What Happened Between 18:00 & 20:00 On the 3rd With The Tapas 7

[AnneGuedes]

Anne, why are you so obsessed with Benzodiazepines, a medication used to treat anxiety, and how it was administered? in your words "put in the milk they used to drink at story time".
So you are accusing the McCann's of drugging their children! That is libel.

Immediately dramatic, accusation und so weiter ! I'm prone to imagine... it isn't forbidden to imagine.

[Rachel Granada]

Done what exactly ?

In those 4.5 hours where the Mccanns under scrutiny all the time ?

Were they under scrutiny afterwards 24 hours a day, i.e. under surveillance ?

Highly unlikely, as the PJ were searching for an abducted child, until they found no evidence of that, and the UK police suggested the PJ investigate the parents.

Madeleine was last seen at 5.30 - the alarm was raised at 10pm.  So we are being asked to believe that something happened then and the McCanns covered it up and hid her remains.  In a foreign country without access to a car.  And went to dinner behaving normally.

I don't buy that.  Whatever you believe is your prerogative.

[stephen25000]

Madeleine was last seen at 5.30 - the alarm was raised at 10pm.  So we are being asked to believe that something happened then and the McCanns covered it up and hid her remains.  In a foreign country without access to a car.  And went to dinner behaving normally.

I don't buy that.  Whatever you believe is your prerogative.

No you believe in the fictitious abduction for which there is no proof, no forensics, and no trace of Madeleine after 6 years of worldwide publicity.

Nuf said eh ?

[Rachel Granada]

No you believe in the fictitious abduction for which there is no proof, no forensics, and no trace of Madeleine after 6 years of worldwide publicity.

Nuf said eh ?

As I said, whatever you believe is your prerogative and what I believe is mine.

[south of the river]

why would an abductor have to leave forensics ? - If Abductor A entered the flat - had gloves on - opened the window and shutter - picked up a sleeping Maddy and handed out of window to abductor B who then vanished.

This would take minutes and there would be no noticeable  " Forensics " This was a holiday flat - the amount of forensics from a vast amount of people that had been in and out of the flat over the past month from staff to other holiday makers to police dogs etc etc etc

A lack of forensics doesn't really mean anything - There is no  " forensics to say she died in the flat either ??

[Albertini]

How do you know the Mccanns didn't lie ? How do you know they did?

The repeated claims by Gerry McCann in his 2007 "blog" that he and his wife were not suspected of involvement by the Portuguese police in the disappearance were demonstrated as proven lies, as the date evidence of the police interviews in Madeleine now shows.

Kate McCann herself admitted in Madeleine that they had lied (page 206) to the media about the police investigation.

Do you believe potential suspects always tell the truth ? Do you?

No.

[Mr Moderator]

The repeated claims by Gerry McCann in his 2007 "blog" that he and his wife were not suspected of involvement by the Portuguese police in the disappearance were demonstrated as proven lies, as the date evidence of the police interviews in Madeleine now shows.

Kate McCann herself admitted in Madeleine that they had lied (page 206) to the media about the police investigation.


No.

Everyone lies to one extent or another.  Parents tell lies or porkies to their children regularly and pass them off as 'white lies'.   Anyone who claims that they have never lied is kidding themself.

[Albertini]

Everyone lies to one extent or another.  Parents tell lies or porkies to their children regularly and pass them off as 'white lies'.   Anyone who claims that they have never lied is kidding themself.

So you think it is right that she and her husband will be the judges as to when to lie or tell the truth in events surrounding the investigation?

What else have they lied about?

What does this do to their credibility as witnesses to being the last people to see Madeleine alive and well?

Hasn't the evidence on Gerry's blogs and Kate's admission in the book meant they as a couple of failed the veracity test?

[sadie]

So you think it is right that she and her husband will be the judges as to when to lie or tell the truth in events surrounding the investigation?

What else have they lied about?

What does this do to their credibility as witnesses to being the last people to see Madeleine alive and well?

Hasn't the evidence on Gerry's blogs and Kate's admission in the book meant they as a couple of failed the veracity test?

Page 205.

Suggest you read that first.  It gives very good and  clear reasons for a VERY small porkie.   

You are making mountains out of a molehill, Albertini.  Not even a molehill really when read in context

But that is par for the course, isn't it?

[DCI]

The repeated claims by Gerry McCann in his 2007 "blog" that he and his wife were not suspected of involvement by the Portuguese police in the disappearance were demonstrated as proven lies, as the date evidence of the police interviews in Madeleine now shows.

Kate McCann herself admitted in Madeleine that they had lied (page 206) to the media about the police investigation.

No.

Everyone lies to one extent or another.  Parents tell lies or porkies to their children regularly and pass them off as 'white lies'.   Anyone who claims that they have never lied is kidding themself.

Lets have it in the correct context though. Kate admits they lied, and why!  >@@(*&)

We'd never lied about anything, not to the police, not to the media. not to anyone else. But now we found ourselves in one of those tricky situations where we just didn't seem to have a choice.

As it hapenned, Gerry had a mild stomach upset which we used as an excuse to postpone the trip. We didn't feel good about this at all, but even if the judicial secrecy law had not prevented us from giving the main reason, can you imagine what would have hapenned if we'd announced to the journalists heading for Huelva that the police were coming to do some forensic work on our villa?

We were not to know our excuse would prove to be no more than a tempory holding measure. If we had, we wouldn't have bothered trying to keep the scurrilous headlines at bay. Page 205/206

[stephen25000]

Lets have it in the correct context though. Kate admits they lied, and why!  >@@(*&)

We'd never lied about anything, not to the police, not to the media. not to anyone else. But now we found ourselves in one of those tricky situations where we just didn't seem to have a choice.

As it hapenned, Gerry had a mild stomach upset which we used as an excuse to postpone the trip. We didn't feel good about this at all, but even if the judicial secrecy law had not prevented us from giving the main reason, can you imagine what would have hapenned if we'd announced to the journalists heading for Huelva that the police were coming to do some forensic work on our villa?

We were not to know our excuse would prove to be no more than a tempory holding measure. If we had, we wouldn't have bothered trying to keep the scurrilous headlines at bay. Page 205/206

Let's not forget the lies and exaggerations in the book

[Albertini]

Let's not forget the lies and exaggerations in the book

Yep, the bottom line is they are self confessed and proven liars.

Irrespective of their reasons for lying they are saying they felt it right to lie.

What else do they or did they feel it was justifiable for them to lie?

Given the fact they are liars that should allow us to treat all their other statements with the same caveat.

[DCI]

Let's not forget the lies and exaggerations in the book

You mean like Amaral's book 

[Albertini]

Lets have it in the correct context though. Kate admits they lied, and why!  >@@(*&)

We'd never lied about anything, not to the police, not to the media. not to anyone else. But now we found ourselves in one of those tricky situations where we just didn't seem to have a choice.

As it hapenned, Gerry had a mild stomach upset which we used as an excuse to postpone the trip. We didn't feel good about this at all, but even if the judicial secrecy law had not prevented us from giving the main reason, can you imagine what would have hapenned if we'd announced to the journalists heading for Huelva that the police were coming to do some forensic work on our villa?

We were not to know our excuse would prove to be no more than a tempory holding measure. If we had, we wouldn't have bothered trying to keep the scurrilous headlines at bay. Page 205/206

Hang on a moment, you said "who said they did lie" in the first place, which i replied to.

Make your mind up!

[Albertini]

Page 205.

Suggest you read that first.  It gives very good and  clear reasons for a VERY small porkie.   

You are making mountains out of a molehill, Albertini.  Not even a molehill really when read in context

But that is par for the course, isn't it?

Mountains out a of a molehill? When the last people (and suspects) to see the child alive and well, whose statements underpin the abduction theory admit to lying and are shown to be lying?

That's a mountain out of a molehill to you is it?

 

ok!