NOT Gerry Mccann.  Even Amaral had to give up on that thesis..

The only alibi Gerry has for the time of the Smith sighting is one given to him by his friends. None of the staff mentioned him being in the bar at the time of the sighting and there were no other guests dining.

[Carana]

The only alibi Gerry has for the time of the Smith sighting is one given to him by his friends. None of the staff mentioned him being in the bar at the time of the sighting and there were no other guests dining.

Which "bar"? Did you mean the restaurant?

What makes you think that there were no other guests dining there?

[faithlilly]

Which "bar"? Did you mean the restaurant?

What makes you think that there were no other guests dining there?

At the time of the alert the tapas group were the only diners left in the tapas bar.

[sadie]

At the time of the alert the tapas group were the only diners left in the tapas bar.

I cant find that Faith.  Where did you find that, please?

[Angelo222]

Fact is, neither of the Mccanns are under arrest, evidence, as opposed to online p......s accusations is still absent after 6 years. Libelling them really doesn't hack it, armchair detecting will never solve it. Legally the Mccanns are innocent, factaually so.

It is not necessary to libel anyone in order to scrutinise events.  The McCanns by their own admission failed Madeleine.  The extent to which that failure was down to naivety rather than any wrong doing has so far never been established.

[Angelo222]

There is no need to pretend.

There is no proof of an abductor, unless of course you believe lizards from the second planet orbiting Beta Centuari have taken over the world.

Just provide clear clinical facts with bona fide evidence.

I suppose if you repeat that observation often enough Stephen you might even come to believe it.

[sadie]

I suppose if you repeat that observation often enough Stephen you might even come to believe it.

Hardly anyone else does!

[Angelo222]

The only alibi Gerry has for the time of the Smith sighting is one given to him by his friends. None of the staff mentioned him being in the bar at the time of the sighting and there were no other guests dining.

Wholly wrong...the evidence by several members of staff put Gerry at the table eating his dinner.   Attempting to place him down town carrying Madeleine at 10pm is just preposterous.

[AnneGuedes]

Wholly wrong...the evidence by several members of staff put Gerry at the table eating his dinner.   Attempting to place him down town carrying Madeleine at 10pm is just preposterous.

It hasn't been established at what time the alert was launched. Then, whereas Mr and Mrs McCann went to their flat, the others, as Mrs Payne tells, split searching in the building floors, in the path, in the patios, in the short cut, towards the supermarket, not on the north side of the private car park. Isn't that rational ? Wasn't there time to meet the Smiths? According to Gilet, it would have taken less than 3 minutes !

[AnneGuedes]

Red, thanks for posting that sketch which was created by a sketch artist in consultation with Jane Tanner.  It shows without a shred of doubt that the sighting by Tanner and that by the Smiths was of a different man.  There is no way the guy in that sketch could be confused for Gerry McCann.

Well Mrs McCann thought that Nofaceman and Copperman could one... What do you think ? The hair perhaps ? (sorry I don't know how to reduce this freak image)
Cooperman is even less Mr McCann like.

[Angelo222]

It hasn't been established at what time the alert was launched. Then, whereas Mr and Mrs McCann went to their flat, the others, as Mrs Payne tells, split searching in the building floors, in the path, in the patios, in the short cut, towards the supermarket, not on the north side of the private car park. Isn't that rational ? Wasn't there time to meet the Smiths? According to Gilet, it would have taken less than 3 minutes !

It most certainly has been established when the alert occurred to the nearest few minutes.  There is the evidence of many people who were in or around the club just before it all kicked off.  The resort was quiet at 10pm and a scene of great activity at 10.05pm, does that give you as clue?

And as the Smiths sighting was at 10pm, they saw the mystery man even before it was discovered that Madeleine had gone.

[Angelo222]

The man described by Gail Cooper as seen by her hanging around the Ocean Club Garden resort prior to the abduction could very well have been the same man seen by Jane Tanner the night Madeleine was taken.