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Offline Benice

Re: Why did Mark Warner offer a baby listening service
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2013, 04:05:14 PM »
They could have used one of the staff from the creche as a babysitter, or someone recommended by the complex, so why didn't they ?

In my case it would be because they would be 'strangers' recommended by 'strangers.'    No way would I allow anyone who I'd only just met and hardly spoken to spend hours alone in my home with my children.   And no amount of appropriate 'credentials' would make any difference to me.
   
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

AnneGuedes

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Re: Why did Mark Warner offer a baby listening service
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2013, 04:15:58 PM »
They let Madeleine go sailing with total strangers (the skippers) without being present on the beach and didn't remember it happened on that Thursday morning.

stephen25000

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Re: Why did Mark Warner offer a baby listening service
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2013, 04:20:22 PM »
In my case it would be because they would be 'strangers' recommended by 'strangers.'    No way would I allow anyone who I'd only just met and hardly spoken to spend hours alone in my home with my children.   And no amount of appropriate 'credentials' would make any difference to me.
   

By that logic then very few people would ever have a babysitter because 'they are dangerous and you never know what they might do'.

Then of course, being a 'family holiday', they could have ate and drank at the apartment. Funnily enough other people do that as well.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why did Mark Warner offer a baby listening service
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2013, 04:27:48 PM »
Still diverting. They could have employed someone as a babysitter. No excuses.

Leaving children in an unlocked apartment and with infrequent visits, for several nights whilst socializing, INEXCUSABLE.

So was the baby listening service that was offered by Mark Warner in other resorts also INEXCUSABLE.

stephen25000

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Re: Why did Mark Warner offer a baby listening service
« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2013, 04:36:26 PM »
So was the baby listening service that was offered by Mark Warner in other resorts also INEXCUSABLE.

We aren't talking about anywhere else.

It's what the Mccanns failed to do, i.e. provide CARE for their children, and that they singularly failed to do.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why did Mark Warner offer a baby listening service
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2013, 04:45:08 PM »
We aren't talking about anywhere else.

It's what the Mccanns failed to do, i.e. provide CARE for their children, and that they singularly failed to do.

So you don't criticise other parents who have used a similar service, just the McCanns. you seem to have an obsession.

Offline Carana

Re: Why did Mark Warner offer a baby listening service
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2013, 04:54:11 PM »
Still diverting. They could have employed someone as a babysitter. No excuses.

Leaving children in an unlocked apartment and with infrequent visits, for several nights whilst socializing, INEXCUSABLE.

Everyone makes different decisions. I wouldn't have left kids with a babysitter I didn't know. The creche idea doesn't seem practical with 3 young kids and I'm not sure who found it ideal.

Offline Benice

Re: Why did Mark Warner offer a baby listening service
« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2013, 05:20:42 PM »
By that logic then very few people would ever have a babysitter because 'they are dangerous and you never know what they might do'.

Then of course, being a 'family holiday', they could have ate and drank at the apartment. Funnily enough other people do that as well.

Not so Stephen,  I had two completely trustworthy babysitters.  One was my mum and the other was my best friend - who I'd known since we were children.

Many parents do choose to stay in their apartments or take their children out with them - but thousands of others don't and they sign up for the  Baby Listening Service, or rely on Baby alarms or do their own checking.  Thus it has ever been Stephen - at least as far back as Butlins to my knowledge  and no amount of deflecting by you will alter that fact.   

So when are you going to condemn all the other hundreds of thousands of parents who did and still do exactly the same as the McCanns when on holiday? 

In fact I would have expected you to have been even more critical about the parents who still choose to do this - even though they know what happened to Madeleine.   Personally I find it quite shocking.   






The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

AnneGuedes

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Re: Why did Mark Warner offer a baby listening service
« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2013, 06:38:42 PM »
A child wakes up, calls mum/dad, no answer, feels thirsty, gets out of bed, goes to the kitchen, doesn't see an empty bottle of Sauvignon left close to the door, stumbles and breaks it, tries to pick it up, seizes a thorn of glass, bleeds silently and faints to death.

Offline sadie

Re: Why did Mark Warner offer a baby listening service
« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2013, 06:56:01 PM »
A child wakes up, calls mum/dad, no answer, feels thirsty, gets out of bed, goes to the kitchen, doesn't see an empty bottle of Sauvignon left close to the door, stumbles and breaks it, tries to pick it up, seizes a thorn of glass, bleeds silently and faints to death.

Good imagination Anne

Offline Cudge

Re: Why did Mark Warner offer a baby listening service
« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2013, 11:17:49 PM »
A child wakes up, calls mum/dad, no answer, feels thirsty, gets out of bed, goes to the kitchen, doesn't see an empty bottle of Sauvignon left close to the door, stumbles and breaks it, tries to pick it up, seizes a thorn of glass, bleeds silently and faints to death.

So that's what happened then ?

AnneGuedes

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Re: Why did Mark Warner offer a baby listening service
« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2013, 11:29:08 PM »
So that's what happened then ?
Don't know, but it could. It happened to my little boy, but I was close by and I screamed, I still remember the sound of it, and it stopped him.
I was guilty, bottle on the floor and a toddler !

Offline sadie

Re: Why did Mark Warner offer a baby listening service
« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2013, 12:30:47 AM »
Don't know, but it could. It happened to my little boy, but I was close by and I screamed, I still remember the sound of it, and it stopped him.
I was guilty, bottle on the floor and a toddler !

Yeah, right.

icabodcrane

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Re: Why did Mark Warner offer a baby listening service
« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2013, 07:24:17 AM »
This is a silly thread

We all know that,  in truth,  our babes are our own responsibility

'Listening services'   my arse

We took care our  kids ourselves when they were little  ...  like most everyone else does

Please  ...   let's not pretend that the McCann's    'childcare'  regime was ,  somehow  'normal'

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why did Mark Warner offer a baby listening service
« Reply #29 on: July 17, 2013, 07:35:17 AM »
This is a silly thread

We all know that,  in truth,  our babes are our own responsibility

'Listening services'   my ar..

We took care our  kids ourselves when they were little  ...  like most everyone else does

Please  ...   let's not pretend that the McCann's    'childcare'  regime was ,  somehow  'normal'

the fact that MW promoted babylistening on it's website...the fact that british families have been doing this for the past 50/60 years shows it is normal. Not only normal.... but as I have never heard of an adverse incident over the past 50 years, apart from the McCanns, relatively safe.